Intermittentoverexposure: How the h3ll can dpreview give it an 80%? That's utter nonsense. Pretty much EVERY respected review site trashed this. It was named worst camera of the year on several.
Rent it first, I did - it's not good. Most people commenting here haven't shot it. It's OK, at a $1000 price point. At the $2000 price point it's a f***ing ripoff. For that price you can get the Sony RX10m2 or 3 and have a bag of cash left over. The RX10x is better in almost every way. Canon has 422, so if you need 422, then that settles it. If you don't want to grade footage, then the skin tones on Sony may also be a concern. Other than those two items, the Sony is better in every way I know of.
How the h3ll can dpreview give it an 80%? That's utter nonsense. Pretty much EVERY respected review site trashed this. It was named worst camera of the year on several.
Jonathan F/2: So nice of Fuji to keep updating their unfinished cameras.
What are you smoking? These are updates for lenses that didn't exist - how is that "unfinished"? For that matter, inside the same week you made the following two statements:
RE: The new 50mm FE
"M43 and Fuji are done. Budget Sony FE just drove the nail into the coffin of the small sensor format!"
RE: The GX85
"Camera. Of. The. Year. Good job Panasonic!"
Given contradictory statements like that, why would anyone give any weight to your opinions?
Intermittentoverexposure: I feel bad for the people that don't know any better that buy these. My mother-in-law has wanted a good camera for years. My father-in-law finally got her one for Christmas, a T5. The very same day I had my POS EOS-M over there to shoot xmas videos and pics. Even compared to the T5 (and now T6) the EOS-M is great, and the EOS-M itself is a POS. M-I-L didn't want to hurt her husband's feelings, so she kept the camera. It's gathering dust on a shelf, and likely never to be used.
I'm a Canon owner (5 figure investment), but for every user out there that gets a garbage product like this, Canon deserves to go down. They hurt newbie photogs by selling garbage cameras like this. I know, buyer beware, but to see what was a good company sustain itself with these tactics is pathetic.
The demand on the Canon side for these ancient bodies is simply based on the name, from people that don't know any better, and those people would be far better off buying a modern MILC rather the T# series. I'm not a tech junkie - I was reporting on the experience of my MIL, and she is the exact target for this kit. When presented with a modern MILC, all joy at acquiring a T5 disappeared. I expect that to be a common experience.
There is no reason in this day and age that a camera costing as much as the T5 doesn't have a touch screen, usable live-view AF, and better video.
@rrccad - yes, for all intents and purposes the 18mp sensor is the same between the T5 and the M. As far as skills, you're an idiot. I clearly stated my MIL is a newbie just learning, and that learning curve is a h3ll of a lot steeper on a camera lacking so many modern advancements.
I feel bad for the people that don't know any better that buy these. My mother-in-law has wanted a good camera for years. My father-in-law finally got her one for Christmas, a T5. The very same day I had my POS EOS-M over there to shoot xmas videos and pics. Even compared to the T5 (and now T6) the EOS-M is great, and the EOS-M itself is a POS. M-I-L didn't want to hurt her husband's feelings, so she kept the camera. It's gathering dust on a shelf, and likely never to be used.
Jim in AZ: I'm torn to what to purchase, D500 or the K1....sigh.
@PhotoUniverse - agreed, with any tech seeing is believing. I have used the X-T1 as well, both before and after FW4. I would describe it as horrible and then slightly better than horrible.
That being said, looking at those links I posted, it would have been impossible to get those results on an X-T1. Each MILC sensor revision has moved on-sensor phase detection a leap forward. Every indication is that this one is another. The latest with the A6300 using Canon adapted lenses looks crazy fast as well.
Have you shot it yet? I don't think previous experience applies, based on the reviews coming in. The X-Pro2 is proving surprisingly useful for action photography. It had no problem at this low-light car race:
And it doesn't seem to have a problem with pro soccer either:
Granted, it may not keep up with the D500, but I expect it will keep up with the K1 in most use-cases, even out-shoot it depending on the situation due to the AF grid layout.
Neither- go for the X-Pro2:)
Intermittentoverexposure: I shot the GX8 last weekend. Couple of takeaways:
1. Continuous AF is worthless, same as every other m4/3s (yes, including the E-M1)
2. This system is just as borked as the original 4/3s - if you have a body this big, use a bigger sensor
3. Panny 12-35mm has equivalent IQ to Fuji 18-55
The search for an MILC that can replace DSLR continues. Next up, Fuji X-Pro2. I would be excited for the A6300, but just as with Olympus, I expect the menu system to be unusable. It's really too bad about the Sigma - would it really be that difficult to offer a bayer sensor version of the new Quattro? 5 stars for tech, zero stars for real world where ISO is important.
99% of the time I shoot in decent weather. I'm fine keeping a slightly dated DSLR kit around to cover the times I need WR.
As for the wide end, it's not enough to care for me, and the situations where it is I can always break out the Samyang 12mm.
The C-AF is very usable in good light, but anything other than good light and it falls down. The Fuji doesn't fall down in low light, which is a huge difference.
I shot the GX8 last weekend. Couple of takeaways:
gskolenda: I would like to see all the newer Camera platforms that are plus 30 MP, have USB 3.0 instead of USB 2.0 These files are large and take time to move them.
It's not like USB 3.0 is new.
Intermittentoverexposure: Just as everyone is looking to FF mirrorless, Pentax releases a FF DSL. /facepalm
Nikon is one of the leading shorted stocks in the Asian market. They just released their year-end numbers, and they're down by double-digits again. I haven't seen the Canon numbers, but I expect those are down as well. I find it entertaining that so many photogs remain ignorant of market trends. Blackberry owned the smartphone market, and lost it inside of 3 years. Now that mirrorless can do the majority of work that DSLR can, we're seeing that here as well - it's in the numbers. Canon and Nikon can't survive on pro customers only, and that's where they're headed at this point. It's not a question anymore "if" people will go mirrorless, the question is when. The only question is whether Canikon will get on board.
Just as everyone is looking to FF mirrorless, Pentax releases a FF DSL. /facepalm
Hurray! A FF DSLR that would have been cutting edge 7 years ago. Now it arrives, and everyone is moving away from clunky old mirror boxes.
Intermittentoverexposure: Multiple card slots? Please??
It's nuts - I have to have dual card slots, and not even the $3k bodies from Sony have them. If they had multiple slots the A7x and A6k would kick my 5Dm3 and 7dm2 to the curb in a heartbeat.
Several reasons: I like to separate video and stills, using a larger card for one vs. the other. If it's an important event, I use them mirrored. Lastly, if it's family, I shoot jpg to one and jpg+raw to the other, and at the end of the event I give the jpg-only card to the family member / friend. That way they have the pics right away and I don't have to care about when I'm going to get around to post-processing them.
Multiple card slots? Please??
I just don't see the point. So many other ILC systems with bigger sensors that perform so much better.
Georgeee: I am one 100-400mm f4-5.6 lens away from moving from Canon to Sony
Actually, the 70-400mm G2 for A-Mount is fantastic, and the AF on the A7R2 should work pretty well if not great with it. Tack on the focus peaking to tweak things, and I'd rather use the Sony combo. The only thing it won't do is sports, but I can keep my 7D on standby for that.
Mssimo: 5Ds is outdated before it even goes on sale and overpriced.
Press release calls for 8 more FE lenses by early 2016, and the fact this is going to be pretty good at using A-Mount lenses sealed the deal for me.