Eugene232: I wish it had a X100 design..
Plastic vs magnesium
And a step back in build quality.......
Paul Verhoeven: "4K Pre-burst records 60 images right before or after release of the shutter."
The camera is constantly recording in 4k 30fps.
The moment you press the shutter it still has 30/frames before you pressed it stored in the buffer. Which will then be written to your memory card.
Very clever trick but it will probably have a.significant impact on battery life
mediasorcerer: So what video looks better, 4k from a mft sensor, or 1080p from a ff sensor, just wondering anyone?
Same as gx7.It's good for a M43 camera.The new fujifilm will take better stills.
I have an XE-2 and my girlffreind now shoots my previous gx7.The fujifilm has greater detail and less noise.but the difference isn't big and the G7 will probably focus faster and has more cheaper lenses available
Prairie Pal: This is a line of camera for people who are focused on what they want to record and capable of picking the appropriate tool palette. Their creativity and signature styles thrive on a degree of minimalism.Having every focal length covered and being ready for every luminance is the furthest thing from their mind. If that is not you then stop worrying about it. This camera is not for you and nobody is forcing you to use it.
Sigma already publicly said that they loose money making camera's.
But the technology inside the camera's helps them make better lenses. Wich is a profitable branch of sigma.
tabloid: Sensor is half the size of full frame....hmmm
The diagonal of the the sensor is half the size.
Video quality depends on many thingsThe Codec pixel binning line skipping. Then the Sensor itself how does it perform. does it get hot. does it create more noise while it's getting hot.
Then where is being used. In low light? fullframe will have it's advantage. brighter conditions this will be less important.
Then can the lenses resolve enough detail to make use of the 4k recording. well you get the point too many variables.
We do know 1 thing though. The GH4 already kicked way above it's sensor size in terms of video quality. expect this to do the same.
onlooker: So does anyone know for sure which generation sensor this is? Is it the same as GX7?
They said Gf7which is the same as the Gx7
Paul Verhoeven: Is 4k video from full sensor (width at least) or from a small crop in the middle?
your calculations are off but i was too lazy getting it form eos HD
Fullframe 3:2 has a diagonal of ¹(36*36+24*24)=43.27mm
Gh4 16:9 is a bit more complicated4608/3840=1.217.3/1.2=14.42mm wide3456/2160=1.613/1.6=8.125mm tall
43.27/16.56=2.6x crop compared to 3:2 fullframe41.8/16.56 =2.52x crop compared to 16:9 fullframe
Wallace Ross: I'm just curious but as an outsider to Micro Four Thirds do others not find it confusing keeping track of what cameras came when. Even for just one manufacturer.
There is a GX7,GF7 and now a G7 none of which share a form factor or necessary relate to each other other than the lens mount.
So if it has no letter it looks more like an SLR if it has a X its a mid grade small camera and if it has an F it's the low end model? And an H is the high end model?
1. SL1 small Dslr2. T5 Crappiest Dslr for unknowing beginners3. T3i,T4i,T5i,T6i,T6s all amateur Dslr's4. 70d 60d enthousiast semi-pro5. 7d mk2 Pro built
They have 5 lines not including fullframe.Well 4 the T5 is no line. That thing shouldn't exist
Allen Yang: I used to like Panasonic, but the skintone of indoor portraits and high ISO noise were hideous! I took a picture of my aunt in a restaurant and showed her the pic. What a horrible mistake, she almost killed me! Her face looked sort of purple in that picture. By the way, the camera I used back then was a Panasonic LX3.
allen they have.Check the images made by the Panasonic Gx7.This shares that sensor and they serious improvements with that model nearly 2 years ago.
Experience of the old compact LX3 is not relevant here.
Eugene232: don't understand why mirrorless cameras getting bigger and bigger..The mirrorless idea is -to have a DSLR IQ in a smaller body/
This camera is also designed to handle well.The viewfinder is close in size to what you see on a fullframe Dslr.Larger then every Apsc Dslr. That includes the D7200 and 7d mk2.
Then a camera that's used in a serious way needs physical controls. This according to cameralab has 7 customizeable physical buttens. It has to be a certain size to not feel cramped with all those buttons.
Panasonic does make one of the smallest most minimalistic camera's in the mirrorless market. The GM-1 is still available.
The Davinator: Same image quality as my X-Pro1. Time for a new sensor.
It's been quiet a while indeed. But i just can't fault the detail that comes out of these xtrans sensor with their XF lenses.
they should indeed move on. But that's for the read-out limitation.Puch in to focus yields a very unsharp image. which is harder to manual focus with then with my m43 camera.
video quality out of my XE-2 is in 1 word atrocious. I just pretend that it doesn't shoot video:-D.
A newer sensor with faster read-out. A full electronic shutter option will be very welcome indeed. The image quality is still fine.
what's wrong with the XE-2 then?
Mirfak: General quesion for users. If for technical reasons you had to choose between IBIS and all of the 4K functionality, which would you pick?
Some people don't care for video on a stills camera.IBIS does help for these people especially when using the popular 45mm F1.8 that people already have in their inventory.
I can understand they don't want to replace that small gem with the 42.5mm F1.8 with OIS if they can help it.
Now for video enthusiasts this will be the only viable camera at this price-point. All others pale in comparison.
MarkJack of all trades master of none
onlooker: Long overdue. I just hope the changed body retains the superb ergonomics of the G6. I fear because every time Panasonic improves one thing in the G* line, it screws up something else.
There are noticeable differences: http://camerasize.com/compare/#455,621
True onlooker i loved the g6 grip and it's layout.Never bought one because of the dated sensor. The gx7 was a morr appealing option to me
It's probably a 1:1 crop like the gh4.
I believe it was 2.3* crop so it's not too bad
neurosoul: sounds like a great camera..but why why why no head phone jack? I would pay the extra 50.00 for them to include the headphone jack...serious video requires you to know what is going into your camera after the mic and mixer.
I don't get that exclusion....
Unfortunately your not mistaken.
External recording is a possibility. But that requires more time that could be spent elsewhere.
Fair enough i can't think of any camera at this price that does have a headphone jack. But with the.4k capability it sure would've been extremely useful
Jim Hully: This is presented as an enthusiast's camera yet here in the US we are forced to buy it with a lens? No body-only options for us "rich mugs"? I'm annoyed at Panny for doing the same with the GM-5. And please don't tell me I can sell the lens.
Go to a camerastore and ask them to take the new kit-lens.
They may be able to bundle it with another body or sell it like new. You might get a decebt discount