KimPortugal: Am I seeing things upside down?Personaly I wouldn't buy this camera for the listed price only to have the possibility of using Android Apps to treat photos and upload them through the UMTS network.I'd rather see Samsung and others develop a comm module to be connected to their lineup of cameras.With ease a comm bus can be inserted in a camera that will allow it to communicate with such module in order to upload the desired photos. Creative software may easily be embedded in the camera or downloaded via a proprietary or free synchronising tool.This is the kind of solution I'd applaud for professionals working in the field...
Seems like this is already in place. Many of the new cameras have wifi (built in or a wifi SD card) or NFC to allow getting the photos onto your phone or other external device. I much prefer that method, though you give up some of the more creative things one might do with apps on a phone when it comes to actually taking the photos...
Wow, that has to be an all new high in the price to button ratio for a digital camera...
Nice set of compact primes - Pentax seems to get what is possible with APS-C in terms of offering small, dedicated primes with focal lengths that make sense for a 1.5 crop sensor...
It will be interesting to see if this model actually increases demand, shifts people to more expensive Sony's or keeps people on Nikon/Canon, etc. I like where Sony is headed with the E Mount on a dSLR form factor. Canon could do the same with the SL1: EVF & EOS-M mount.
I do think the EVF manual switch and lower res could be a deal breaker for people comparing at the store.
Mikhail Tal: I can't believe DPR actually fell for this cheap photoshop job. It's impossible for those people and their reflections to not be composited into the image after the fact. People don't just float in mid-air and if they had jumped from a helicopter or something, not only would you see the reflection of that in the water as well but you could never get enough exposure for those shots at such a fast shutter speed required to capture someone falling at a high speed.
Last time I shot images of the kids playing in the ocean at sunset, my exposure was ISO 200, F/7, 1/1250s. They were frozen in mid-air quite nicely, no Photoshop required.
bcalkins: I don't think it is quite fair to say nobody else offers such a thing - Olympus allows updates of lens firmware by using the body attached to the 'dock'... Makes more sense than having to buy a separate dock.
Canon allows updating of lenses on said mount via the body... (https://www.usa.canon.com/cusa/support/consumer?pageKeyCode=prdAdvDetail&docId=0901e0248060f7c7)
That baby is in for a surprise if it wakes up :)
I don't think it is quite fair to say nobody else offers such a thing - Olympus allows updates of lens firmware by using the body attached to the 'dock'... Makes more sense than having to buy a separate dock.
marike6: Would absolutely love a digital camera like a Nikon FM2 Digital (or FM-D) that had a split prism view finder. It makes manual focus so easy. I have a couple of AIS Nikkors ready, I have a cable release, I'm just waiting for Nikon. :-)
The other stuff like the 4x5 film holder I still have, but I purchased it after I had already been shooting digital. Few hobbies are as fun and rewarding as large format photography. The prints just look so good.
Just take a trip to http://www.focusingscreen.com/ and order yourself up a new screen for your digital camera :)
Digitall: "Go big, or go home" already summarized and sentenced.
So the future of M43 is a slow death? Well, I think that APS-C and FF is the sensor where people must bet in terms of future, depends on the camera. I say this for years, I'm not Nostradamus, but, things are going in this direction.It is clear that other systems are to propose some very interesting things, especially M43 regarding the functionality, but that's not all. Already said here, the M43 to survive has to play with quality, price and portability. The size of M43 cameras are not much smaller than it is now in the APS-C, so, here M43 are losing points. Lens price? some yes they win, some not at all.IQ quality? yes m43 are growing well, but always limited by the mathematics of sensors. Pixels vs size. The build quality is already very good in top models.Not being thinking about the medium format itself, the FF is the Top dreamed by common mortal. So, Go big, or go home. ;)
You have it backwards. Why would APS-C live? Quality is similar to MFT, but bigger in size. Lens selection is poorer (unless you count those heavy full frame things)... MFT is a big improvement over a cell phone. What does an average non-enthusiast gain with APS-C over MFT? MFT is big compared to the sensors he is talking about here, isn't it?
AndyW17: Why is the flip-up viewfinder useful? I can see it if you're using a short tripod or a cat up a tree - but otherwise? What am I missing?
I found myself laying on the ground using the rear screen on my OM-D to get low angle shots up towards my kids coming off jumps, and found the LCD hard to see in bright sun. A tilting viewfinder would be useful in this case. Doesn't seem to add much cost or bulk, so no negatives to having it!
RedSkiesAtNight: DxO shows that there is really no noticeable difference in performance between these latest M43 cameras and APS. Add IBIS, and they leapfrog ahead.
IBIS, Focus Peaking, smallest lenses, flip-up evf - this camera appears to be what many have waited for.
@ParticleMan78: I think the point, though, is that there ARE APS-C cameras that are bested by the OM-D or E-P5, including current cameras from Canon. This is where 'close enough' comes into play. Now that MFT cameras are ahead of where Canon is, that isn't good enough for anyone anymore? Tough crowd!
Zvonimir Tosic: Uh, DSLR IS A WIDE AND VARIED TERM, and in the case of this article's headline it's used to a highly misleading conclusion.
A DSLR can mean both 1DX or D4 with a 70-210/2.8, a flashgun and a bag or lenses. Or as a contrast, latest tiny Canon with a 40mm pancake lens. Or my K5 with a DA21 pancake lens, both of which are smaller than a mirrorless NEX or m4/3 with a zoom lens.
Horses for courses. Put things in RIGHT context, or they lose any sense.
I'll give you that a K-5 is small, but not 'smaller' than a m4/3 camera or NEX with a zoom and/or several of the compact primes: http://camerasize.com/compact/#187,289.335,375.360,ha,t
For some the size difference is negligible, of course.
steve norris: Mmmmmm. I'm sure these are all valid comments and opinions but I don't understand how people get so hung up about specs and cameras. Learn to use even a basic camera properly then, more importantly, learn the skill and art of photography. Then you'll be spending more time selling your work than writing about the pro's and cons of equipment. Only Mho :)
@kavolis - there are no problems getting images accepted at agencies, both RM and microstock, with smaller sensors. For example, Alamy lists the OM-D, MFT cameras and even the Nikon V1/J1, etc on their recommended camera list. http://www.alamy.com/contributor/help/recommended-digital-cameras.asp
sdribetahi: I always find it funny when they talk about how small this camera is, yet Canon lenses that people will buy that use this camera are huge plastic blobs.
@sdribetahi - You are missing the point. You don't need the camera/lens combo to be small with EVERY lens you use. It is enough if the focal lengths you want to bring are available in a compact lens. With my Olympus OM-D, for example, there are 28mm and 40mm equivalent lenses that are very small in size and I do take it with me skiing, running, etc in a pocket: http://www.flickr.com/photos/shuswapheroshot/8716678984/http://www.flickr.com/photos/shuswapheroshot/8450024544/in/photostream/
Where Mirrorless is an advantage over the SL1 is that you can get a high end body in this size...
ShelNf: That lens just screams "Steal me!"
There is a black option :)
Mssimo: Photography world has not seen something this revolutionary since the lytro cameras.
Or DuoCam (and apps like it?) on the iPhone...
"will comfortably house a mirrorless camera or compact DSLR with a couple of lenses"
I have a Crumpler 4 Million Dollar Home that is 8x8x5 versus 11x8x13 and I carry an OM-D with grip, and 3 or 4 lenses, spare batteries and memory cards plus a polarizer and 10mm extension tube (not all that all the time, but that is what fits comfortably). The sling 250 should definitely hold a mirrorless camera and two lenses!
I've got kids that are 2, 4, 6, and 7 and the older two can handle a dSLR when supervised, but really they have a lot more fun doing videos. I suspect it will be a few years before they are interested in any kind of manual control. I'd just get them a Go-Pro and let them shoot video for a few years until they express an interest, and then go for a year or two year old model like an e-pm1, nikon v1, e-pl1, Panny G3 or something like that. The MILCs are just so much more responsive than entry level P&S cameras, and the older ones aren't far off in price. Getting into manual control with a camera that has a tiny sensor make it hard to see the effects of aperture...
Just make sure they turn off the go-pro when they head into the changeroom after the waterslides :)
tko: $1265, all manual, 760g.
Canon 85MM F/1.8 = $365, all auto, 425 G
Less performance, more expensive, and heavier. A whopping 0.3" smaller in one dimension, 0.1 in the others.
A perfect example of how M34rds rips of the unsuspecting buyers who think that a F0.95 lens is amazing, and close their eyes to the real specs.
No wonder M43rds doesn't want equivalence spec published - they reveal the sham.
Spot on, BJL. Adding a Nikon 85mm 1.8 lens and a full frame body to my OM-D kit is a lot more expensive than adding this one lens... Which isn't to say that I see the value in this lens for my uses, but it is an option in the same way that people buy into Canon and Nikon knowing there is a tilt/shift or long and fast telephotos if they ever need it. The reality is that most of us can get creative with our images without needing an f/ 0.95 lens.
I'm excited to see this lens, but the price is high, and I'm unlikely to buy it. But I never purchased an f/1.2 lens when I shot APS-C dSLRs, either. People buy Zeiss MF lenses for their dSLRs for similar money. Nothing wrong with having options.