J A C S: Imagine how old fashioned and obsolete this camera will look 2-3 years from now...
I think once they consolidate a bit with the 7 series they will slow down on innovation as any other manufacturer does once they get at the level they want.Look at the A mount, they just introduce few bodies. Maybe one per year. The a99 is still a great camera, yet it did not make the a900 much obsolete, but it is a bit long in the tooth since Nikon D810 and once the 5ds will be out.
bovverwonder: I just sold my Canon FF the same day the Sony A7R II was announced. I was sold that quick! I also shoot with Oly EM5 mk2 and Fuji XT1 (which I both love!) so I'm familiar with mirrorless. I was a Canon fanboy (heavily invested) and so are millions of shooters but I saw the light and had to get out of my comfort zone. Going to sell the remaining of all my L lenses/speedlights to fund the A7RII and a few Sony lenses. Bye bye Canon, hello mirrorless - it's the future!
I do not get those guys taking for granted the canon lenses being better than the Sony or ZA. I was using only canon 1ds series bodies, 5D and mostly L Lenses, when the a900 came out 6 years ago I switched to Sony, bought few Zeiss and a couple of sony lenses and never looked back. Sony and ZA lenses are as good as equivalent Canon and on the ZA case, are better most of the times.
JapanAntoine: Quite impressive specs, indeed! And very appealing.Now, before I jump and sell my house to buy this beast, I'd like to check what Fuji has up their sleeve for the X-Pro2 (due this fall)...
I was always pretty annoyed by Sony's unique habit of releasing different models in Japan and overseas, meaning I can't have both JP and EN menus on the camera and unfortunately they seem to continue doing this (not that it would be a complete deal breaker though).
And I must admit I love the controls on the Fuji: this idea of having aperture and shutter speed in direct access through dedicated dials and rings is just a blessing.And the Fujinon glass, mama mia, versus Zeiss... tough choice!!!
I'll have to rent both for a week and figure out on the field.
You buy the cameras from HK or South Korea and get them shipped to Japan. I think all you have to pay is VAT tax at import.In Tokyo at Sony showroom in Ginza or at Yodobashi, they sell overseas models but they are priced 40/50% higher than japanese models.
En Trance: And my question still remains. Is a serious photographer interested in using a camera that has a primary design objective of fitting into his wife's fanny pack??? I love the technology and specs, but I wonder about the design compromises resulting from the miniature packaging.
This guy probably drive a pick up truck.
xsamie: For me, this camera is just mocking Canon and Nikon. It's telling them D810, D5s.. Is that all you got?
5 axis and 4k internal? It is adding insult to injury. And Sony is not even trying... Just wait to see the A7s2, their bestseller.
It reminds me of that time I raced against my daughter. She came in second but she was not even trying. I won, but only on the outside, I was broken. Of course I said that I was not trying either. lol
There comes a time when the student surpases the master. That moment has come. RIP Canon, RIP Nikon. Trouble times are ahead.
True... then you look at the lens line up and you will probably find more lenses than you need and more than anything, more lenses that you could afford to buy.
Gionni Dorelli: Once I have sold my phase one system few years ago, I never looked back.I just rent them sometimes when I really have to.When do I really have to?When we need to print the photos for cosmetics and jewelry Ads for large displays to be used in luxury shopping malls and in the rare eventual case that an AD push for using one. Or for shooting "groupage" with many models.
The big draw back of these systems are that even with the highest Mp resolution, because of their slowness in Af and operation, they will give you way less keepers and most of the images will not be not tack sharp if the models are moving even so slightly. Negating most of the advantages of the high MP count.No mentioning that Schneider lenses or the Fujinon design of the Hasselblads lenses deliver a very nervous and aseptic look and bokhe.
Nachos is right and explained it well.My way of solving these problems is by not using MF cameras most of the times.A Nikon d800, Sony A7r and the new coming canon 5d are plenty for 90/95% of the jobs. Even the older 21/24mp DSLR are plenty as long as you use very good lenses.
RPJG.You did not get the point. "If the models are moving even so slightly" especially in portraits, it happens that the intended focusing point get out of the sweet spot of DOF which in MF is very narrow. these cameras do have enough shutter lag and slow AF that they will often be OOF.Even at F22 on a close up portrait the sweet spot of the DOF is within a 2cm range. if the model tilt her head forward her eye, or what ever part of her face you wanted in focus, will not be tac sharp. With DSLR you incur less on this problems because you have a little more DOF (although you have more diffraction) but more than anything the shutter has less lag and AF can catch up fasterEven a slight OOF will negate few tenth of megapixels advantage.Not mentioning that these cameras are slow and you miss a lot of good moments by a fraction of a sec, just because the camera is not ready to click the next photomoderns studio flashes can reload way faster that these MF cameras can take the next shot.
Andycaps: Quote: ... "Phase One Medium Format Advantages - Medium format sensors are 2.5 times larger than those found in high-end 35mm DSLRs"
Considering you have to pay a price comparable with a BMW 5 series, with extras - you would expect there to be a difference, but come guys - its it about time the brand upgraded from a hobby build price point, the company will be in a better position to manufacture more units and bring the price down, unless its a strategic strategic plan to remain in cloud 9...
When I bought my first phase one system around 2007 and went to a dealer, the whole process reminded me of when I went to by a BMW, although it was only a Coupe 3 series, it costed a little more than what I paid for the Phase system. Yet I felt the BMW was worth every penny and the process of having to go trough a dealer necessary, not so for the a camera that was 2x the price what it is worth and could have been bought at a regular camera shop.The dealer thing from Phase was totally unnecessary, and they try to sell you plenty of stuff, classes and subscriptions you do not need, not mentioning they will stalk you for the years to come.
OBI656: Respect to PhaseOne however price is still 2.5x overpriced.
Agree.maybe 2.5 is a little too much as a statement, but 4 grands should have been plenty for this puppy.You can get the touch screen display on a 300 dollars smartphone....Even the new AF of this one will probably compare to a 6 years old DSLR with was possible to buy for 3 grands back then.A camera with these specs would have made more sense 4/5 years ago.
This new phase one camera should have been introduced at least 4 years ago. then it would have been worth buying.The 36 mp Nikon and Sony mirorles still run around in circles in term of AF, shutter lag, and speed of operation even if compared to this new Phase system and will almost always give you a much higher ratio of keepers in term of AF precision than these MF bodies. unless you are shooting a very static model.All the 16 bit and high res files, are nearly useless once the pictures go trough 10/20 hours of post production work on order to meet all the endless requests from the art directors.that is the reason why 90% of fashion, cosmetic, luxury items, advertising with people are shot with high end DSLR.the reasons to use these 50k systems are becoming less and less compelling.
Once I have sold my phase one system few years ago, I never looked back.I just rent them sometimes when I really have to.When do I really have to?When we need to print the photos for cosmetics and jewelry Ads for large displays to be used in luxury shopping malls and in the rare eventual case that an AD push for using one. Or for shooting "groupage" with many models.
SnakePlissken: It's a superficial thing, but why are Sony DSLRs so ugly? I had an A700 and it was very smart looking. I think Canon makes the smartest, most ergonomic looking DSLRs, Nikon cameras are also immediately identifiable by their styling and red flash on the grip, Pentax K3 cameras look very elegant and well made too. In contrast, Sony's DLSRs in the last few years look like they have melted in the sun and are just too lumpen.
I am sure they are fine to use of course and for all the bashing that goes on here, as usual, the classic, legendary photographers of yore (other than large format photographers) would die for any of the digital cameras on the market today and I am sure would not care a jot about offset microlenses and the like that seem to consume people on DPReview.
I have the ugliest of the Alpha: the a900, I also had the second ugliest which you also had: the a700.A 58, A77 and a99 fine looking cameras and look better than canon and especially nikon.Pentax has always been the ugliest second to none.of course is all subjective....
George1958: superb camera, its a pity its a Samsung, otherwise I might have considered buying one.
Macrobokeh, Have you ever worked for or with a Korean company?Everything has to be done the Korean way not the German way. Feel sorry for those German engrs., but I know they will go back home very soon, no matter how much they are paid.These companies we mentioned, aspire to perfection and excellence, at least those are their intention, then they cut corners all the way to the end. Something has to give and it will.
I understand you are excited with your cars, after all you saved a few bucks and feels good. I get that.How can you stand the PVC smell in your cars? when they are new, they stinks of PVC for at least one year. European cars use to smell like that in the 80ies but only for few months.
To make a story short, a Sony TV will last longer than an LG or Samsung, same for a Hitachi air conditioner, it will last twice as a Daewoo. Bosch appliance or Samsung appliance?
In general Samsung and other Korean brands customer service is terrible.Not mentioning reliability and durability.Their stuff always last shorter than european and japanese products.Korean motto is: "we can make it in shorter time, better and cheaper".Which of course is not possible, yet something has to give.
It is more interesting for video, because photos on a 1inch 12mp sensor with a non interchangeable zoom, it s for very basic low end work.
high res image samples for the 90mm G Macro
and check out the crazy MTF chart if you haven't
Of course it is just made up, just to make you happy.
El Chubasco: Nice system, certainly impressive. Would be tempted to buy this camera if its interface did not feel like a playstation.
"The company who makes Playstation, Flat screen TV etc..." typical silly comments which goal is to dismiss Sony camera's products without a valid argument. Well there is not valid argument for that, that is why the silly haters can only come up with statements like the above one.Facts are that Sony is delivering very fine products. They are actually been doing just that for long time.
Well... the photographer is pretty.A part for that it seems a nice camera, plenty good for the job and the video report is very well done.
Does this thing tether?
Donnie G: So far, Sony has managed to deliver 3 different cameras from one body and keep the hype alive for their full frame sensors while keeping production costs as low as possible. Seems like a formula for success. If they can come up with a 4th camera from this body, then they might actually make a profit from the camera business this year. Hope it works for them. :)
Donnie is right. Yet camera business is one of the few division Sony is making a profit. Their mirrorless cameras sell very well in Asia and in some countries they have 51% market share of the whole camera business.In any case it is about time they should steal a page from Apple book. One body/chassis shared by different models. For Apple worked beautifully with laptops, tower computers, desktop and phones. If Sony had done the same with their laptop business, instead of having 10+ different chassis, they probably would have made a profit and kept that division. Same would do for TV sets and HI FI.