bernardf12: Sony should do one (M) ILC range and do it properly. Look at Olympus and Fuji. That will allow them to create a decent lens line-up as well. No use having multiple half-baked systems. Sony please do a FF 50mm 1.4 for $500 like the others. Then do a 85mm 1.4 as well and get Sigma to build it, not Zeiss. We are not all millionaires.
minolta 85 1.4.... Hard to get though.
xpanded: "even in lighting as low as EV-2 where other cameras struggle"
Benchmark is -4 EV now so why on Earth does Sony write this?
Too little, too late.
Just get an a77 II for 900 bucks and all displays and screens will be sweet.
keepreal: For a while I was considering a Sony but the ultra wide angle lenses I would have wanted are awful. What is the point of a superb camera such as the A7 II with such a mediocre and limited choice of lenses, also less ambitious models? I know you can use an adapter for quality lenses such as from Leica, but then you lose the automation.
I have the Sigma 12-24mm in A mount and it will work fully automated on an a7 with the adapter.It has its silent AF motor, it is well built and it is a good optic.Between 16 and 20mm it is very good, and all distortions can be easily corrected in Lightroom.I normally stay a way from sigma lenses, but this one is good.
bogdescu: quick poll: is someone actually buying into this system??
If you go to China (that pretty big place with a lot of people) that is the largest market for Sony cameras and yes you see plenty of them.Also in Italy, Korea and Japan.
nafik: As ridiculous as Hummer, Leica, MB, BMW etc. this is just another toy for those of us who do not know what to do with their money (taking photography course or giving to charity could be a better option). It most likely will produce excellent images that will be looked at on smartphones for a one minute before another text shows up.
Hummer may well be ridiculous, but Leica, MB and BMW are not, neither this camera.
RichRMA: Digital Sony Photography Review.
It used to be Digital Canon Photography Review for so many years.Now canon does not do much, so.... there you have it.
I hope they will make this FW available also for my walkman.And what about all those betamax users still complaining, will they get something as well?
Gionni Dorelli: Everybody happy now?
Esstee, that was a cappuccino that you ordered this morning.wake up!
steelhead3: My A900 is perfectly content with craw (11+7) and lossless compressed full raw.
Mine too. But I think the E series cameras have a different kind of compression.
Everybody happy now?
RichRMA: Doesn't matter what camera. 400k ISO looks awful. They are not there yet.
But where do you guys take your photos for needing 100k + iso?Inside a toilet with the cover lowered?tell me about it.
lorenzo de medici: Personal reaction: 1. The high end cameras from Sony, Canon, and Nikon are all superb picture taking machines. The only surprise there is how quickly Sony matched and then surpassed the companies with a much longer history in photography. Teaming up with Zeiss for lenses was a great move.2. File size. If you spend a couple of hours shooting 5 fps bursts, you go home with thousands of images to sort through. Then file size and battery life become issues. The D750 wins here. Sony trails the pack. The little battery is a deal breaker for me.3. What feels good to you. My D810 feels good in my hands and allows me to forget about the camera, think about the image. The best shots are taken in your mind's eye first, then hopefully captured as much as possible by the camera. One's own ability to use the camera successfully allows a great camera to capture your unique vision. That isn't included in the box that the camera comes in.
Ergonomic is stuff for amateurs and people that have time to waste talking about.Pros attach a lens to a hammer and slam the picture they want.
itsmeavi: It took just 7 years from being No 1/2 for Nokia/Motorola to be out of market and Apple/Samsung to be No 1/2.
5 years from today just replace Nokia/Motorola with Canon/Nikon and Apple/Samsung with Sony/Olympus in my statement above and it will still hold true ;)
Wake up CaNikon before its too late!
To GaryJP.It is not like Sony stopped making tapes, recording media or memory cards, they just moved to the next steps.
J A C S: Imagine how old fashioned and obsolete this camera will look 2-3 years from now...
I think once they consolidate a bit with the 7 series they will slow down on innovation as any other manufacturer does once they get at the level they want.Look at the A mount, they just introduce few bodies. Maybe one per year. The a99 is still a great camera, yet it did not make the a900 much obsolete, but it is a bit long in the tooth since Nikon D810 and once the 5ds will be out.
bovverwonder: I just sold my Canon FF the same day the Sony A7R II was announced. I was sold that quick! I also shoot with Oly EM5 mk2 and Fuji XT1 (which I both love!) so I'm familiar with mirrorless. I was a Canon fanboy (heavily invested) and so are millions of shooters but I saw the light and had to get out of my comfort zone. Going to sell the remaining of all my L lenses/speedlights to fund the A7RII and a few Sony lenses. Bye bye Canon, hello mirrorless - it's the future!
I do not get those guys taking for granted the canon lenses being better than the Sony or ZA. I was using only canon 1ds series bodies, 5D and mostly L Lenses, when the a900 came out 6 years ago I switched to Sony, bought few Zeiss and a couple of sony lenses and never looked back. Sony and ZA lenses are as good as equivalent Canon and on the ZA case, are better most of the times.
JapanAntoine: Quite impressive specs, indeed! And very appealing.Now, before I jump and sell my house to buy this beast, I'd like to check what Fuji has up their sleeve for the X-Pro2 (due this fall)...
I was always pretty annoyed by Sony's unique habit of releasing different models in Japan and overseas, meaning I can't have both JP and EN menus on the camera and unfortunately they seem to continue doing this (not that it would be a complete deal breaker though).
And I must admit I love the controls on the Fuji: this idea of having aperture and shutter speed in direct access through dedicated dials and rings is just a blessing.And the Fujinon glass, mama mia, versus Zeiss... tough choice!!!
I'll have to rent both for a week and figure out on the field.
You buy the cameras from HK or South Korea and get them shipped to Japan. I think all you have to pay is VAT tax at import.In Tokyo at Sony showroom in Ginza or at Yodobashi, they sell overseas models but they are priced 40/50% higher than japanese models.
En Trance: And my question still remains. Is a serious photographer interested in using a camera that has a primary design objective of fitting into his wife's fanny pack??? I love the technology and specs, but I wonder about the design compromises resulting from the miniature packaging.
This guy probably drive a pick up truck.
xsamie: For me, this camera is just mocking Canon and Nikon. It's telling them D810, D5s.. Is that all you got?
5 axis and 4k internal? It is adding insult to injury. And Sony is not even trying... Just wait to see the A7s2, their bestseller.
It reminds me of that time I raced against my daughter. She came in second but she was not even trying. I won, but only on the outside, I was broken. Of course I said that I was not trying either. lol
There comes a time when the student surpases the master. That moment has come. RIP Canon, RIP Nikon. Trouble times are ahead.
True... then you look at the lens line up and you will probably find more lenses than you need and more than anything, more lenses that you could afford to buy.
Gionni Dorelli: Once I have sold my phase one system few years ago, I never looked back.I just rent them sometimes when I really have to.When do I really have to?When we need to print the photos for cosmetics and jewelry Ads for large displays to be used in luxury shopping malls and in the rare eventual case that an AD push for using one. Or for shooting "groupage" with many models.
The big draw back of these systems are that even with the highest Mp resolution, because of their slowness in Af and operation, they will give you way less keepers and most of the images will not be not tack sharp if the models are moving even so slightly. Negating most of the advantages of the high MP count.No mentioning that Schneider lenses or the Fujinon design of the Hasselblads lenses deliver a very nervous and aseptic look and bokhe.
Nachos is right and explained it well.My way of solving these problems is by not using MF cameras most of the times.A Nikon d800, Sony A7r and the new coming canon 5d are plenty for 90/95% of the jobs. Even the older 21/24mp DSLR are plenty as long as you use very good lenses.
RPJG.You did not get the point. "If the models are moving even so slightly" especially in portraits, it happens that the intended focusing point get out of the sweet spot of DOF which in MF is very narrow. these cameras do have enough shutter lag and slow AF that they will often be OOF.Even at F22 on a close up portrait the sweet spot of the DOF is within a 2cm range. if the model tilt her head forward her eye, or what ever part of her face you wanted in focus, will not be tac sharp. With DSLR you incur less on this problems because you have a little more DOF (although you have more diffraction) but more than anything the shutter has less lag and AF can catch up fasterEven a slight OOF will negate few tenth of megapixels advantage.Not mentioning that these cameras are slow and you miss a lot of good moments by a fraction of a sec, just because the camera is not ready to click the next photomoderns studio flashes can reload way faster that these MF cameras can take the next shot.