backayonder: You keep telling me my Olympus XZ1 is dying because you all have smartphones well thank god I still have my heavy cumbersome DSLR and 70-200mm lens
Thank you, Lee Jay. Very interesting -- and helpful.
Jefftan: unfortunate that tough camera is still stuck in 2009, is t it really that difficult to at least put in waterproof for all these premium compact?
even with no zoom or limited zoom will be popular I betI have been waiting literally for years
I agree, Jefftan, that tough cameras offer something that it is worth pursuing. I've got a Sony TX10 I put in my pocket whenever I anticipate getting wet. Let's hope these cameras get better, and IMHO, lose the weird styling.
The problem, though, is all the folks who try to use them for serious underwater photography and ruin them or are disappointed by the results. I think a bright line on true weather sealing versus waterproofing, would be useful. Yes, tkbslc, true waterproofing is very, very hard to do.
whtchocla7e: The point-and-shoots are alive and well.
The Nex 3/5, the small m4/3 cams from Oly and Panny, the Nikon 1, the Q from Pentax, the premium compacts from various manufacturers?
They're all point-and-shoots in disguise. They sell in mass quantities, the majority of the buyers never purchase an additional lenses or accessories.
Your casual photographer may now have a more capable camera with interchangeable lenses (and they may not even know it!) but the point-and-shoot mentality does not change.
The definition of a point-and-shoot should be more dynamic to reflect the current state of the (lower end) camera market.
Yes, DMiller hits the bright line here. A true P&S can only be used as a P&S and has minimal manual controls (just like a phone!). Because more sophisticated cameras have a P&S mode, doesn't make them a P&S.
peevee1: "Why the death of the point and shoot"
Rumors of their death are greatly exaggerated. Fixed-lens cameras still sell many times the number of ILCs. And excellent products like RX10, FZ1000, LX100 and G7X will only reinforce this advantage.
This is a good discussion. I think it also means that photography will be getting more expensive for enthusiasts, and/or the release of new models will slow. The profits of low end P&S funded many innovations.
As someone mentioned, Leica still makes money. But they are high priced, low volume sales. Could be the photography industry will be moving toward Leica, and we are currently living in a golden age of low cost, brilliant innovation.
I would truly like to see an in-depth comparison between phones and these P&S cameras. How, backayonder, does your YZ-1 compare to the latest phone, image quality-wise? Also, I'm surprised major manufacturer has marketed their P&S's against phones by comparing image quality. One gets the sense that phones are gradually getting better and knocking off lower quality P&S, but where does that leave the remaining P&S cameras?
Thanks much for this, Mr. Butler. You address evenhandedly a subject many of us are curious about. I do wish you had elaborated on your point here, though:
"The new lens I'm not mentioning here is the Olympus 40-150mm F2.8 Pro. This is because, although in one respect it's a very similar lens to the other ones I'm discussing, its effect on a Micro Four Thirds body is very different."
I'd like to hear your view on exactly what that effect is.
Dames01: This looks like the perfect replacement for my ageing S90.
Agree on the battery life. With no EVF to drain it, a bit of a mystery to me why its life is so short.
Well done! Thanks for this. I note that the soldier's load has gotten no lighter over the years.
Great review, thanks DPR. Question: I would find it useful to be able to add my tripod to my gear list. Is it too expensive to add these sorts of accessories?
David Hurt: $800.00 for a tripod??? You are kidding me. Never!
$600 is not too much to support $5,000 in camera gear, methinks. Key is that the tripod will last for years, unlike most of my other camera equipment. I figured, heck, I'll spend the money now, enjoy a first-class piece of equipment and never feel the need to update. I've had the Gitzo Traveler for more than a year and love it. Anyway, I see that it is an expensive piece of kit and others may not value it as I do. I do lots of travel and I do appreciate saving every ounce when I can.
Malikknows: Great and useful story, I just wish they had reviewed Gitzo. They've been leaders in the travel tripod segment for quite some time. I love mine.
Thanks, Mark! Yes, indeed, I have the Gitzo Series 1 in carbon fiber. Crazy expensive but I thought I'd buy a good one and then not have to upgrade. It hasn't let me down. In any event, appreciate the response!
Great and useful story, I just wish they had reviewed Gitzo. They've been leaders in the travel tripod segment for quite some time. I love mine.
I enjoy these stories. Cameras are artifacts with their own extraordinary histories to tell. Thanks, DPR.
Johannes Zander: Act of Genocide!Oh now, since it was the US it must be an humanitarian act of libaration in the name of freedom.
I think Germans should shut up -- permanently-- on the subjects of genocide and atrocity, notwithstanding their demonstrated talent for them.
munro harrap: In case you wombles do not know, photographer is the no 1 most dangerous profession. The percentage killed relative to the total number makes it so.It is an occupational hazard, and everyone who goes unarmed into a war to record it knows this. No ideology is involved, no politics are needed to cloak mass murder, but unfortunately her generation were inspired by a few in mine who fancied what they did made a difference.
Recording conflicts we in the West started ourselves was a futile irony that just never occurred to them strongly enough to keep them at home safe with their terrified stressed families and friends.
How many more?
You had time to make an idiotic, off-topic PC response to my post. You truly should find time to get your facts straight before inserting yourself into an issue of which you obviously have no knowledge or insight. People who cannot assign moral responsibility for a discrete events like 9/11 really should take their own advice and avoid "complex" topics.
Wow, PC you indeed are. A few inconvenient facts for you: The US didn't invade Saudi Arabia because its government cooperated with the US, unlike the Taliban. It is that simple. And I see you couldn't resist including Iraq, which has no relevance to Afghanistan whatsoever but is a meme for those prone to anti-Western propaganda who just can't help themselves.
I find it funny that Westerners like to lecture me about my own culture and my own religion and even my own history. Funny that. My question is: why all the self-hate? Can't you make an argument for Australia and its allies? Do you really believe the West is morally equivalent to the Taliban? Oh, by the way, it would be truly hard for the US to have "had its fingers in the ME...[for] millennia" as those nations have not existed that long. But that kind of hyperbole just shows your bias.
LadyGaGa: Oh yeah Arias is a Fuji whore.
He's a working professional. Making a buck. Good for him.
This is not helpful, and not even true. Very PC view of history where moral responsibility is amorphous, not definable or assignable. Sorry, but the truth of the matter is quite clear and not at all grey. I'm quite sure the Taliban are Afghanis. I'm quite sure they allowed terrorist training camps with full knowledge of what they would be used for. I'm quite sure the Taliban are Islamic fundamentalists who cooperated with like-minded fundamentalists, and are doing so today. And I'm quite sure they would slit your throat if given the chance.
The design of this camera tells me Leica does not understand why its M is so revered. If I want modern design, I'll go to Sony or Panasonic. If I want classic design, it would have been nice had Fuji been joined by Leica. Pity.
"conflicts we in the West started"? Afghanistan? Really? The terrorists who killed 3,000 innocents on 9/11 was the start, I'm quite sure.