Ed Gill: I also find this an interesting camera at a "fair" price. I just wish there were some confirmed specifications out there. For example:Flash sync speeds (couldn't even find in the manual). Type of shutter, if similar to Fuji x100s, does it have the same limitations? Does the data port for the viewfinder also support mic/headphone input/output?Since this is really a m4/3 format camera, the price seems very fair compared to the hideously overpriced m4/3 lenses, making this a strong contender for my $ compared to a Pany GX7.What they (Canon) needs to fix to really sell me: Flash pass-through port on the viewfinder - so I can have flash AND viewfinder not OR viewfinder.KILLER ACCESSORY: True optical viewfinder with superimposed info (zoom-able or three position (24/50/100) with FOV brightlines).Wishful development: Same camera but in-body shutter and m4/3 compliant mount with Canon made adapters for mounting M/EF-S/EF lenses.
Flash pass through (the EVF) or rather the lack of it, was what turned me off the Oly PENs & probably why the OM-D range have taken off instead.
mosc: This camera is suspiciously close to the canon APS-C pixel density and crop factor for it to be a totally different sensor. Has anybody ripped one appart and directly measured the chip in comparison to Canon's APS-C? It just seems far fetched that they would make a sensor like this specific for the G series and much more likely that they'd worry about differentiating their APS-C DSLR line from the G series by not utilizing the entire sensor.
Could be a laugh if they used a Sony sensor in it! ;)
justmeMN: Another mirrorless camera featuring a DSLR Envy Design. :-) Since you can't beat them, try to look like them.
And it works nicely for the Stylus 1 as well, so why not? ;)
Mika Tuka: The viewfinder of E-M10 is a shame for 2014. While everybody is including ~2.5 million dots this one is 1.5 million. I compared E-M5 viewfinder and E-M1 – they are different like night and day. I’m very disappointed – this is the camera I was waiting for and it doesn’t include a modern viewfinder.
Any thoughts why?
Why should every model they release be your one you've been waiting for when it's been known (through the 'rumor' sites), but hardly excepted by many, that it was only going to be an entry level model, with constant explanations from many that it will be that lower cost, entry level camera that many have been waiting for since the E-M5. Maybe there will be a replacement for the E-M5 later this year, but we will have to wait & see. You could get the new Elite E-M5 kit (with the 12-40 lens).
dahod: I guess it would have been to too much to ask to include the phase detect from the E-M1. They went to all the trouble to develop it and show their commitment to 4/3 and then leave it off the next camera they release?
Since that (on sensor PD-AF) is primarily to use with & carry some of those heavy 4/3's SWD lenses, it's probably better that it hasn't got it.
Robert Garcia NYC: I hope the worlds fastest AF is not the usual B.S. from Fuji.
The worlds fastest APSC mirrorless maybe. ;)
Jogger: I could see these doing well in Walmart, Target, Staples, or Radioshack. There is a place for cheap off-brand, products like this. And, in many places around the world, American nameplates are still well regarded; e.g. Buick is considered a luxury brand in China.
There is a place for these level of cameras in these super stores. I bought myself a 'Thomson' tablet from Target at a good price & it works well. When I want something better I will then look at better known brands & this is likely what will happen here by bringing a cheaper introduction of M4/3's to the general public, they will then become aware of Olympus & Panasonic as (or if) they want more & better.
davethecubist: No filter threads in a $700 "enthusiast" camera. I think it's a poser.
Ken Yull. I don't know where you got that idea. This is quoted from Olympus site as being accessories & the above thread shows that filters are used for the adapter tube that takes that TCON-17X lens on the XZ-2.
"STYLUS 1 dedicated Converter Adapter, CLA-13 Tele-converter lens, TCON-17X "
You should check the facts before over-reacting.
Bjrn SWE: Cameras with viewfinders should be rated higher.
In my opinion & for my use, yes (for the EVF).I waited for an Olympus M4/3's CSC with one & got the OM-D E-M5. Now I want something that is self contained with enough focal zoom length that can produce sufficient IQ & have some of the operating experience I'm used to with Olympus etc, & after seeing nice images from the XZ-2 with the same sensor as the Stylus 1, that is one I'm getting to be the take anywhere camera that has an EVF, where the E-M5 kit is too much. Hopefully by Christmas. ;)
Frank C.: for 500$ I would consider it ... but barely. That sensor is not worth the money they're asking for no matter how you slice or dice it
And you are.....(FrankC)? And we should take notice of you because.....?
I don't think so!
Ulfric M Douglas: Buy it for the EVF and the awesome lens cap!
Funny man! ;)
jira: Can one mount a filter on the lens?
If you want to use a filter then use the adapter CLA-13 tube (STYLUS 1 dedicated Converter Adapter, CLA-13) which will take 55mm filters (the same as the CLA-12). See this thread.http://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/3263302
So are all the good looking & 'retro' cameras! Who cares?
gmke: I have been kicking around with an XZ-1 since the camera came out and I am a little embarrassed how much I end up liking this sensibly-sized camera. All of these 1:1.6 and 1:1.7 cameras have the ability to shoot decent pictures at 400 ISO and what saves the day for me is the bright f1.8-f2.5 lens. It is rare for any need to violate the 400 ISO boundary. There are two stops of protection built into the lens. which kind of reminds me of a similar feeling about my DSLR with two stops of headroom on the sensor. Of course, bright sunshine ruins the fun because you really need a viewfinder. While the Stylus 1 lacks the two stop advantage at the wide end, 2.8 is not far from the 2.5 at the far end is 2.5 times narrower. So... Maybe Santa is thinking hard about this camera.
I think Santa is going to be good to me this Christmas. This will be a nice alternative to carrying the E-M5 kit around when all I want is one small bag with sufficient reach in the zoom & compactness.
alexisgreat: How about those of us who want to take pictures of birds far away, the moon to fill the frame and planets? 300mm zoom isnt enough, I find myself using a TC even with a 720mm superzoom! and the weight of a large sensor camera plus large lens is simply not an option
No camera is everything to everybody. That is why there is choice throughout the range from P&S to top of the line Pro DSLR's.
So if you want to take photos of birds far away with this camera you could get the add-on teleconverter kit or get an interchangeable lens camera (DSLR or CSC) with the appropriate lens.
B-rad: Yet another so called super zoom with not enough zoom. What a shame. I use a Canon SX50 SUPER ZOOM and even with that most birds are still out of reach.
But your Canon SX50 SUPER ZOOM is not going to have the lens quality of this i.Zuiko lens in the Stylus 1.
keeponkeepingon: Y'all need to read your own buying guide, this is not a superzoom and you folks are just about the only ones calling it a superzoom:
From the most recent buying guide: "Super zoom / Bridge'Very powerful zoom lenses - typically 20X+ zooms"
10X is not a super zoom. All we have here is a big inconvenient camera with (relatively) little zoom with a lens that is (relatively) slow on the not so wide end (where most folks use it the most) and (relatively) fast on the long end.
300m is what I use for kids soccer and it's barely enough, forget about birds etc.
It's hard to rationalize the cost and size when you can get a pocketable 7X LF1 for under $400.
"10X is not a super zoom. All we have here is a big inconvenient camera with (relatively) little zoom with a lens that is (relatively) slow on the not so wide end (where most folks use it the most) and (relatively) fast on the long end."
It is a typical all purpose zoom though, like the APS-C 18-200mm & M4/34's 14-150mm & that is a useful zoom length.
I for one am very interested in this camera having an E-M5 kit & wishing for something small & light on occasions & this will suit very well (having seen results from the same sensor in the XZ-2). If you're going to soccer then take your kit & 300mm lens & also for birds, but go to a street fair (festival) & this Stylus1 will be just perfect without having that heavier bag hanging off the shoulder.
ManuelVilardeMacedo: The handgrip doesn't blend with the paintjob, but that's the least of this camera's aesthetic issues. And the Vespa's decoration is amateurish to say the least. Yet I'm 100% sure someone will buy this "kit".
Maybe you should had offered to do the painting then & maybe you might have liked it.
burnin: All I see are overexposed photos. Just sayin'.
There is more to photography (& life) than worrying if is slightly overexposed.
timo: Yes yes OK, they're very cute.
But is this what DPR is supposed to be all about? Or is this a traffic-generating ploy?
Sorry guys, but I think you are eroding your own position vis a vis the committed gear-heads (who, lets face it, have always been your core constituency).
What's the point of gear if you're not going to use it. These are lovely shots & to heck with gear, as these are priceless shots (of his daughter).