Just read nerd2's classic comment abour how since f2.8 on m43 is really f5.6, and so apsc with an f5.6 lens is better. I bet he still doesn't get why that is so funny.
Mike FL: "plus this plus this year's must-have feature: 4K video.".
"must-have feature". REALLY?
I'd prefer a camera body to have IS built in. Lenses without IS (and most don't have it) would still be stabilized. Very few top selling camera have it though. I'd prefer to have the 4K video option even more. Some people wrongly think watching on 4K displays is the only use/benefit of 4K video.
Paul Verhoeven: "4K Pre-burst records 60 images right before or after release of the shutter."
If you are slow to hit that shutter button, this camera has you covered. It saves the previous 2 seconds of 8MP images in the buffer when you hit the shutter along with 2 seconds more after. As long as you have the camera aimed it is near impossible to miss the shot.
agnost: The NX1 makes me wish I could afford a third camera system. (Now that's really first-world problem!) The other camera makers would be wise to keep an eye on the rearview mirror as Samsung's lens selection improves -- this is not a complacent company willing to settle for second-best.
Looking at their balance sheets, no Japanese company wants to get in a battle Samsung. They are still hurting from the TV and smartphone sector losses. Samsung only 2 worries are China and Apple.
Dang. Go Samsung. I bet a lot of Japanese companies are feeling pretty bad about now.I can't wait to see the Youtube videos with the old Spanish guy laughing and the captions about how their new cameras offer 5-6 FPS and 1080p video.
This camera may be a total FAIL. It depends how good the 1 inch sensor is. If it is similar to current 1 inch sensors, then the F/5.6 zoom will render the video near useless indoors (at least towards the long end).The 12 MP jpeg only stills combined with an F/5.6 might yield lower quality images than most P&S cameras with F/2 lenses.
So the camera becomes a limited use camera/camcorder for $2500.
Any like someone else mentioned, what does this camera use to track moving subjects? Please don't say CDAF only. :)
AJC Photography: How many people (especially news gathering for (mostly) internet use) ... actually NEED 4K ??? There are a lot of the usual MORONS out here this evening (GMT).
Fanboys and film-maker / shallow DOF / mega enthusiast types with LOTS OF TIME ON THEIR HANDS (both in the field and thereafter at the editing stages) ... This device is CLEARLY not for you !!!
4K let anyone pan and zoom within a frame. It lets you crop 2x and still maintain 1080p as well as add extra stabilization for extra shaky video (like if the person is running). You could ask who needs greater than 480p with your thinking.
DPR, honestly, for " people and organizations that have regular need to produce multimedia content, often quickly and with a minimum of gear. Think of a reporter who must rush to the scene of a news story and take still photos for a story on a web site, capture video interviews with eyewitnesses, and live tweet images — all while on the move and on a deadline."
What does the Canon offer to those individuals that is a 'must have' and that the AX100 or FZ1000 (with a variable ND filter) are lacking...and that is worth the extra $1500 in the case of the FZ1000? I mean 3 FZ1000s all with more useful lenses sounds like a better deal to me.
LEGACYMOMENTSPHOTOGRAPHY: 7 had it? already they pulling our chains?
Well considering it is an FZ1000 with the longer wider aperture lens removed and replaced with a cheaper one and the price tag tripled, I can see people saying they had it. :)
AJC Photography: Looks like a BRILLIANT all-round camera/video device to give to people that are NOT mega enthusiasts and 'film-makers' ... Many/most of the very negative comments about 1" sensor size and layout and 'limited' zoom lens / lack of power zoom (and more) = all equally GREAT things to put in the hands of a TV reporter / sports journalist / other multi media people that simply need to put out very very good quality (average) 720P / 1080P or better video ... QUICKLY !!The fact that it will provide stills or stills from video frames too = a 'no brainer' for a smaller news / sports gathering outfit. Think how discreet it would be in a war zone or to sneak into many environments where something way more massive with all sorts of 'OTT' add-on Meccano look junk = OVERKILL.
I'm convinced it will sell VERY well in fact.
Think of where GoPro has made a certain sector almost it's own. Canon has also cleverly used the same 60/70D, 5DMkII/III and 6D type battery for this device too. Makes sense.
So why would ANYONE AJC mentioned pay 3x more for a camera with a less useful lens over an FZ1000 which has that 1 inch sensor and 5 axis IBIS? I bet $2400 for camera that's kind of been available for the past year at $800-900 is OVERKILL.
chbde: To those comparing XC10 and FZ1000: When using the 4K-mode on the Panasonic, only a crop fraction of the sensor is used, resulting in an equivalent focal length of 37-592mm instead of 24-400mm for stills and 1080p video. Also, because the effective sensor area is halved, this may potentially result in a worse low-light performance than the Canon (dependent on the sensor performance of course).
I am pretty sure both are being marketed as hybrid cameras that take RAW stills.
Nukunukoo: Despite it having the makings of a great Wedding Event camera (we are still using Atmos-backed RX10s) I'm still on the lookout for the mythical RX20 (RX10 Mark II?) before deciding which to go when I go 4K (the low light performance of the FZ1000 was really a problem to us, pity).
Besides, at $2500, I'd rather get another Full Frame...
The most recent rumor says Sony tried to put 4K on an APS body but it crashes constantly and over heated. For internal 4K recording Sony will either need a larger body with something to cool the sensor, or a new sensor that is more energy efficient. Either way, it looks like it will be a long wait since they have to go back to the drawing board.
FZ1000 is closer to 42%, but yes, both are a "fraction". Does the Canon use a Sony sensor, or will it be crippled for DR at ISO100?
theprehistorian: Looks alright to me for what it is. It's a bit of a dog's breakfast at the wide end, and full telephoto lacks acuity, but you can't have everything! Looks a decent enough lens if you really don't know what perspectives you'll need. It's not really my bag of fish, but critical image quality in the portraits is excellent. I'm just not sure superzooms are really in the spirit of the A7 cameras though.
So 24-240 is a 'better' range than '28-300'?I really hope you are not foolish to say it is 'better' for everyone.
Oooh! "5-axis image stabilization (albeit apparently in HD video capture mode only)"You can't get THAT on a sub $1000 hybrid still/video camera!
Oh wait...never mind.
And I am sure it comes with OSPDAF or DFD to keep subjects in focus, right?
Obviously the FZ1000 4k is better than no 4K at all. I always feel sorry for people who wait for products for which there are not even credible rumors.
So this is an FZ1000 with a shorter slower lens, a lower resolution sensor, and most likely lower DR, all for about 3x the price! Awesome!
A "fraction" of the sensor? Did you know that the XC10 also only uses a "fraction" of the sensor for video?Also, yes the FZ1000 is stop faster at the long end, but its long end is 592 vs. a paltry 273mm.
justmeMN: "The Nikon D5500 is as close to a 'pocketable' DSLR as you'll find. While it's a bit larger than the Canon EOS Rebel SL1 (100D), you can slip the D5500 into a small bag if you're using a compact lens." -DPR
Neither a D5500/SL1 nor a mirrorless camera will fit in my jeans pocket, so they are equally convenient/inconvenient. In both cases, you are using a small camera bag.
Dude quit wearing those 'skinny jeans '. GM1 + kit zoom or several fast pancake primes fit in my 'normal jeans pocket.
tkbslc: Since I am sure someone will say it is too expensive, how much is a high-grade 21mm f1.9 for FF?
Talk about a troll, JACS ( his new id) thinks 21mm and 24mm are the same. LOL!!