fmian: From their website:'APS-C (Both Macro and Normal shooting)Full-frame (Macro shooting only)i.e. Slight vignetting will appear for Full-frame camera at normal shooting, while no impact for Macro shooing'
I was initially under the impression (after only seeing the first line quoted in another article) that the lens would not focus to infinity on full frame.With the note explaining the vignetting does this mean that there is a large variation of magnification when focus is changed from close to far?
It will focus from 2:1 all the way to infinity with F/F with this lens, but with vignette at extreme corners.
Just received this lens yesterday, it's amazing money for what it can do, the only thing that bugs me is the amount of distortion that is not corrected. I've used the distortion correction program on the Sony A7II and this removed almost all of it, meaning distortion correction is required during processing in Photoshop.
All that said, the sharpness at full aperture is comparable to Nikon 60mm at f2.8 and f8. The bokeh however is much better than the Nikon at f2.8, it's creamy and can be used as a portrait lens. It will work with A7II as a full frame with small amount of vignette which some may like because it creates drama. It can focus right down to 2:1 with great sharpness when stop down from full aperture.
Overall a very capable lens for the money.
We photographer never had it so good and since change is the only constant, I welcome all 'new' ideas and we should allow ourselves to 'change' with time and technology... :)
ecm: So disappointing. As though bells and whistles will make up for spectacularly poor image quality. 76% is being charitable. And $900 for a fast 85mm equivalent? Please.
As it happens, I do make lots of 60" x 40" prints for fun and for my own study of camera/lens/sensor/quality. In fact, this has become my own standard for my own test, the first digital camera for this exercise is the Epson RD1 and even a 6mp can print up beautifully without any jaggies when done properly.
This is a free world and everyone is free to express whatever and same applies to those who rants with disagreement, it's ok for me too. :)
I have made a 60" x 40" print from the V3 with the standard zoom is 'better' than my ancient Nikon F2 with Tri-X pan, both in resolution and in grain structure. Digital is so much better even with a 1" sensor that most are not yet fully aware of, seeing is believing.
It's amazing how many people are dissing this wonderful camera, those who rant keep on ranting, those who love to shoot with the V1/V3 keep on shooting.
Sixpm: Instead of accepting the merit of each camera's unique design and character, people always compare to another and it's not that wise IMHO. I have used almost every camera that there is and still own enough to write this comment, I see that each camera (and lens) are synergies formed by each particular company's and designer's philosophy, this camera is intended for street, sports or action photograph and we should be viewed it as such.
Personally, having used the V3 and made prints to 60' x 40" (inches) have confirmed the print from this 'little' camera has the look and feel of the tradition film camera and when printed on the fibre material, one can hardly see any digital artefact (with all noise reduction switched off - from the untouched jpeg files).
I thought the V1 was good but the V3 is every way better in both handling and image quality (with film like grain noise) taken into account. I'm not a brand follower as to me all camera/lenses are just tools for me to express myself.
A camera is like a tool, any passionate craftsman would wish to learn as much from the tool in order to choose which tool is best to suit their needs, what's the big deal guys.
There are lots of angry birds here and everywhere... :)
To me this is an exercise to enrich my mind and it's up to anyone to interpret anyway one wishes.
Instead of accepting the merit of each camera's unique design and character, people always compare to another and it's not that wise IMHO. I have used almost every camera that there is and still own enough to write this comment, I see that each camera (and lens) are synergies formed by each particular company's and designer's philosophy, this camera is intended for street, sports or action photograph and we should be viewed it as such.
Sixpm: I have been using the V3 finder grip lens kit for the past three four weeks and not a day without it, I had the V1 for a couple of years and although the V1 is good, ergonomically it just cannot compared with the V3. I have made 60" x 40" prints which only to remind me of the film days with Tri-x pan on a old Nikon F2.
Too many people is judging the ability of this little camera on the price and I'm sure once you used this camera you'll not look back to any other cameras because the speed and ease of capture for street or sports photography. Of course, horses for courses if I were to shoot high quality interior, I would have used the D800E with fixed lenses but then again, I know I could have done the same by shooting multi stitch frames to achieve the same or better quality.
What I'm trying to say is this 'little' camera is 'that good'. Don't have to believe a word I said here, go and hire one out and find it out for yourself.
Anyone who has been shooting film will know what I'm talking about, the Nikon V1 and V3 with the noise reduction switched OFF will give a lovely grain effect much akin to film. Like I said, people who in the know 'knows' and I won't argue with anyone here. For anyone who question the validity of my evaluation, I have been in photography since I was 12 and have been a traditional fine art printer in London for 22 years, so I know what grain is.
Even the V1 can easily make 40" x 30" prints with film like feel and prints have been exhibited by paper manufacturer INNOVA's booths. All this means is if V1 or V3 can do this, then there is NO QUESTION that other large sensor can do BETTER but don't posses the same grain like quality unless adding artificial grain (i.e. DXO film pack) because the larger sensor quality is too good these days.
Also the FF 35mm with the likes of Sony A7R or D800E with a good lens can give a BETTER sharpness quality over the medium format Pentax D645.
I have been using the V3 finder grip lens kit for the past three four weeks and not a day without it, I had the V1 for a couple of years and although the V1 is good, ergonomically it just cannot compared with the V3. I have made 60" x 40" prints which only to remind me of the film days with Tri-x pan on a old Nikon F2.
Nick932: i am not surprised. So far a Leica Premier Dealer supplied me three defective Leica Ms. I caught them supplying used equipment for new. So I cannot say that was Leica's fault. However the next M will be bought directly from Leica with caution. However, for my taste, M has the best IQ, easy to use, hard to miss a shot. This make it an inexpensive camera. I would not buy a T though.
This explains why my ex M8.2 shutter failed after 2 months from 'new'....
straylightrun: $1000 for a 70-300 telephoto lens.....?
low pass filter free model will be Nikon V3s or V4…. paid up and shut up…..
Just wait for another year and the price will drop to $299 including lens..happened with the V1 and J1..does it not? I'm sure most of us here have enough gear to get us by for another 12 month at least…. :)
Is this an indication that our world is heading towards a unity consciousness where everything will eventually will be free for all? Most music, books, programs and movies are already free to download and photography is well and truly heading towards the same direction. Either this is a scan to cause more inequality or we are heading towards a paradigm shift where we just all work for the love of all humanity.
harold1968: Firstly FF has better absolute IQ, no doubt, I say this as the a RX1R owner, which apart from the A7R and the D800E, is the best thing below MF full stop IMHO.Secondly however the IQ of the E-M1 is so close in most circumstances, it's quietness, portability and speed are clear advantages.The lens size difference is massive.It's also about technique as well, look at Ming Thein to see what can be done with the OM-D.This is an absolutely superb camera that is still impressing me every day.
I have even made a 60" x 40" print from the 6MP Epson RD1 file which look every bit as good as any modern camera sensor, so I consider the 6MP then was at the threshold of matching FF 35mm of the old. There's little doubt that most modern 10 plus megapixel cameras can now print to 40" x 30" or even 60" x 40" with quality good enough for exhibition. We are now way past the quality point of FF 35mm film photography from this perspective.
I use both the FF Sony A7R along with the OMD 1 & 5 because of the 'feel' I can obtain from the sensor and lens combination. For instance, the smaller sensor lenses has smaller physical apertures and so offers better depth of field than FF. On top of this is that we now can married up almost any lenses to these bodies via adapters and we can obtain all sorts of look and feel.
To me, photography is now at the BEST as it can get.... :)
I'm a OM-D owner and I can't see the reason for the existence of this model. I rather it's more like the NEX6 with the build-in finder which make it truly like the old Pen-F, no amount of hype can get me to buy this camera which offer too little and costing so much.
I love Richard's digicam grips, have purchased for my Olympus EPL3, Canon S95 and the new Sony RX100. The handling changes with this grip and it's amazing how short sighted is the camera manufacturers are.
I buy from Richard's site direct and he never failed me yet.
It's strange how one's mind changes over time!
I was a keen Leica M8/8.2 user for at least 3 years, but with the arrival of the micro 4/3rd cameras and because of the weight issue, I no longer has the urge to use any heavy camera and the Leica digital M's are now feels weight of a brick on my neck. Plus the fact a good 12MP is good enough to go to 40" x 30" and so the mega pixel is no longer the issue for me.
With the amount of different type of camera on the market now, one is spoiled for choices both in terms of price, weight, function and the most important of all is the abundance of quality as all formats now closely matching as the digital technology gets betters.
MaRcIu: not sure if everything about this camera is expensive or I'm too poor.
We are the 'creators' of our reality, by believing that you're 'poor' will 'draw' the 'poor' experience you're projecting. I'm sure if there is something you desperately wanted you'll eventually will make it happen... :)