Francis Carver: Olympus is most likely history, like Saab is. Question is, will there be a buyer coming forward for them, and fast? Investment-wise, it's best to stay away from Oly products until the dust settles one way... or the other. Sanyo projectors are closing down for good, Panasonic bought the company and is killing the brand early next year. It's happening all around us.
Still, I am sort of also hoping that Panasonic will be able to gobble up Olympus, or at least buy some of Oly's technology and recruit that company's brightest brains.
You called that SAAB "comparison" is foolish, comparison made by a person. When you remark that a statement made by a person is foolish, you in turn imply that person to be foolish. I know, it's just too hard when you have to make all the connection, but it's true. When someone says I hate to eat Broccoli, and you say 'that's a foolish thing to say,' there, you just called that person foolish. See how it works? You're no man enough to own upto calling someone foolish, that's fine. Foolish, but fine. I call failure of educational system. It's really not your fault.
You're gonna tell me you draw, too, now? What kind of drawing you gonna send me? Something in crayon, I hope not.
@M1963, so when you call someone foolish, it's okay because it's you, huh? That's no insult, I suppose. You did say, and I quote, "The Saab comparison is plain foolish. Saab had been bought by General Motors, Olympus never belonged to any group." Carefully research when you make such remarks, because Olympus DOES belong to a group. Since Panasonic belongs to Mitsui Keiretsu, and Panasonic has shared resources with Olympus, they are already linked through mutual financing provided by Mitsui. The whole thing is exactly like GM and SAAB, in that they are linked economically, but not really because the whole structure is lateral not vertical.
Really, 'deplorable'? What are you, a British?
@M1963, if you think Olympus stands alone in this, YOU are plain foolish. It is most likely Olympus belongs to either Mitsubishi or Mitsui Keiretsu. If Kikukawa was embazzling Olympus funds, then he had to be doing it with some other people from that Keiretsu. In Japan, it is impossible for one company to take action without support from his brother companies within that Keiretsu structure. Some people in Japan are viewing this as an attack on the Keiretsu Olympus belongs to, possibly as a retaliation of some sort. As they been saying in Japan for the last hundred years, Business is War. By the way, there is a strong indication that Panasonic belongs to the Keiretsu Olympus is part of.
Outcome of this event will all depend on who is the head of Zaibatsu/Keiretsu that controls/influence Olympus Corporation. You have to consider that, in Japanese corporate environment, you are dealing with several companies at once, rather than one single company. It's hard to remember for rest of the world that in Japan, there is no such thing as Anti-Trust law. So if Olympus is at fault, then you can bet that there are other companies which had dealings with event as well. And ultimately few top executives who gained the most from it, although they will NEVER be revealed to the public, willingly by the Japanese police. Japanese police usually do not dig too deep into Keiretsu scandal, because it tends to get too big and too damaging for everyone.Wait a few months, and it will be back to business as usual. Sure some people, being presented to the public as upper management of Olympus, will be incarcerated, and probably be serve some time, but that would be it.
Mannypr: I must admit mirrorless cameras are starting to produce photos of pretty good quality but after having seen samples carefully from all of these camera they still have a long way to go to compete with DSLR cameras . The problems that mirrorless camera confront is that when the mirrorless camera technology takes a step forward , DSLR do the same and get better , always keeping in front of the image quality produce by the latest mirrorless camera has to offer.
I completely agree with Naveed. Seasoned photographers all over the world are using DSLR because that's all they had up until now. What if you gave all of them, say NEX-7, and tell them that's all they can use for next one year? You will see that 'quality' with mirrorless will be on par with DSLR. Guaranteed.
HIScamera: I find it amazing how so many photographer dismisses Mirrorless as trivial invention, that aren't deemed up to their standards, when only 10 years ago, they were saying the same thing about digital cameras. I remember reading bunch of photography magazines all crying foul with these so called 'digital' cameras and how they do not have the 'soul' and 'characters' of the film which they will never replace. Were they right?Mirrorless might be new and unfamiliar, but they are already on par with many DSLRs in terms of IQ, and usability-wise, they will only improve as time passes. Progress Mirrorless made in last 3 years surpasses anything by either DSLR or any rangefinder cameras. Who know what we will have in another year?
I suspect in 10 years, we won't have cellphones. It will be something entirely new, entirely organic. There won't be line dividing 'digital' and 'analogue' in future.
It’s so surprising how photographers, who are supposed to be artists with open mind, to see things in new light, and to accept and utilize what’s available to them in the most creative ways possible, are so dead set in their minds to shun new things and cling to old standards. I really hope their photos do not reflect this.The most amazing photo I saw this year was shot by a photographer, using his iPhone. Clearly he understood that the concept that it is a photographer who takes the photo, not his tool or the limitation of it.
And regarding OVF, stop being stubborn and open your mind to the possibility. It’s absolutely ridiculous how every new technology is immediately targeted as being ‘heretic’ and should be burned at the altar of the god of ‘what-I-am-familiar-is-best-and-shall-not-ever-be-replaced.’ EVF might not be to your standard now, but to discounted as something that can never replace your OVF is just plain idiotic. Give it another year or two, and I bet they will either match or surpass current OVF.
I find it amazing how so many photographer dismisses Mirrorless as trivial invention, that aren't deemed up to their standards, when only 10 years ago, they were saying the same thing about digital cameras. I remember reading bunch of photography magazines all crying foul with these so called 'digital' cameras and how they do not have the 'soul' and 'characters' of the film which they will never replace. Were they right?Mirrorless might be new and unfamiliar, but they are already on par with many DSLRs in terms of IQ, and usability-wise, they will only improve as time passes. Progress Mirrorless made in last 3 years surpasses anything by either DSLR or any rangefinder cameras. Who know what we will have in another year?
Walking around the downtown Vancouver with NEX-5N is perhaps the most gratifying experience I had taking photos of interesting street scenes. Had I done it with, say a Canon 7d with an L glass, that experience would have ended much earlier than I would have liked. Not because of image quality, but because of its weight. When your camera weights close to 2kg, that continuous motion of bringing the camera up to your eye level becomes strenuous over time. If you are not a pro photographer, and do not depend on that shot to make your living, Mirrorless makes so much more sense in terms of street photography.But of course, to say something is good or bad for any one other than yourself, is foolish at best. I’ve seen people who lug around +3-5kg gears all day long, and still have enough strength to lift that mug of beer at the end of the day. (Which the experience they tend to repeat over time)
So in closing, I guess have not contributed much to whatever this is. C'est La Vie.
Photomonkey: The revolution that Sony has in the Nex-7 is the EVF. A pure and simple leap in usability for enthusiasts that somehow escaped the marketers at Olympus, Panasonic and Samsung.
Holding cameras at arm's length is not a serious option for serious photographers.
"Yes we do take photos without using the VF on occasion but that doesn't mean we want to do that all day long."
You want to tell that to Damon Winter? He was out there, taking those shots with his iPhone, all day, every day. Sure, he did his prize winning shots with Canon, but for everyday candid shots of the troops, it was his iPhone that did it for him. ALL DAY LONG.
So, if a serious photographer takes a photo by holding his camera at arm's length, he at once will cease to be serious and become....whimsical?Method by which a person takes his photo does NOT dictate the person's intent. There are notable war journalists who are taking serious photos with their iPhones. And they are doing it at arm's length.
dariusk: Megapixelwar is like other wars not the right way. @higher iso iq of the nex7 is worse than nex5. So what is ist for? For all the newbies that buy their first cam and think higher megapix= bette iq??? Eeryone who needs 24 or more pixels will choose mediumformat and not apc. Good idea with the evf but missed the chance to be a real goal. Defenatly a step back in terms of iq. Only for newbies and dummies.
I guess spell-check and Caps Lock are also for "newbies and dummies", huh?
Francis Carver: So glad to see that SLR MAGIC of Hong Kong continues to deliver quality metal-barrel products at plastic lens prices. Also glad to see that their lenses are pro-style manual focus -- they are not designing optics for the AF amateurs, apparently.
Their lenses should all come with at least 2-3 different lens mounts, however, not just one. Like, what about the same 23mm or 35mm lens with a M4/3 mount?
Problem with thinking only about yourself is, it is dump to discount what other people's needs are. In movie, they have everything they want in the shot the way they want it lined up, not moving or moving the way they need it to. Of course you don't need AF for that. Any idiot can MF still subject or subject that moves they way you ordered them to. But can you MF entire game of Soccer? Or how about an Airshow? You need AF when shooting unpredictable subject, BECAUSE you don't know better than your camera when, say, tracking a fast moving plane that's banking left or right in unpredictable pattern.MF is pretty reliablt when everything is set up the way you want it to. Everthing else in life tends not to be.
Dan Ortego: Heck, at this rate I may well just look for something else to buy for myself this year. Personally, I don't see the NEX7 to be available until after the first of the year.
I wonder if the new NEX Carl Zeiss fast 24mm lens will be in the same boat since its made under contract by Sony?
Aren't you the guy who said you'd be embarrased about buying X100 because you used to own Leica? You're not embarrased about Sony, then?
diegocasale: Attention! A77 is NOT a D-SLR camera, the viwefinder is electronic, not an optical mirror type. SLT cameras have a mirror, but - unlike the one in DSLRs - it does not move, and it is semi-translucent, allowing the majority of the light to pass through to the sensor whilst reflecting a portion of it onto a phase-detection autofocus sensor, this way allowing full time phase detection auto focus.
Good thing diegocasale explained this in detail, otherwise a great mutitude would have been wallowing in their ignorance!
Dan Ortego: Having owned a Leica M8 I would feel embarrassed to haul around the X100. Worst decision I ever made was to sell the damn thing along with those fantastic primes.
I would be embarrased to compare $3000 Leica to $1000 X100.