MAC

MAC

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Canon 7d2, SL1, + lenses-- Sports, Events, and Creative shooting

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MAC: Colors and skin tones look off. Noise is 3 stops behind 6d. Expensive for what it is.

@ttran88: when sony makes a jean pocket camera that gets skin tones right, has a use-able iso 3200, and charges a reasonable price, then I might consider. Until then, SL1 and iphone

Direct link | Posted on Jun 30, 2015 at 09:53 UTC
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MAC: Colors and skin tones look off. Noise is 3 stops behind 6d. Expensive for what it is.

@HowaboutRAW:

yes 6d good deal, and I have plenty of lenses, but I'm a 7d2 owner and $1499 on that one is a great deal!

Direct link | Posted on Jun 30, 2015 at 09:48 UTC
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MAC: Colors and skin tones look off. Noise is 3 stops behind 6d. Expensive for what it is.

it's useable max is iso 1600 which compares to my SL1 iso 3200 - see below. My SL1 has good skin tone colors. I paid $363 for my SL1 when it first came out. The small $125 50 STM is wonderful and this small setup fits in my jacket pocket with no neck strap and my hand strap string. When I bought my SL1 I got a package deal from this site's gear shop with the great 55-250 stm for just $181. This second light lens fits in my second jacket pocket. Then I bought the great 10 - 18 stm for $299 which fits in my 3rd jacket pocket = $968 total, better colors, better IQ, better 16-400 range. Works with my odins. Backs up my 7d2. iphone for me

http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/image-comparison/fullscreen?attr18=daylight&attr13_0=sony_dscrx100m4&attr13_1=canon_eos100d&attr13_2=panasonic_dmclx100&attr13_3=canon_g7x&attr15_0=raw&attr15_1=raw&attr15_2=raw&attr15_3=raw&attr16_0=1600&attr16_1=3200&attr16_2=1600&attr16_3=1600&normalization=full&widget=1&x=0.42049899602059077&y=0.882336663137023

Direct link | Posted on Jun 30, 2015 at 09:44 UTC
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MAC: Colors and skin tones look off. Noise is 3 stops behind 6d. Expensive for what it is.

@HowaboutRAW:

And one is $948, which I'd rather put those dollars into a reasonably priced 6d.

Direct link | Posted on Jun 30, 2015 at 02:15 UTC
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MAC: Colors and skin tones look off. Noise is 3 stops behind 6d. Expensive for what it is.

We've seen a 6d refurb for just $1099. sony is noted for scape shooting, but is expensive. When sony makes a decently priced pocket camera with good skin tones (not their forte) and better high iso, I'll buy one

Direct link | Posted on Jun 30, 2015 at 02:08 UTC
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MAC: Colors and skin tones look off. Noise is 3 stops behind 6d. Expensive for what it is.

http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/image-comparison/fullscreen?attr18=daylight&attr13_0=sony_dscrx100m4&attr13_1=canon_eos6d&attr13_2=canon_eos7dii&attr13_3=canon_eos7d&attr15_0=raw&attr15_1=raw&attr15_2=raw&attr15_3=raw&attr16_0=1600&attr16_1=12800&attr16_2=6400&attr16_3=3200&normalization=full&widget=1&x=0.44743485086342244&y=0.8418574231523872

eg, 1600 vs 12,800

Direct link | Posted on Jun 30, 2015 at 01:36 UTC

Colors and skin tones look off. Noise is 3 stops behind 6d. Expensive for what it is.

Direct link | Posted on Jun 30, 2015 at 01:18 UTC as 23rd comment | 18 replies
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Mike FL: What's the "Measured ISO vs Manufacture ISO" for a particular camera?

Some times/people/reviewers forget above important fact when comparing two cameras' (sensor) performance.

Unfortunately DRP lab test does NOT include the "Measured ISO vs Manufacture ISO", so the results may not be always accurate for ISO and DR performance in terms of comparing two cameras.

"lens considerations" - though use of lens is a consideration for sharpness. The old 50 f1.4 isn't the best on high mpxl

Direct link | Posted on Jun 28, 2015 at 06:15 UTC
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Mike FL: What's the "Measured ISO vs Manufacture ISO" for a particular camera?

Some times/people/reviewers forget above important fact when comparing two cameras' (sensor) performance.

Unfortunately DRP lab test does NOT include the "Measured ISO vs Manufacture ISO", so the results may not be always accurate for ISO and DR performance in terms of comparing two cameras.

The tool looks pretty good. I'm going to start using it more. The RX100 IV high iso looks not so good though - 2 stops behind 7d2 and 3 stops behind 6d in raw. No thanks for the $

Direct link | Posted on Jun 28, 2015 at 05:56 UTC
On Canon EOS 7D Mark II Review preview (1290 comments in total)
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peter1957: Yeah i agree with Photo Nest.
I have four Canon DSLR'S ,two being 5D3 and 7D2.
I also find touch screens awful there just a toy an add on you really don't need
and something to easily break.
Do yourselves a favor, grab a 7D2 and a good lens get off your butts
go outside learn to use it and it will blow you away.
This is one awesome camera and does not deserve to be picked to pieces by
people who most likely have never used one.

but for those of us that own touch screen on cameras and 7d2, the 7d2 button customization gets you there quicker

Direct link | Posted on Jun 13, 2015 at 13:12 UTC
On Canon EOS 7D Mark II Review preview (1290 comments in total)
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Photo Nest: Everybody has the right to their own opinion, I've read some reviews here and honestly let me share something with you, take it from a pro with 28 years in the industry and an active portrait photographer still, what's not to like about this camera??

Those who are writing awful things about the 7DII must be Nikon, Sony or some other brand's shooter and want to make the 7DII look bad for no reason.

"If" and again "if" you know what you are doing this camera with the proper
L Series lens will provide you with excellent image quality and satisfaction.

Some people even complaint about the 7DII not having touch screen, hey I don't even like touch screen.

It's a beautiful piece of equipment, I am very happy with mine, but yes gotta have the glass guys, if not you'll never find out what this camera can give you!!

Photo Nest

Totally agree also, glass makes this very good camera sing!

Direct link | Posted on Jun 13, 2015 at 12:22 UTC
On Nikon D7200 Review preview (525 comments in total)
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redhed17: “…Nikon shooters have been awaiting the arrival of a D400, or some kind of replacement for the D300S. We think that camera is the D7200. It offers the same continuous shooting performance as the D300S (but now at 24MP) while adding a significantly better AF system …. Build quality isn't quite in the same league but practically speaking it's very close.”
So at the 3rd time of asking Nikon has not matched the 6 year old D300S in fps without using a crop mode, is still not as fast as the D300S with the grip, and is still not a ‘Pro’ body. But Canon have raised the bar (for fps at least) by the 7DII, and yet DPReview consider the D7200 a good replacement for the D300S. :-/
Canon are more likely to get my money, as they have actually brought out a ‘Pro’/Enthusiast camera. Nikon seem to have ceded that sector, because the D7200 is on a par with the 70D, not the 7DII. And it is certainly not a proper successor to the D300S. Imho.
Keep following the Nikon party line though DPReview.

rishi had 4 posts to my 1. To summarize my opinion:

1) A body can't take a shot on its own. Glass systems are a huge consideration. You shouldn't decouple glass considerations in reviews.

2) A general check sheet to determine an all in one camera doesn't work anymore. Many of us own multiple cameras for multiple purposes. The manufacturers are actually designing cameras for different purposes, yet DPR continues to use a general check sheet and a bunch of wedding and landscape togs doing the reviews not placing enough weighting/value on sports genre.

3) All the numbers and mechanics and charts don't always point to the real world use and photographs. DPR is obsessed with DR. Dynamic Range has little impact on sports and many portraits. DPR is obsessed with auto tracking. Yet where are the real shooting situations that benefit from trumped up testing senarios? Show us live, real shooting comparisons using
video.

Northrup now wants 5dsr -> detail.

sports shooters -> 7d2

Direct link | Posted on Jun 8, 2015 at 11:12 UTC
On Nikon D7200 Review preview (525 comments in total)
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redhed17: “…Nikon shooters have been awaiting the arrival of a D400, or some kind of replacement for the D300S. We think that camera is the D7200. It offers the same continuous shooting performance as the D300S (but now at 24MP) while adding a significantly better AF system …. Build quality isn't quite in the same league but practically speaking it's very close.”
So at the 3rd time of asking Nikon has not matched the 6 year old D300S in fps without using a crop mode, is still not as fast as the D300S with the grip, and is still not a ‘Pro’ body. But Canon have raised the bar (for fps at least) by the 7DII, and yet DPReview consider the D7200 a good replacement for the D300S. :-/
Canon are more likely to get my money, as they have actually brought out a ‘Pro’/Enthusiast camera. Nikon seem to have ceded that sector, because the D7200 is on a par with the 70D, not the 7DII. And it is certainly not a proper successor to the D300S. Imho.
Keep following the Nikon party line though DPReview.

So Rishi, no problem, I am a canon fan of 15 years. It appears you did read the Northrup thread in the 1d forum and I hoped you saw the video. Apparently he used the same sigma 24-105 lens on both the 5dsr and d810, and for detail the 5dsr did smoke the d810 and wasn't far behind after NR in DR.

Also a pro sports shooter doesn't buy the 70-200 f4 IS - an older design - I was talking the f2.8 II which is tops

Really on the 35 lens comment? My 35 F2 IS for $550 is one of the finest value lenses around.

My point in testing tracking is show us real pro use cases side by side - make a video

There are no NX1's on the pro sidelines - there are reasons for that

Your reviews claim better - but slightly better in high iso - what does that mean in real shooting? It means little to nothing unless you show real shots.

For the money of the D7200, FF can be had - and is a better value

7d2- silent shutter, anti-flicker, AF in video, best canon exposure system.

Show us video comparisons!

Direct link | Posted on Jun 7, 2015 at 12:41 UTC
On Nikon D7200 Review preview (525 comments in total)
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redhed17: “…Nikon shooters have been awaiting the arrival of a D400, or some kind of replacement for the D300S. We think that camera is the D7200. It offers the same continuous shooting performance as the D300S (but now at 24MP) while adding a significantly better AF system …. Build quality isn't quite in the same league but practically speaking it's very close.”
So at the 3rd time of asking Nikon has not matched the 6 year old D300S in fps without using a crop mode, is still not as fast as the D300S with the grip, and is still not a ‘Pro’ body. But Canon have raised the bar (for fps at least) by the 7DII, and yet DPReview consider the D7200 a good replacement for the D300S. :-/
Canon are more likely to get my money, as they have actually brought out a ‘Pro’/Enthusiast camera. Nikon seem to have ceded that sector, because the D7200 is on a par with the 70D, not the 7DII. And it is certainly not a proper successor to the D300S. Imho.
Keep following the Nikon party line though DPReview.

"As a Canon owner, instead of simply defending your product, you should be asking: why do others do it better?"

@Rishi,

sure, but everything has some compromises...and if some release had the best of everything, then it would cost a fortune.

Canon has invested in it's glass in recent years like no other manufacturer. The 24-70 II will get a 39 P-Mpix rating on a 5dsr where the Nikon 24-70 only score 21 P-MPix on a D810 and would only project to have 29 P-MPix on a theoretical 50 mpxl sony sensor. The Nikon 70-200 f2.8 has focus breathing and at short range the 200 mm end only gives 135 mm -- yikes. Follow Tony Northrups videos - the Canon 7d2 sensor keeps up with the latest and best crop sensors in high iso -- hi iso is key parameter. Also in one of his latest videos he rates 5dsr as the winner over the nikon d810. These are not checksheet videos - but side by side demos. I challenge DPR to do side by side videos for their reviews of REAL use cases.

Direct link | Posted on Jun 7, 2015 at 03:58 UTC
On Nikon D7200 Review preview (525 comments in total)
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redhed17: “…Nikon shooters have been awaiting the arrival of a D400, or some kind of replacement for the D300S. We think that camera is the D7200. It offers the same continuous shooting performance as the D300S (but now at 24MP) while adding a significantly better AF system …. Build quality isn't quite in the same league but practically speaking it's very close.”
So at the 3rd time of asking Nikon has not matched the 6 year old D300S in fps without using a crop mode, is still not as fast as the D300S with the grip, and is still not a ‘Pro’ body. But Canon have raised the bar (for fps at least) by the 7DII, and yet DPReview consider the D7200 a good replacement for the D300S. :-/
Canon are more likely to get my money, as they have actually brought out a ‘Pro’/Enthusiast camera. Nikon seem to have ceded that sector, because the D7200 is on a par with the 70D, not the 7DII. And it is certainly not a proper successor to the D300S. Imho.
Keep following the Nikon party line though DPReview.

@redhed17

exactamundo - Nikon never built the d400 - with 10 fps - to reach down the field

Direct link | Posted on Jun 7, 2015 at 03:45 UTC
On Nikon D7200 Review preview (525 comments in total)
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redhed17: “…Nikon shooters have been awaiting the arrival of a D400, or some kind of replacement for the D300S. We think that camera is the D7200. It offers the same continuous shooting performance as the D300S (but now at 24MP) while adding a significantly better AF system …. Build quality isn't quite in the same league but practically speaking it's very close.”
So at the 3rd time of asking Nikon has not matched the 6 year old D300S in fps without using a crop mode, is still not as fast as the D300S with the grip, and is still not a ‘Pro’ body. But Canon have raised the bar (for fps at least) by the 7DII, and yet DPReview consider the D7200 a good replacement for the D300S. :-/
Canon are more likely to get my money, as they have actually brought out a ‘Pro’/Enthusiast camera. Nikon seem to have ceded that sector, because the D7200 is on a par with the 70D, not the 7DII. And it is certainly not a proper successor to the D300S. Imho.
Keep following the Nikon party line though DPReview.

" if you're suggesting we only should've rated it as a pro sports camera, then we respectfully disagree with you."

I'm suggesting DPR think "artist's brush" and that they should think outside their own checklist box on summary ratings based on important real use cases - I would have added to the review the gold award emblem that as a sports camera, with the wealth of the valuable canon glass system that the 7d2 does not have a near pro sports rival for under $2000 and it gives the down field reach with less expensive sports glass which nicely supplements as a second body the pro FF 1dx body. And I would have said - we bet Nikon sports photographers wish they had the d400 that Nikon never built to supplement their pro FF sports body.

"those action photographers who routinely have blown skies"

...this hasn't happened in 8000+ sports shots

"Pinpoint an eye with a wide fast prime? No way."

major sports use other AF features for this.

carry a $500 A6000 for DR instead of d7200

Direct link | Posted on Jun 7, 2015 at 03:33 UTC
On Nikon D7200 Review preview (525 comments in total)
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redhed17: “…Nikon shooters have been awaiting the arrival of a D400, or some kind of replacement for the D300S. We think that camera is the D7200. It offers the same continuous shooting performance as the D300S (but now at 24MP) while adding a significantly better AF system …. Build quality isn't quite in the same league but practically speaking it's very close.”
So at the 3rd time of asking Nikon has not matched the 6 year old D300S in fps without using a crop mode, is still not as fast as the D300S with the grip, and is still not a ‘Pro’ body. But Canon have raised the bar (for fps at least) by the 7DII, and yet DPReview consider the D7200 a good replacement for the D300S. :-/
Canon are more likely to get my money, as they have actually brought out a ‘Pro’/Enthusiast camera. Nikon seem to have ceded that sector, because the D7200 is on a par with the 70D, not the 7DII. And it is certainly not a proper successor to the D300S. Imho.
Keep following the Nikon party line though DPReview.

Rishi,

Ask 100 pro sports photographers what they think about 10 fps vs 6 or 7!
Then you'll know what disingenuous is!

Canon knows what fps means to pro sports photographers. That's why they put 12 fps in their 1dx and charge $6000 for it.

It's disingenous to think pro sports photographers care about DR at low ISO - sports shooting is mostly at higher. ISO where DR is not a toshiba sensor advantage.

Btw - do real world tests of the tracking in real sports situations where it can be useful. Jack M showed 90%+ hit rate on skiers coming off a ramp jump

Direct link | Posted on Jun 7, 2015 at 00:17 UTC
On Nikon D7200 Review preview (525 comments in total)
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redhed17: “…Nikon shooters have been awaiting the arrival of a D400, or some kind of replacement for the D300S. We think that camera is the D7200. It offers the same continuous shooting performance as the D300S (but now at 24MP) while adding a significantly better AF system …. Build quality isn't quite in the same league but practically speaking it's very close.”
So at the 3rd time of asking Nikon has not matched the 6 year old D300S in fps without using a crop mode, is still not as fast as the D300S with the grip, and is still not a ‘Pro’ body. But Canon have raised the bar (for fps at least) by the 7DII, and yet DPReview consider the D7200 a good replacement for the D300S. :-/
Canon are more likely to get my money, as they have actually brought out a ‘Pro’/Enthusiast camera. Nikon seem to have ceded that sector, because the D7200 is on a par with the 70D, not the 7DII. And it is certainly not a proper successor to the D300S. Imho.
Keep following the Nikon party line though DPReview.

@Rishi,
The 7d2 is designed for high fps and sports. In 8000 shots I've had little use for DR more than its 11.8. It has the reach and the fps and the 65 cross type. If one wants landscape shots and a bit more DR, one can spend on the order of 1/2 the d7200 to get those still life shots. The Canon sports glass is better too. d7200 deserves silver; 7d2 deserves gold since it is the only pro sports body below $2000. Whereas, lots of options for more DR for less than the d7200 if low iso DR and scapes is your thing

Direct link | Posted on Jun 6, 2015 at 22:17 UTC
On Nikon D7200 Review preview (525 comments in total)
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redhed17: “…Nikon shooters have been awaiting the arrival of a D400, or some kind of replacement for the D300S. We think that camera is the D7200. It offers the same continuous shooting performance as the D300S (but now at 24MP) while adding a significantly better AF system …. Build quality isn't quite in the same league but practically speaking it's very close.”
So at the 3rd time of asking Nikon has not matched the 6 year old D300S in fps without using a crop mode, is still not as fast as the D300S with the grip, and is still not a ‘Pro’ body. But Canon have raised the bar (for fps at least) by the 7DII, and yet DPReview consider the D7200 a good replacement for the D300S. :-/
Canon are more likely to get my money, as they have actually brought out a ‘Pro’/Enthusiast camera. Nikon seem to have ceded that sector, because the D7200 is on a par with the 70D, not the 7DII. And it is certainly not a proper successor to the D300S. Imho.
Keep following the Nikon party line though DPReview.

http://www.dxomark.com/Cameras/Compare/Side-by-side/Canon-EOS-7D-Mark-II-versus-Nikon-D7200___977_1020

7d2 - 11.8 ev not 11; go up in iso where fps is used, and gap is narrowed; high fps is used in sports, not landscapes where dr matters more; where higher fps is used, higher iso is typically needed. I have 8000+ sports shots on 7d2 with its great exposure system and great 65 cross types and great af system and have yet to need more dynamic range in sports shooting. No way would I sacrifice fps, 65 cross types, bit depth, or mpxls, for low iso dr in sports shooting. 7d2 is pro and gold for sports shooting compared to enthusiast d7200. For af video, canon 7d2 and 70d also lead.

Direct link | Posted on Jun 4, 2015 at 11:07 UTC
On Nikon D7200 Review preview (525 comments in total)
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redhed17: “…Nikon shooters have been awaiting the arrival of a D400, or some kind of replacement for the D300S. We think that camera is the D7200. It offers the same continuous shooting performance as the D300S (but now at 24MP) while adding a significantly better AF system …. Build quality isn't quite in the same league but practically speaking it's very close.”
So at the 3rd time of asking Nikon has not matched the 6 year old D300S in fps without using a crop mode, is still not as fast as the D300S with the grip, and is still not a ‘Pro’ body. But Canon have raised the bar (for fps at least) by the 7DII, and yet DPReview consider the D7200 a good replacement for the D300S. :-/
Canon are more likely to get my money, as they have actually brought out a ‘Pro’/Enthusiast camera. Nikon seem to have ceded that sector, because the D7200 is on a par with the 70D, not the 7DII. And it is certainly not a proper successor to the D300S. Imho.
Keep following the Nikon party line though DPReview.

10fps, pro af and build, and 65 cross types is pro and big in the 7d2

Direct link | Posted on Jun 4, 2015 at 03:39 UTC
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