Hope this new camera has properly solved the shutter lens blur issues that affected GX7 (to a lesser degree). Again who do they ask when they say to potential consumers "what do you want in the next GX camera?"
I cannot imagine anyone saying " Well drop the built in flash coz nobody ever uses it!!! and then don't even put one in the box to get people to buy it on top of the £1000 camera price"Really?!?Do they even ask people on future models or are all the designers locked up without contact to the outside world?
£1000 really - enjoy. (the kings got no clothes on!!)
£500 - £600 tops happy to wait 12 to 18 months until price comes down or buy as second user.
Confirmed tight wad, having now finished my therapy to stop me collecting new cameras. Look what else is available for that sort of money.I am sure it is a great camera but at that price it is not for me and it certainly is not a Leica but up for Leica money.
I have a NEX-7 for sale with some gold glitter glued on and a tinsel strap, anyone willing to give me £6500
Look the king is wearing no clothes!?!
Michael She: Almost a winner ... no built in flash is a killer for me.
I have the LX-7, one thing I don't understand is why the buttons on the lens barrel are so easy to move - Panasonic should introduce switches that "lock" in place so they're not bumped to the wrong setting so easily.
Hi jcburke, Agree with all your comments. There is always a trade off somewhere. Regards your LX7 when you have a spare few $ or £ have one of your favourite pictures, pref taken in half decent light, taken with the LX7 printed at A2 size. I reckon you may be pleasantly suprised.RegardsGW
Another Panasonic flashless camera for the consumer market!
HiBit confused as to why there is no IS in this lens. Would it not be easier to shoot with the 18-55mm IS at the 55mm end at f4 and have the ability to drop the shutter speed to a theoretical 1/20th second if needed- rather than the 16-55mm at the 55mm end where even with one stop advantage you would want to remain at 1/80th second or thereabouts?!
I appreciate the 2mm on the wide end and a little more brokeh but the one stop advantage is less of a feature because you can theoretically get more stable shots with the kit lens in lower light conditions.
HiNice to see that some other people think that as well. I made that comment early on and it provoked mixed responses.On an enthusiast camera such as this fill flash can be very useful.
Jusy my two pennyworth but i think it is a mistake by Panasonic to not provide a built in flash.Ok add-ons are more powerful etc but who are these cameras aimed at?
The LX100 - no flash and now the GM5?Basic photo punters do not want to carry a separate flash around with them to a friends house or out in their other pocket. Just want to take a quick snap oh hang on everyone I need to find and then attach the flash - hey where did everyone go?A built in flash is one of the functions that make cameras like the E-M10 and the NEX I mean A6000 lines popular.A built in flash is dam useful. If there is no room on top anymore why not squeeze one on the front like the days of old - software or the camera can remove red-eye.
Personally I would not choose a camera without one, I know that counts for zip but it is a feature that I look for. Currently have D610, X-E2, NEX-6 and E-M10.
Gonna start a bring back the built in flash campaign haha.
Shame there is no room for a built in flash. Whilst I appreciate that they have limited abilities and range they can be very useful for candid stuff. I would have thought the target audience for this camera it would have been included. The Sony NEX range evolved to include flashes. I feel that would have been due to market needs. Even when they had the clip on one it folded down onto the camera quite neatly. When I had a NEX-5N the flash stayed on pretty much all the time and I soon purchased a NEX-6.
Liking most of the other stuff, cameras are certainly coming on at a fast pace. This sort of camera would have been a 'wish list' three or even less years ago.
sakahn: I would have bought it, if only it had a built-in flash. Such a shame. Carrying and attaching an important accessory is not convenient.
Additionally, it would be great to have a side-by-side comparison with Sony Rx100 iii and Canon G7 X.
Me too just what he said re the lack of built in flash.
Oh yer - just a minute everyone whilst I rummage in my pocket, find the flash attach the flash - oh you've all gone!!
Are you serious, no way surely not!£130 for three pieces of cut sticky plastic - the world really and truly has gone mad!
I will stick with what it came with and feel compelled to make a decent donation to a worthwhile cause!
Fuji make good quality lenses for the XF range I would like one covering that focal length but at that price out of my reach. Maybe secondhand in a couple of years.
If ever there was evidence that there is a fundamental flaw in the D600 the D610 is it. Released 12 months later with the major change the shutter mechanism!There is no redress for those people that bought the D600 myself included.Shame on Nikon for doing what they could to 'get away with it' - corporate stance deny the problem until that is no longer possible.Offering a cleaning service and or a shutter replacement with one that does the same - flaking particles and residue onto the sensor.
Serious irreparable damage has been done to the company reputation - this D610 replacement seals that fact.Despite the small gesture of an individual like myself people (plural) do vote with there wallets!!Caveat emptor - if there should be a different issue with the D610 do you now have faith that the company will sort it for you?!
Not compact, slow lens -- whyLeica groupies may buy it but there are better cameras for a fraction of the price.
I was expecting something else and something betterits a no from me
justmeMN: Whatever it's other flaws, a snapshot camera that can actually capture moving kids and pets is a Good Thing.
I have been an avid follower of digital cameras and photography since its inception. I really do not get these new Nikon's. I think they have gone too left filed and I just cannot see it being a success.Hope I am wrong but I do not see the target group it is intended for buying into it.My wife is not going to put one of those in her bag over a smaller four thirds camera such as GF2 or EPL2 with a pancake lens.