yonsarh: p610 vs p900 which is better for aviation photography ?
yudi: If it is not a small camera, why could Nikon put a APS-C sensor in it?
It's already the same size/weight as the Fz1000.So if you want a bigger sensor and a more useful camera that can actually take proper pictures buy that panasonic instead.
Astrotripper: "We also want to add some more reasonably-priced lenses for entry-level users, similar to the 45mm F1.8 - we’re looking into this now. "
Yeah, that'd be nice, but I wonder if it's not too late for that. MFT has already earned a reputation for being on the expensive side, at least in some regions. Excluding body caps, 45/1.8 and 17/2.8 are the only affordable primes here. From zoom lenses, 40-150 is the only good value proposition. All other lenses are either expensive (some rightly so) or just ridiculously overpriced.
And there's still no middle ground zoom in MFT. You either stay with the kit lens, or have to pay serious money for large and heavy f/2.8 PRO zoom. I still can't understand why we don't have a f/2.8-4.0 zoom.
True bima the canon is a very cheaply built lens with noisy AF.
The Nikon 50mm f1.8g on the other hand does compare.
Mescalamba: Well, A7s paired with OM lens is pretty compact and light.
So why cant Olympus make that?
Becouse with sony's electronics expertise combined with the zuiko and zeiss optics. And olympus styling/ergonomics would be able to outmatch any competing brand on the market.
Imagine em-1 like body, with a 36 mp fullframe sensor, with old school om styled lenses with autofocus.
On the video side the sony Xavc s codec. Peaking zebra's all added in. Nothing would be able to touch that mirrorless.
emersonik: DPReview should educate its readers about the implications of higher MP count and to whom it would be useful.
If high MP were so universally important, why the kinds of 1Ds and D4s do exist?
And why does the d810 exist then?Or why did Canon announce a 50mp fullframe body.
Because different photographic demands exist.The d4s is made for speed. Large files with high megapixels will only slow it down.
Besides there is no time when shooting fast action to achieve optimal image quality with perfect lighting remote shutter releases with the camera rock steady tripods.
Doesn't mean there is no demand for higher resolution sensors that can shine brighter in better lighting conditions at a slower pace.
Andreas Balko: I am very astonished, that the discussion about megapixel and fullframe is so hyped from dpreview.It seem, that high megapixel is a question of image quality, but it is a question of print width.And how often do you need a print with of 70 cm?Also it seem, that there is a big difference between 16 megapixel and 24 megapixel, but in reality, this makes only a few centimetres.Please stop to kid us.Andreas
PS: With a Sony A7 fullframe 24 MP I have a print width of 50,8 centimetres at 300 dpi.And with my OM-D E-M5 I mft and "only" 16 MP I have a print width of 39,01 centimetres.What a huge benefit in terms of print width ;-)But the standard zoom of the Sony A7 has only f4. And my Olympus 12-40 has f 2,8 at nearly the same size!
normalize for print. the Sony has 24mp.you don't have more DOF. you just don't have the option to have less at the gain of extra light. Since you can stop down a fullframe more without loss of diffraction or noise from using higher ISO's
That's all there is to it really.
It also works the other way. If you need the larger depth of field a larger sensor will not yield better results apart from a slight gain in resolution. But in general will cost much more.
The A7 can use a ISO 2 stops higher without additional noise compared to the Olympus due to it's larger sensor.It can also create thinner depth of field with th F4 lens compared to your olympus.
End of the day the A7 will outperform the olympus at all levels with a F4 lens. And it's still nearly the same size.
Tonio Loewald: The ISO 2000 shots look awful. For comparison I looked for another recently reviewed camera's sample shots and tried the OM-D EM-5II — which looks better at ISO6400 than the Samsung does at 2000 (and with a smaller sensor).
It's impressive that Samsung is building out its own camera platform from top-to-bottom (sensors, bodies, lenses) — something only Canon and Sony really match — but at least for now they seem to continue to be lagging Sony in sensor tech. (The OM-D is using a Sony sensor AFAIK.)
Panasonic did make rather dramatic improvements with their sensor technology with the gx7 and later thw gh4(gh3 used sony sensor)
But i would be the last saying it's better then a recent sony/toshiba/samsung design.
I think in terms of effeciency they are all close(except for canon)But the larger sensor will remain better(unless.Canon)
Michael Ma: All these comments below hating on Samsung because they are now making great cameras that produce some flawless images. Tsk tsk. Hating on Samsung doesn't make your favorite antiquated camera any better.
The question is was it too much to ask from this relatively cheap mirrorless camera?
Nikon isn't offering 4k at all.Canon starts at 8k(1dc)Panasonic ilc with 4k is arround 1400 these days.There are cheaper options but these don't take different lenses. Which dramatically decreases the versatility or quality(First for lx100 the latter for the fz1000)
As long as Samsung markets this weakness i do not see the problem. But that may be an issue.
JoanSt: I received my NX500 today and compared with my Canon camera's (5D Mk III, EOS M,...) it has so much more interesting features. Unfortunately, the reason I bought it, was for the 4K video and that is, as others mentioned here, unusable due to the crop factor. Therefore, I will return the camera tomorrow.
I wonder if a firmware update could fix this issue? I am sure Samsung cannot deny their customers and their griefs about the 4K video? Question is: can it be solved by software, or is the processor too weak to resize 28Mp to 4K resolution? If Samsung can resolve it, I will immediately buy the camera again.
For now, the NX1 seems to be the best choice for 4K video shooting, until an affordable 4K capable Canon or Nikon camera is announced, but that will be after this summer, if even in 2015?
If you need more there are f0.95lenses available in m43 mount specifically with video in mind.
DoF is no issue with the gh4. If you really want shallow. Then a7s with a atomos shogun is the way to go.
Peiasdf: Looking forward to GX8. All the features of E-M5 II + better video for $500 less. It is really amazing how much Olympus users are willing to pay for the Olympus name.
It's good but not that good.The em-1 is a tornado proof the gx7 isn't even splash proof.The em-1 has a better larger faster viewfinder.Has a more effective ibis systemAnd last but not least tracks moving subjects better.
The gx7 is smaller lighter and comes with pretty much all the goodies you would ever need. I took it over the em-5 for the shutter and ergonomics.( base iso 200 and 1/4000th max shutter can be a bit limiting shooting fast primes).
i bought one and have seen just 2 in the wild.
WanderingEYE: Pretty much useless as a stills camera with only 12 MP.Must be some kind of inverted snobbishness at work here, an "exclusive" camera for artists perhaps?Not even real 4k.The NX1 is a much better movie making tool, it has a touch screen too which is particularly useful for documentary shooting in unpredictable situations.
"The NX1 is a much better movie making tool"highly debateable.
Dimit: Silver award is fair as it is just a minor evolution of EM5...Needless to say-but I do!!-it is expensive as Olympus always does.You can get A7 with the same money!!!
Which is probably due to it's being replaced by a very popular mirrorless with a great new feature.
5 axis Ibis on a fullframe mirrorless allows some great things with legacy lenses. Especially with all the nice aids mirrorless camera's give us in the viewfinder.
The old stock of A7 bodies has to go. And to be honest if your looking for something like that you'd be dump to skip the chance.
This sensor is better then anything Canon has to offer at the moment. And at 1 grand it's just a steal.
GabrielZ: Only a Silver award then. A little surprised by that. I think its that old-hat sensor, the same as the original E-M5 I think, together with its relatively high price compared to the competition, that's influenced the reviewers here maybe?
The XE-2 has on sensor phase detect much like the XT-1.It does a fair job for a mirrorless. and i doubt it will be worse with the firmware updates then this em5 II.
Now video on the other hand........It's better to pretend that the fujifilm doesn't shoot video at all honestly.
PlaKen: Why is dpreview so anti-mirrorless and/or anti-Oly?
Check the following review:http://cameras.reviewed.com/content/olympus-om-d-e-m5-mark-ii-digital-camera-review
No i am not.The 36mp does mean even with a cheap decent prime the Nikon wil outresolve lower megapixel fullframe bodies.
You fail to see that it can be beneficial even without Sigma Art lenses. But those Art lenses do obviously make the sensor shine even brighter.
now with a proper 50mm lens. Which is funnily enough 3rd party the Canon resolves just as much detailhttp://www.dxomark.com/Lenses/Compare/Side-by-side/EF50mm-f-1.2L-USM-on-Canon-EOS-5D-Mark-III-versus-Nikon-AF-S-Nikkor-50mm-F18G-on-Nikon-D810-versus-Sigma-50mm-F14-DG-HSM-A-Canon-on-Canon-EOS-5D-Mark-III___197_795_435_963_1306_795
yes the D810 with a 50mm f1.8 G does outperform the 5d mk3 with a 50mm f1.2 L lens.
But then the F1.2L is nothing special really and the 50mm F1.8g does kick a long way above it's price.
They are not negative here.They just state that the current mirrorless market is highly competitive and that some brands have overtaken the em-5 camera in some ways. Which makes this a less straight forwar recommendation then it's predecessor was. Even when Olympus did everything they could here.
My opinion Olympus did everything they could. And made a great body with great features. But they don't make their own sensors. And that is where they are now falling behind their peers.
Skipper494: No comparison to higher resolution APS-C offerings from Sony and Samsung.
7 upvotes.man this part is loaded with a very loyal Olympus fanbase.