Zvonimir Tosic: Uh, DSLR IS A WIDE AND VARIED TERM, and in the case of this article's headline it's used to a highly misleading conclusion.
A DSLR can mean both 1DX or D4 with a 70-210/2.8, a flashgun and a bag or lenses. Or as a contrast, latest tiny Canon with a 40mm pancake lens. Or my K5 with a DA21 pancake lens, both of which are smaller than a mirrorless NEX or m4/3 with a zoom lens.
Horses for courses. Put things in RIGHT context, or they lose any sense.
I'll give you that a K-5 is small, but not 'smaller' than a m4/3 camera or NEX with a zoom and/or several of the compact primes: http://camerasize.com/compact/#187,289.335,375.360,ha,t
For some the size difference is negligible, of course.
steve norris: Mmmmmm. I'm sure these are all valid comments and opinions but I don't understand how people get so hung up about specs and cameras. Learn to use even a basic camera properly then, more importantly, learn the skill and art of photography. Then you'll be spending more time selling your work than writing about the pro's and cons of equipment. Only Mho :)
@kavolis - there are no problems getting images accepted at agencies, both RM and microstock, with smaller sensors. For example, Alamy lists the OM-D, MFT cameras and even the Nikon V1/J1, etc on their recommended camera list. http://www.alamy.com/contributor/help/recommended-digital-cameras.asp
sdribetahi: I always find it funny when they talk about how small this camera is, yet Canon lenses that people will buy that use this camera are huge plastic blobs.
@sdribetahi - You are missing the point. You don't need the camera/lens combo to be small with EVERY lens you use. It is enough if the focal lengths you want to bring are available in a compact lens. With my Olympus OM-D, for example, there are 28mm and 40mm equivalent lenses that are very small in size and I do take it with me skiing, running, etc in a pocket: http://www.flickr.com/photos/shuswapheroshot/8716678984/http://www.flickr.com/photos/shuswapheroshot/8450024544/in/photostream/
Where Mirrorless is an advantage over the SL1 is that you can get a high end body in this size...
ShelNf: That lens just screams "Steal me!"
There is a black option :)
Mssimo: Photography world has not seen something this revolutionary since the lytro cameras.
Or DuoCam (and apps like it?) on the iPhone...
"will comfortably house a mirrorless camera or compact DSLR with a couple of lenses"
I have a Crumpler 4 Million Dollar Home that is 8x8x5 versus 11x8x13 and I carry an OM-D with grip, and 3 or 4 lenses, spare batteries and memory cards plus a polarizer and 10mm extension tube (not all that all the time, but that is what fits comfortably). The sling 250 should definitely hold a mirrorless camera and two lenses!
I've got kids that are 2, 4, 6, and 7 and the older two can handle a dSLR when supervised, but really they have a lot more fun doing videos. I suspect it will be a few years before they are interested in any kind of manual control. I'd just get them a Go-Pro and let them shoot video for a few years until they express an interest, and then go for a year or two year old model like an e-pm1, nikon v1, e-pl1, Panny G3 or something like that. The MILCs are just so much more responsive than entry level P&S cameras, and the older ones aren't far off in price. Getting into manual control with a camera that has a tiny sensor make it hard to see the effects of aperture...
Just make sure they turn off the go-pro when they head into the changeroom after the waterslides :)
tko: $1265, all manual, 760g.
Canon 85MM F/1.8 = $365, all auto, 425 G
Less performance, more expensive, and heavier. A whopping 0.3" smaller in one dimension, 0.1 in the others.
A perfect example of how M34rds rips of the unsuspecting buyers who think that a F0.95 lens is amazing, and close their eyes to the real specs.
No wonder M43rds doesn't want equivalence spec published - they reveal the sham.
Spot on, BJL. Adding a Nikon 85mm 1.8 lens and a full frame body to my OM-D kit is a lot more expensive than adding this one lens... Which isn't to say that I see the value in this lens for my uses, but it is an option in the same way that people buy into Canon and Nikon knowing there is a tilt/shift or long and fast telephotos if they ever need it. The reality is that most of us can get creative with our images without needing an f/ 0.95 lens.
I'm excited to see this lens, but the price is high, and I'm unlikely to buy it. But I never purchased an f/1.2 lens when I shot APS-C dSLRs, either. People buy Zeiss MF lenses for their dSLRs for similar money. Nothing wrong with having options.
Wow - that is a lot less than I expected. Nice job Sigma!
Nice to see more options for the mirrorless and APS-C crowd. I'm not sure I see the appeal of the 16mm for micro four thirds specifically, since we already have the 17mm f/1.8, 20mm f/1.7 and 14mm f/2.5, which are all pancakes compared to the 16mm... But for APS-C dSLRs there are few dedicated fast wide angle primes.
anthony mazzeri: "The Leica X Vario is the world’s first compact camera to combine a large, APS-C format, CMOS image sensor with a zoom lens."
So what about the Ricoh GXR A16 24-85mm released a year and a half ago?
It's actually even smaller in every dimension when it comes to being a compact. And it's also wider at 24mm and faster F5.5 and longer at 85mm.
Ricoh needs to get better PR/marketing people.
Technicalities aside, I think you have to give the nod to the Canon as the first large sensor with zoom, or Ricoh/Sony/Fuji if you count MILCs. Restricting the claim to 'compacts' isn't exactly defining the category by a useful feature...
To me it has to be cheaper than the 24-70mm f2.8 full frame zooms to be successful. But looking at smaller format fast zooms, you have the Panasonic MFT f/2.8 zoom and Olympus's 14-35mm 4/3 f/2 zoom - which still sells for $2,300. I'd say $1800 sounds about right for this lens... Not that I'll buy one!
TheDigitalCruiser: In the case of interchangeable lens cameras, where does it explicitly say what lens was used to shoot the studio image shot? For instances, we the Olympus OM-D shot with the 12-50mm zoom, the older 14-42mm zoom, or some other legacy lens that few people use anymore. If you're not doing it already, I'd suggest shooting with the most popular package lens and then listing the identity of that lens prominently on the same page as the comparison engine.
You can hover over the gear in the lower right of each image, and see the lens details, including aperture. The OM-D shots are all with the 4/3 50mm f/2 Macro lens, which surely helps the OM-D a little compared to some of the other brands :)
Hang on, did they double the price of a 'Pro' (= ad free) account? Yahoo may have just talked me out of spending any money with them next year...
It is good to see Canon bringing out more options that will work with the EOS-M ;)
Do people really have model releases for all of those entries? I find it hard to believe that people could provide "a signed release from all persons who appear in the photograph submitted" on 7 days notice for some of these images...
You can see why they run these contests - last year had 12,000 entries at $15 a pop. I find it amazing that so many people are willing to PAY NG to give THEM the right to publish, use, etc. their images with no additional compensation. I don't mind paying for a contest entry, but they shouldn't get to use non-winners...
justmeMN: With the EVF it's not compact. With a metal body, it's not light. Why not just buy a DSLR, which has a larger sensor? You can get a really nice DSLR for (less than) $1,500.
@Marike6 There are different definitions of 'pockets'. I take my E-M5 with a pancake lens in my jacket pocket when I ski or am out with the kids. I did a run with the kids last week where I brought the E-M5 with me. No question this camera doesn't have the pocketability of a S90 or something like that - but it IS more portable than a dSLR. I never would have grabbed my 7D, gone for a run and got this shot: https://www.flickr.com/photos/47706598@N08/8716678984/in/photostream.
To me the benefit of this kind of camera is if you make it the ONLY camera you own. Then the slight premium in price pays off as you don't have to own a P&S or run two systems.
Your point about the 7100 are exactly opposite why I like the OM-D as my only camera. It is precisely because I do some video with it that the EVF and IBIS come into their own. For stills, agreed that IBIS is only so valuable.
Isn't this kind of pointless? I can wait for the real news release...
Nice! Didn't think anyone would be saying 'I shot my zoom lens STOPPED DOWN at f/2' any time soon :) Sigma is bringing out some interesting stuff these days...