Maciek_Leopolis: @Higuel/ "Absolutely no point in taking it unlit!"Except for 'enlighting' that whole Putin's propaganda... :(
Unlit "olimpic flame" sent into space for h(uge) load of money - isn't it a beautiful image of that post-Soviet phenomenon?
> Your dreams are beautiful
What are you talking about? What does that had to do with the fact (!) that GULag system ceased to exist in 1960?
> Greenpeace guys are supposed to be pirates
If you act like a pirate, be sure that you'll be treated like a pirate.
> so 'dyadya' Putin loves all the mankind
Of course not, he is Dr.Evil who's only life goal is to exterminate The Freedom and The Good People.It seems like you've been watching comics too much.
> Nah zdarovye!
Did you add the 'h' letter on purpose? You're trying to be rude, aren't you? That's nice, because you've ran out of arguments.
> you really believe in what you write
I don't need to believe in it, because I know that it's a fact.Do you believe that the sky is blue or do you know it? It's the same with statistic values.
Leave them to yourself, my dear "believer".
Artpt: @ 1drey, I read your link and saw the Pussy Riot documentary....she is committed and they cannot kill her for fear of martyrdom...keep the posts coming with updates...there are many causes and few interested.
@Artpt> and they cannot kill her for fear of martyrdom
No one wants to kill her. Don't get so hyped over this exaggerated deal.
> keep the posts coming with updates...there are many causes and few interested.
Yeah, along with the posts about Guantanamo Bay detention camp.
@1drey> glad to hear a voice of human
You mean that one who doesn't agree with your view on Pussy Riot is not human?
> Unfortunately they can do with this woman whatever they want. Tortures and humiliation - usual practice of Russian police and penitentiary system.
No, they can't. She's not in a CIA black site (where tortures and humiliation is a usual practice), she's just in a regular penal colony (where people just serves their sentences).
> Should I remind about absurd accusation of Arctic 30 crew in piracy?
If you would make an effort to examine anything on the theme, you wouldn't call it "absurd accusation", because they really acted like pirates.
1drey: DPR, don't you want to bring on the front page a photograph of Nadezhda Tolokonnikova, a member of Pussy Riot group - she is missing somewhere in the guts of re-born Gulag, hiding from the relatives, her advocates and public. Against all laws - even damned Putin's laws!
Did DPR got money from Putin's PR agency?
1. No one re-birthed GULag. It's a lie.2. No one "hides" her. She serves a sentence for the crime she executed. There are countless news about her and dozens of interviews with her.3. There is no such thing as "Putin's law", but there is Russian Federation law.4. It's not "against all laws". She violated the Russian law - article 213 of Russian Federation Penal Code: hooliganism motivated by religious hatred and with the view of fomenting of religious strife.
Did 1drey got totally brainwashed by Nahalniy?
D1N0: It's about the flame, not the torch. Idiots!
Do you really think that Russian, Australian and American Olympic games organizers don't know that "It's about the flame, not the torch"?
It's not a magical ritual, which can't be muddled in a slightest detail.It's just a symbolic act for the flame (and the flame's "container" naturally) to travel the country. Sym-bo-lic.
@Maciek_Leopolis> The problem is, that neither Atlanta nor Sydney olympic games hosts were not running Gulag system.
GULag system ceased to exist in 1960. And FYI there are more prisoners in modern American penal system now then it ever was in GULag.
Atlanta Olympic games host exterminated millions of Indian people, and killed and enslaved millions of black African people. Not to mention countless acts of external aggression (Libya and Siria are the latest).
And regarding Sydney Olympic games host. Don't you even know how Australia was colonized? It's the only continent on Earth, that served as a giant prison. GULag is a child play in comparison to the "AUSTRALIALag".
Marcin 3M: Hopefully somewhere in space there's an Zippo lighter...
There's no need for the Zippo, because the flame will not be lit in space.
Higuel: The whole point of the torch is to carry THE flame! Absolutely no point in taking it unlit! With all this work and expense, the least they could do was devise some kind of safety transparent cover to encapsule it and have it working! Otherwise is simply pointless!
> devise some kind of safety transparent cover to encapsule it and have it working
And where do you suppose to get oxygen for it to burn? Especially in the open space.
It's a symbolic flight of the Olympic torch, nothing more. [Symbolic] is the key word here.
Could you please specify - who the "idiots" are?
And what about two previous Olympic flame space trips in 1996 and 2000? Are those "Putin's propaganda" too?
Johnsonj: Fast apeture at f 2.2. Koooooool
> thus the crop factor is 4
:)) yeah, it changes everything - HUGE difference!!! f/2.2 at crop factor 4 is enormously faster, than f/2.2 at crop factor 4.3!!!
The fact is it's nowhere near crop factor 1, so it can't be as fast as full frame f/2.2
> Now you can recalculate everything
$100 and I'll recalculate it for you.
Incorrect.f/2.2 regards only to correlation between physical dimensions of focal length and diaphragm. Lumia 1020's focal length is 26.0 mm, therefore 35 mm equivalent focal length of 1020 will be = 26 x crop factor = 26 x 4.3 = 111.8 mmPhysical dimension of f/2.2 diaphragm for FF 111.8 mm will be 50 mm. Can you imagine 50 mm diaphragm on a smartphone? :)But since it's only f/9.46, then FF 111.8 mm will have 11.8 mm diaphragm size.Now, back to Lumia: f/2.2 at 26mm focal length (crop factor 4.3!) will have the same 11.8 mm diaphragm size.QED :)
Sensor 1/1.7" ==> Crop factor ≈4,3Which means f/2.2 x 4.3 = f/9.46 in 35 mm equivalentNot so fast, I guess :)