dka91: The question Im wondering is...will the AF assist light work on any of the MILC versions of this flash.
@Absolutic Yes I agree that the flash of light is annoying, but....that is literally likely the best we will get for MILC, and I think it is still needed on the flash because if can be obstructed on the body when big lenses are attached.
Btw I think I misunderstood you before. When you said AF assist beam is not possible on MILC flashes you meant strictly the IR grid pattern thing I presume? Which was correct, I thought you meant having the af assist light (like on the body) wasn't possible, but it seems obvious now thats not what you meant. My bad :D
Hmm yes for 3rd party manufacturers it might be more tricky.But I dunno if it would be that hard for them.
I mean considering Sony seem to easily put it on alot of their bodies; even the fairly budget a6000 has one, I can't buy into the fact that it would be remotely hard for them atleast to set one up in their flashes, even if it is harder for 3rd party companies.
On Samsung, the beam on the flash was identical to the one of the body, and tbh I didn't notice any patterns on it, as I do with the grid looking one when using a DSLR.
It just seemed like a flash of light with high contrast to aid focus, nothing overly complicated.
Of course I could be wrong, but at the very least seeing as Sony have already done it in their bodies, they really could readily put one in their flash units, or design a flash specifically for their mirrorless range.
Fair enough Absolutic the AF assist light designed for DSLR will not work on mirrorless, but your implication in your previous comment was much stronger, which is why you got the responses.
Af assist on flashes will most definitely work with MILC if it is designed to, and my annoyance has been with the exception of Samsung the rest of the manufacturers have been too lazy to design the mirrorless versions of their flashes with that af beam (albeit they would have to design a different beam for each mirrorless mount which might be why they can't be bothered).
But even the companys who created the mounts ie. Sony haven't bothered to make flashes that are fully designed to work with their mirrorless range ie, there no af assist light....and it would be easy to do for them.
Thanks for replies.....perhaps Im reading your replies incorrectly but you're both wrong it is possible.
I used to own the Samsung NX30 and its purpose built Samsung SEF580a flash (just a rebadged Metz 52 af1) and it had an af assist beam on it that worked with the camera, and ofcourse the Samsung nx mount is mirrorless. If you don't believe me you can google it.
Granted the AF assist light on flashes built for DSLR cameras and its on mirror PDAF WILL NOT work on MILC. But af assist beams on flashes built for MILC focus systems will work.
The question Im wondering is...will the AF assist light work on any of the MILC versions of this flash.
straylightrun: Does the AF assist lamp in the external flash work with af assist in low light? As far as I know there isnt a single mirrorless system that has a fully compatible external flash that can use an external af assist beam with the body.
Actually Samsung flashes have an AF assit light on the flash and it seems to be the only mirrorless system to have it, albeit Samsung may be exiting the mirrorless game, a shame really, they have excellent lenses and one of the best apsc bodies.
I definately think Mirrorless is where we are going, but the "when" is a bit harder to predict. The Sony bodies are almost there (apart from AF, which is getting closer), but they don't have the lenses there for pros to switch....yet. Once the 2.8 zooms start rolling out and the AF has caught up there'd be little reason to stay with a DSLR. Remember mirrorless bodies can be shaped into anything, and to be able to have a single system with large bodies for pro work, but small bodies and pancakes for fun is an exciting prospect.
Exciting times ahead!
BeaverTerror: Mirrorless is the official term now? So instead of choosing a term which describes the camera, they have moronically chosen a term describing what the camera does not have. One day DSLRS will be a nostalgic memory and we will still be stuck with "mirrorless". Same situation as clipless bicycle pedals.
It is safe to say G1Houston killed this argument with "wireless".
mediasorcerer: So the a6000 is 1 mark less than the nx1 @ dxo, 82 v 83.And its 1/3 the price. And smaller and lighter.a7r blows the samsung away [95v83] and its 2- 300$ more, hmmm.Too overpriced for nx1- no wonder its not selling very well.The lenses for nx-1 are Huge too.for the same price as nx1 and lens, you can have sony ff a7/r and lens.Or body only either one give or take 100 odd dollars.hmmmm.If you own an a6000 you got value for money, not so much with nx1 though.Highly overpriced.
Well I suppose numbers are a useful guide but they aren't everything, and of course this is only the sensor.
Im sure you don't need me to explain why the Nx1 costs more than the a6000, and you know full well that the DXO scores are sensor based only. It is the same reason the original 7D cost much more than the 550D even though the had the same sensor. If your argument holds, then every manufacturer is "overpricing" their top of the line APSCs.
Not to mention the a6000 and a7r have both been out much longer than the NX1 and have therefore received a higher fall in price due to this.