I can't understand why the 6D didn't get first place...?
After all, this is the FF I am using... That's gotta be worth something no?
Oh well, I guess I must now switch to Nikon to regain my pride... Until next year...
Eugene232: does Samsung make cameras?
We need one guy to make this wise crack at Samsung in every thread. You just won the award for this thread.
There seems to be less and less people finding those cracks funny though... especially in the camera industry...
Regarding your comment on the NX1 having "limited button customization", I am counting no less than 4 programmable buttons (down, left, right pad buttons + dof preview) plus the larger rear wheel. The * and AF-ON button behavior can also be customized as well as the front and rear wheel...
... And then there is the i-fn button on the lenses that can also be programmed on its own or in conjunction with other camera buttons...
In what sense is that " limited"?
nicolaiecostel: I see nothing pro about shooting some dying fish in the morning sun.
More to the point:
- what is the viewfinder lag like in low light. As far as I could see, you shot as the light kept getting better. Will I get motion sickness in real low light ?
- how is the AF in low light, in both single shot accuracy and tracking. You took some demo shots in bright light.
- what is the noise in low light ? You shot as the sun was getting high in the sky, so that's no real indicator for noise as far as I am concerned.
- what is the battery life ? Is the pro going to have to change batteries every 300 shots or it will last for thousands, like the professional cameras ?
- can we really talk about a pro contender when the camera doesn't even has a multi selector for the focus points, and you have to click the screen to change focus points quickly ?
Are you suggesting that solely because it has 15 FPS, 28 megapixels and two 2.8 weatherproofed zooms, it should be a tool for professionals ?
There is a very simple way of selecting AF points/area on any NX camera. Just click the center button of the rear pad and use the up/down/left/right arrows to move the focus point/zone. Turn the front wheel to change the size of the AF area.
No need to use the screen.
Serious Sam: Is there a reason why there is no sample for ISO1600 or above?? May be its not tweak to do that yet??
@HowAboutRaw, Serious Sam is just looking for a validation of his own opinion, don't waste your time pointing out that the release firmware is v1.01 and not the 1.0 that DPR used or that v1.01 images are already online on some other sites: he doesn't care.
His mind is set: Samsung has released an unfinished camera and thus cannot be taken seriously. End of demonstration, never mind the facts.
djrocks66: I played with this camera at Photoplus NYC. I was excited by the specs but disappointed in the handling and build. It felt like a cheap camera in my hands. Sorry if this offends anyone. I really wanted to like it but it is not for me. I hope who ever orders this camera actually tries it first. The capabilities of it sure do surpass the big guy's offerings but specs alone do not make a camera.
To HowAboutRaw: yes I use raw but no I don't have Light room 5 or CameraRaw 8 installed since I am still running Vista... (I know, it's a shame... but I can't decently update to W8 because this OS gives me headaches so I am waiting to the next move by my friends at Microsoft...).
Instead I am using Rawtherapee which is very powerful and usually gives similar results.
I have been using the NX30 and I am not really seeing that.
ISO 3200 is OK but I find ISO 6400 lacks DR and has much shadow noise.
Good ISO 6400 is still FF territory IMO.
JoEick: These photos look lifeless and nothing special (not photographer's fault, he's good!). At least to my eyes.
When I get around to reading the spec sheet and DXO scores they should look a lot better after that.
How would reading a spec sheet and some tests results make pictures better??
The firsts reviews that start to surface on the web look promising. IQ is definitely past the "good enough" threshold for me.
Now waiting for some AF tracking tests.
JEROME NOLAS: It's DSLR size, the 16-50mm lens is heavy and very expensive. What they were thinking about?
Tecno, you're welcome to PM me and make me an offer on your 16-50S zoom. If the price is right, I happily take it off your hands (I live in France and I believe you're in Italy). That should take care of your most expensive piece of gear.
There shoudl be no difficulty selling your 85f1.4 either as this is a highly regarded lens... that would allow you to get an A6000 with some decent lenses.
Honnest offer, feel free to PM me.
Buying into a brand for what it doesn't offer is risky at best.
I don't know where your dream camera is, it may or may not come.
All I know is that I bought Samsung for what they offer, not some imaginary roadmap I thought they should have.
Result: I'm a happy camper getting happier by the day while Samsung dishes out products that suit me while you are miserable and left to complain on Internet forums... I like the view better from where I stand...
Ad B: Hi,
was it forbidden to make pictures above ISO1600??These pics can be made by every pretty good camera.
At the Photokina I tried the NX1, at the cameramonitor it had better pics at ISO12800 as my E-M5 with ISO6400.To make a compareson at lower, usefull ISOs, you need a bigger and better screen (a computer).(Or Dpreview...)
Have you seen the kind of damage a few sub-par pictures released too early can do to a camera...?
Samsung is just asking to be judged fairly on what they will actually deliver to customers.... too much to ask?
Give people options?
Unless you have the magical formula to shrink this kind of lens to liliputian size...
Want small? Use one of the pancake lenses or the 16-50PZ zoom and/or wait for NX300 successor... what were you thinking?
The answer to your question is mentioned on each and every page of the text pictures (firmware not 100% production).
art99: OK, so the photos are sharp as expected in mostly sunlight at ISO 100 , but how about a few at ISO 6400 to 12,800 for a change in a dark venue at F2.8 ? After all it boasts a BSI sensor so let's see what that can do in the dark like evening street scenes or wedding venues.
Re-read what phazelag just wrote and look at the DPR image page.. the reason why they did not take pictures at ISO > 1600 is clearly stated... no need to get the conspiration theory out...
Jay Kelbley: Production cameras with first production release firmware are shipping now.Higher ISO image samples will be flooding the pages shortly.
This camera is spectacular!
Well obviously yes, at least, Jay is honest enough to write it clearly under his name... many people here are affiliated with other brands but are less open about it...
onlooker: At ISO 1600 (4_BETASAMPLE_ISO1600_SAM_0170) NR seems very heavy handed.
@thx1138 thanks for your insightful thoughts.
We need one grumpy old guy in every thread about Samsung just to remember everyone that Samsung is first and foremost an electronic appliances maker that knows nothing about cameras.
Likewise, Canon should probably stick to copiers and Sony to whatever they could do that would earn them some money...
Meanwhile, in the real world, all make great cameras that far exceed what we had just a few years ago in both functionality and quality... Samsung included.
Looking good. I shoot quite a lot of portraits and I like what I see here. Skin tones are nice and the 16-50S shines!
I have one coming soon for my NX30.
tabloid: Saw the 16-50 f2-2-8 on eBay.$1349 (£848).
Im not sure if this is old news.
You sure share your feelings... A lot! I don't think there is a forum online where you're not posting your opinions on Samsung cams.
By now, everyone reading these is well aware of how you feel about the brand that doesn't suit you but you insist on using.
I have difficulties understanding how you say that you are locked in the Samsung system but somehow will keep on buying cameras that you don't like, thus getting you deeper in this very same system instead of getting out of it and buying into any one of the systems you think are so much better...
You say you don't want to loose money and yet are preparing to throw some more into the pit... It doesn't make any sense except to fuel your ongoing rants.
How do we call someone making the same mistakes over and over again and expecting each time a different result?
So switch brands already!
You'll waste considerably less time explaining how inadequate is your gear and will stop putting money in this dead end.
I shot Pentax 21 years but when I saw that they were not heading in a direction I liked, I sold it all and moved on to Canon. I have never regretted it and should have done it sooner.