Greg Gebhardt: But will it run my Windows software? I tried their latest and greatest and it installed quickbooks just fine but when I tried to open my 250gb company file, it brought the Surface Pro 2 to it's knees.
I would very much like to replace my notebook with this but will it do what I need?
Yep - Poor trolling and/or research on behalf of the user. SPOT ON !!
WhiteSwan: I still wouldn't trade my MacBook Pro with it's 16 gig of RAM for this.
So you reckon that this Surface Pro3 would likely be considerably better than the decent processor spec Lenovo Yoga devices ? This is encouraging indeed.
Ditto what you said (Surface2 RT is great when I do not need to run Photoshop or other specific programs). Sitting on the sofa and using the screen and/or Bluetooth keyboard and mouse ... I'll often grab Surface over my i7 8GB RAM 128 GB SSD Dell XPS laptop (overkill unless I am at a desk / hooked up to my calibrated external IPS monitor).
WilliamJ: Funnily, I've just bought a new laptop today. And guess what ? It's that new machine's diametric opposite. How one can reasonably do serious photo processing on such a little screen (12" !). How about the heat after some hours of work (can one work with it more than 30mn before getting an eye ache anyway) ? Is that computer cooled by super-compact liquid nitrogen cells ? 8GB of RAM at best ? Humm, ok for little files like a bunch of standard jpeg, but I'm not sure it can be enough for a large group of big Tiff to be displayed and worked on. And I even don't speak about the keyboard that seems not so effective for a "super" fast typing. I feel that Microsoft desperately have been trying for some times now to drag us from serious computers to "light and fun" machines. What a weird trend !
I'll second this.
The Pro is an amazing bit of kit ... more so when you can easily:
* attach to monitor or HD TV via Mini Display Port > HMDI / DVI / VGA.* use a Bluetooth keyboard and mouse WITHOUT having to rob the only USB port with a dongle.* use a (powered) USB Hub to plug in numerous USB devices all at once* make use of a battery time that is approx 2 to 4+ times that of an less so / equally powerful larger laptop. (If Surface Pro 2 enabled a battery running time of roughly twice that of the 1st one, this 3rd one promises a fantastic 'real world' run time with i3 chip and 8GB of RAM - assuming i3 chip uses LESS battery than i5).
notnaff: Great device for on the road/long term travel photo editing. Stylus support & USB 3 for backups.
The Surface Pro2 or Pro3 may not be cheap, but there is NOTHING quite like them in terms of overall capabilities, form factor and speed.
They need to be marketed better though + the ones with smaller SSDs need to be cheaper, as £799 is a ridiculous 'entry' point. Seeing that many are over £1,000 ... this puts it into Lenovo Yoga i3/i5 and above territory (and similar devices).
At Currys/PCWorld ... where I currently work (well my last day is this Friday!) ... I have sold maybe 100-200+ Surface and Surface2 (RT) tablets. In comparison I think I have sold only 3 or 4 Pro tablets (maybe 2 or 3 even). Doing a sales pitch on an outgoing Surface RT 64GB (£259) or Surface 2 RT 64GB (£439) ... and using the 'included £220 worth of Office Home & Business' line = great. The current Pro2 at £799 proves too much for most ... even before you break it to them that the Pro versions DON'T include any Office! I'm not sure they include 200GB of Cloud for 2 years or Skype Wi-Fi either ! :(
CameraLabTester: This could be the tipping point of MS to bounce into the game if they play it right.
Yes it would be nice if you could:
* replace the battery (most important)
* put a new larger/faster SSD in (less important, seeing that a modern existing SSD will reach a point where the performance speed will NOT slow down any more ... even when nearly totally 'full' - at least 'full' in terms of everything but the amount of space left that is partitioned off so that the SSD can intelligently delete and recover 'used/deleted' sectors.
However - the trend in the last few years has (unfortunately for those that are technically more savvy) become geared towards making people think that a device is disposable. When the battery gets weaker, they'd rather you simply buy the newer, slightly better, even thinner version.
So the point I am making is - who out there DOES still allow the user to replace battery or HDD/SSD in these ultra thin ultrabooks or tablets ?? I cannot think of any.
SeeRoy: Unfortunately I bought an SP2 128 last November. In a nutshell it's a complete Piece Of Sh!t. Now I know why they slashed the prices last week, adding insult to injury. Now a further injury... I just hope the SP3 is as bad as its predecessors and holes Microsoft below the waterline. Vist the "support" site for an overview of the spectacular range of faults exhibited by these overpriced, unreliable, ill-conceived piles of junk.Buy a budget tablet and a decent ultrabook or laptop at the same price. As a tablet the SP range is simply tragic.
Yep - What I thought too.
Surface RT and Surface Pro models have not been without their software n hardware problems at times though. The original Surface2 RT device I purchased, immediately showed the (black screen whilst actually 'on') problem that I have since seen and heard about on others. The button the wakes and sleeps the screen sometimes fails to bring the screen back on ... yet you know device is 'on' because the backlight is faintly 'still on' with the otherwise nearly 'off black' screen + when you press the Windows logo under the screen there is the tactile 'buzz' haptic feedback. I got this happen to me on my replacement Surface2 this morning (but unlike before - it went after a long 10+secs press of the on/off button ... and reboot was successful, with 'Surface' showing on screen as is correct after switch on.
Is it just me - or are there more trolls and the sort of people that don't know their MBs from their GBs here today ?? LOL
MrTaikitso: 64GB of SSD in 2014 is pathetic. I'm using 1TB of SSD on my MB Pro 15", and will need more in a year. I had 256GB on my excellent MB Air 13", but filled it up in a year too before getting the MBP.
What are MS thinking? Where are people going to store all their images? (I keep all my content locally AND in the cloud, for peace of mind.)
@BarnET: Don't get me started on how stupid it is to have 'Pro' badged devices from Microsoft , Samsung and others, that continue NOT to offer a (Mac speed fast) full sized SD slot. STUPID!More so when they have very high resolution screens that make them even more useful as a photographers device of choice!
Biowizard: Brilliant! Am I the only one looking forward to "iPad Pro" - now about 99% more likely this year than before!
As I type this on my (£15) Bluetooth connected keyboard ... I can confirm that the Surface2 (RT) is a very decent, fast and clutter free device. I have massively warmed to RT (especially as a 2nd or 3rd device for an IT-savvy user OR as a "don't get into trouble" one for people that are not requiring the (totally unlocked) "load any software" that the Pro provides). Giving away £220 worth of Office Home & Business software on the RT versions is a killer feature. NOT providing at least the same on the very costly PRO versions is really stupid IMHO.-My laptop is a blazingly fast i7 Dell XPS laptop with 8GB RAM and a recent spec (SATA 3 speed capable) 128GB SSD drive. It also has a nice HD screen.As I have had the laptop for a few years now, the battery performance is getting shorter + this is just a minor reason why I often prefer to grab theh Surface2 64GB (which my daughter uses a lot too) or even the reduced £price original Surface 64GB that I recently got for my wife.
@ John H in TC: You have obviously never been shown the Windows 8 OS on a laptop or All-in-one with a touchscreen then !! I AGREE that on a NON-touchscreen, that W8 is much more of a nonsense vs W7. That disappears with touchscreen hardware though IMHO.
notnaff: Does it have full SD card slot? The MS site doesn't mention full SD only micro SD
"Photographers (WILL NOT) appreciate the MICRO SD slot" .... You would clearly NOT be a moderately serious photographer if you believed even half-decent cameras had memory cards smaller than full SD size!Maybe you can edit your lazily written article to correct this then ?-*NB - Even after DECADES (unlike Mac Laptops which can do up to 100 MB/s transfers) all Microsoft running hardware seems incapable of providing a fast transfer speed, where the hardware DOES have a full size SD slot. At least with this tablet device (and with Surface 2 and Surface Pro2 btw), you have a FULL SIZE USB 3.0 port that you can plug your SD/HC/XC card reader into ... and get at least nearer to speeds that MacBook Air etc can achieve with full size SD slots.
hotdog321: Unexpected, but I'm dying to see the DxO Lab results on the new 16-35 f/4. If it is truly sharp, I'll be relegating my 16-35 f/2.8 version 1 to backup service. I'm a photojournalist and usually stop down a bit anyway when using the 16-35 and, combined with the IS and the low light capabilities of the 5DIII, this new lens might be a winner. We'll see.
You COULDN'T care less.
If you COULD care less ... that would imply that your level of care with regards to the DxO lab results was NOT at that of rock bottom. Every time someone from the USA uses this phrase in an incorrect way, I cringe.
@Karroly: NO NO and NO !! Wrong! ... This is an EXCELLENT frame that shows where the focus was placed and also how nice the bokeh / out of focus is or isn't. If only ALL the pictures in this sequence (generally very good mix) ... were as REAL WORLD USEFUL in other reviews. Your requested 'flat' shots tell little or nothing for meaningful ability. I simply HATE the 'test chart' type of test shots. Bravo - more low light shots at high ISO like this one please !!! AMEN
tongki: this is totally backward,Canon already has EF 24-105mm f/4 and now provide EF 24-70mm f/4,and we don't need stupid IS on wide lenses !!!
it really slowing it down !!!I don't like using IS on wide lenses, that is stupid idea !
I agree that IS can be very very useful (but I'd nearly always want another stop of light instead with my existing light people photography.
Oh and btw ... watch the video ...
Rory Lambert: Secretly the 6D is a PRO camera! The marketing is aimed to increase sales among non-pros, but pro shooters (and smart students) will snap these things up!
Two major markets that people are ignoring here: Serious Photo Students and High-End DSLR Video shooters.
1. Serious Photo Students (or self teaching photographers). Not just any photo student, but the ones that buy a beaten full frame body so they get their image quality and still have money for prime lenses. Lighting is natural or off camera flash. Think landscapes and portraits.
2. High-End DSLR Video shooters. Full Frame image quality is key. When a 50mm lens on a full size chip leans towards telephoto you tend to hate it if your 14, 20, 24, and 35mm primes loose their powers.
Focus is 99% manual. I could care less if the thing can auto focus at all. The amount of pro video work shot on the MKII would shock people. I'm talking Discovery Channel, Nat Geo, BBC, commercial work ect.
Lower-megapixel + full chip = IMAGE QUALITY.
QUOTE: "I could care less if the thing can auto focus at all."
Please play the video ... and ABSORB !!!
garyknrd: Actually as a birder I could care less. I am waiting on the 7D mark ll. Or what Nikon has to offer. Both are neglecting that market. What will be interesting is if Pentax or one of the others make a pro-body crop sensor camera. I would be all over it. Even though I have Canon glass. This glass holds its value. So i really loose nothing to switch.
Please ... listen to what this guy says:
robenroute: The red between her black scarf and the jacket's button is a rather clumpy cluster of just red pixels, missing detail/definition.
Don't be a dipstick - the focus is on the LEFT of the image !! The shallow depth of field means that on the right of the image, her red jacket is now WELL out of focus. Sorry but cretins like you make this place a nightmare - learn some photography before making such bold and inaccurate statements here! :(