brownie314: Did Nikon pee of Sony? Why didn't they have this sensor in the V3?
If you had ever experienced the terrific focusing speed of the Nikons you'd understand.
I am glad that this is a genuine upgrade and not mostly a fix for an unacknowledged problem as was the D610.
Beckler8: This is more like a variation than an upgrade model. Video gets a big upgrade but audio, with no hot shoe and no mic input gets a huge downgrade. (Don't bother mentioning external recorders.) As the review points out, some will like the lens variation. Others, like me, would much prefer more/longer zoom range at the expense of lens speed. Not everyone wants maximum low-light performance at the expense of being able to do nothing zoom-wise...yes, 2.9x zoom is essentially nothing, esp. in video where presumably none of the smart digital zoom is usable. I'd gladly trade the flash for the hot shoe too! There must be a way to have both though. Anyway on a camera of this stature then, there needs to be 2 (or more) versions, catering to different preferences.
Th RX10 isn't equivalent - too big. I love the fast lens. The EVF is brilliant. Losing the hot shoe makes this a non-starter for me. Sony giveth and Sony taketh away.
dlkeller: I didn't realize these things were using power zoom,. My experience with this on other cameras has been very bad compared to manual zoom. What is the general feeling concerning this?
You're right, the power zoom is not that great. The zoom is hard to use with precision. I prefer Sony's original kit zoom.
DVT80111: EVF downgraded from 2.36M to 1.44M.No new sensor technology for low light.
Boy, talking about customer satisfaction. Any NEX-6 owners out there should be very happy that your camera has not been obsoleted yet.
I guess we all want something different. I'm not happy about the lower res EVF, but I've already place my pre-order to B&H. The faster AF and NEX-7 quality images are more important. Anyway, I've shot both the NEX-6 and 7. If you down res the images from 24MP to 16 the ISO performance is equivalent.
Gerard Hoffnung: I guess I am in a minority in that I find that very often, I learn something from a comment that I probably wouldn't have learned otherwise. Discussion in comments sections, particularly on very technical issues will either clarify something for me or drive me to further research on the internet. I read at least some of the comments on any article I read and find it easy to skip the nonsense and focus on the good comments. On more than one occasion, some very funny comments have been posted that give me a belly laugh that just makes my day. I'm OK with comment sections.
For me that's the main reason for reading DPreview comments.
Lee Jay: I suggest you go back and shoot a few very old models as well, such as the D70, 10D, and 5D, so we have some history as well as recent models.
Nice idea. Very time consuming. Just trying to keep up with recent models is tough enough.
rfsIII: And for heaven's sake, please, please, please test a couple of medium-format digital cameras, at least a Phase P65+ and a Hasselblad H4D-200MS so that we can have a benchmark from which to judge the other cameras. I'm sure that some kind soul in Seattle will loan them to you, or at least rent them for a day.
Or if you want to text against the camera with the highest DXO score, try the Nikon D800E. Much higher scores than the medium format cameras.
bobcn: I like the articulated viewfinder. I'm hoping someone will take the next step -- a removable viewfinder that can be worn or attached to glasses. How convenient would it be to be able to wave a small CSC camera around. Hold it high, low or at arms length pointed around a corner. You'd still be able to set up your shot.
You mean like Google Glasses?
AndyW17: Why is the flip-up viewfinder useful? I can see it if you're using a short tripod or a cat up a tree - but otherwise? What am I missing?
I have the tilting EVF for my NEX 5n. Love it. However, you're not supposed to store the camera in a bag with the viewfinder on. That's true for all Sony add on EVFs. Levering the thing could break it. A built in EVF that tilts sounds terrific.
xmeda: All you need is Pentax K5II + DA18-135. Still quite small and easy to carry, while it covers 90% needs.
I used a Pentax K-5 for a couple of years. People definitely responded differently when I used that camera rather than my Sony NEX 5n. The 5n is a funny looking point and shoot and doesn't make people as camera shy as the K-5 did.
cknapp1961: Tried LR about a year ago. As a 51 year old guy who grew up on Kodachrome 25 in the 70's, still develops film up to 4x5, prints up to 16x20 from B&W, started using digital in the late 90s and shoot with a Nikon D700 now, who scanned thousand of old family photos a long time ago, learned to use a DOS DB before learning to use a WP, and cringes every time I hear someone say "folder" when they mean "sub-directory, I found LR unacceptable.
I like knowing where my files physically are, under ONE primary Sub-directory making it easy to backup to a secondary or tertiary drive, sync to Carbonite, or automatically add files to my system screensaver.
I learned 12 years ago to create a sub-directory structure, YYYY MO DAY DESCRIPTIVE WORDS (up to 64 characters), using 2xExplorer (a dual-pane file MGR), ThumbsPlus (a photo browser-linked to external programs such as PS). I learned 12 years ago to save edits simply by adding a "c" (for change) to the file name.
Never lost a file or photo.
And this has what to do with the article?
Thanks. This is very helpful.
I just got mine last week. (I'd made a Kick Starter donation) The strange looking round extension actually makes the plate sit flat on a table, unlike a standard Arca Swiss plate, which causes the camera to tip over onto the lens. The little loop on the end allows me to attach it to my Black Rapid strap. All in all, a useful plate.
danaceb: umm good job Tamron, pick something we already have -sigh-
ummmm how about a fast 35mm(50mm) with AF already?
And pancake size.
brendon1000: This is ridiculous. Samsung has hardly any sales of its mirrorless cameras compared to Sony and yet they have put together a fairly comprehensive lens line up for its mirrorless cameras.
Sony has seen good success with its NEX cameras but it has hardly anything to show at all in its system. Just a few mediocre zoom lenses. The 30mm macro and 50mm f1.8 lens is probably the only two decent lenses in the system. The 24mm Zeiss lens is obviously good but IMO too expensive.
Sony is really missing the whole game by delaying on rolling out some noteworthy lenses.
I've just placed my pre-order with B&H for the NX 200 + the 30mm pancake. That seems like a lightweight and compact combo. Sony's cameras look good but I don't like their lenses.
Got an opportunity to handle but not shoot one. Seems very well made. It is about the same weight as the NEX 5N, and functionally the same size. What's a huge positive for Samsung is that they've put out some good pancake primes.
Sony is making some great camera bodies but, honestly, there isn't a single good NEX lens. Yes, the Zeiss 50mm is a sharp lens but it's too heavy and large for the format. Samsung has been quietly making a usable range of primes that turn the camera into a real contender for street/travel photography. I've seen images from the NX 10 with the 30mm and am impressed. It's reasonably priced, too. With the 16 and 20 primes, the NX 200 seems like a viable choice, if the sensor is up to snuff.
Simon97: Sony's low shadow noise on this sensor has Canon's engineers scratching their heads.
I must admit though, the E-PL3's JPEGs are nothing short of beautiful.
Unfortunately, it does. I work with files from several camera owners. We all shoot theater in low light. This is a similar sensor to that in the Nikon D7000 and Pentax K-5, and it is markedly better than any Canon crop sensor for low light, including the one in the 7D. Jpegs are somewhat worse and raw files are a full stop to a stop and a half worse.