CortoPA: Its almost as good a camera as a Pentax K-5 IIs
Too bad the Pentax K-5 doesn't take MFT/FT lenses, or it might be an option :)
PerL: Looks nice, more ergonomic than OM-D, but high price compared to high end APS-C competition which has true OVFs, probably better AF-C and upgrade path to FF.
I have to agree with R Butler - precisely what attracts me to MFT is that from the smallest bodies to the high end ones they all take the same lenses with the same FOV and use.
Not to mention that to get 'small' in dSLRs you typically need to give up features or controls relatively to a similar sized body like the EM-1.
Juck: I thought the whole point of MILC systems was to reduce size? This behemoth is practically the same size as a Canon T5i,,, it's also double the price and has less resolution than the T5i. Heck,,, you could pick up a 70D for less than this thing.
Definitely one for the fanboys.
You are missing the point! It is the size of the SYSTEM that attracts me to Olympus. Sure you can get a small body like the SL1 or T series, but none of those choices offer the sealing and durability, the large viewfinder, twin control dials and customization, etc. And most importantly, I can get small lenses and bodies to round out the system. With the Canon setup you end up going to full frame bodies and lenses. The smallest dSLRs are comparable to the largest MILC cameras. With Olympus (or Fuji and Samsung) it is all one system, from the smallest body to the largest, and the lenses are all compatible. Where is the Canon 24mm or 28mm equivalent prime lens for the T5i? The EM-1 with a pancake lens is still very small, compared to a similarly spec'd APS-C camera and shares lenses with the E-PM2 or GF series. Similarly, if you want fast primes you have to get full frame lenses for your APS-C body...
Finally - EVFs come to P&S cameras ! Be nice to see a capable EVF in some of the larger sensor compacts...
KimPortugal: Am I seeing things upside down?Personaly I wouldn't buy this camera for the listed price only to have the possibility of using Android Apps to treat photos and upload them through the UMTS network.I'd rather see Samsung and others develop a comm module to be connected to their lineup of cameras.With ease a comm bus can be inserted in a camera that will allow it to communicate with such module in order to upload the desired photos. Creative software may easily be embedded in the camera or downloaded via a proprietary or free synchronising tool.This is the kind of solution I'd applaud for professionals working in the field...
Seems like this is already in place. Many of the new cameras have wifi (built in or a wifi SD card) or NFC to allow getting the photos onto your phone or other external device. I much prefer that method, though you give up some of the more creative things one might do with apps on a phone when it comes to actually taking the photos...
Wow, that has to be an all new high in the price to button ratio for a digital camera...
Nice set of compact primes - Pentax seems to get what is possible with APS-C in terms of offering small, dedicated primes with focal lengths that make sense for a 1.5 crop sensor...
It will be interesting to see if this model actually increases demand, shifts people to more expensive Sony's or keeps people on Nikon/Canon, etc. I like where Sony is headed with the E Mount on a dSLR form factor. Canon could do the same with the SL1: EVF & EOS-M mount.
I do think the EVF manual switch and lower res could be a deal breaker for people comparing at the store.
Mikhail Tal: I can't believe DPR actually fell for this cheap photoshop job. It's impossible for those people and their reflections to not be composited into the image after the fact. People don't just float in mid-air and if they had jumped from a helicopter or something, not only would you see the reflection of that in the water as well but you could never get enough exposure for those shots at such a fast shutter speed required to capture someone falling at a high speed.
Last time I shot images of the kids playing in the ocean at sunset, my exposure was ISO 200, F/7, 1/1250s. They were frozen in mid-air quite nicely, no Photoshop required.
bcalkins: I don't think it is quite fair to say nobody else offers such a thing - Olympus allows updates of lens firmware by using the body attached to the 'dock'... Makes more sense than having to buy a separate dock.
Canon allows updating of lenses on said mount via the body... (https://www.usa.canon.com/cusa/support/consumer?pageKeyCode=prdAdvDetail&docId=0901e0248060f7c7)
That baby is in for a surprise if it wakes up :)
I don't think it is quite fair to say nobody else offers such a thing - Olympus allows updates of lens firmware by using the body attached to the 'dock'... Makes more sense than having to buy a separate dock.
chj: All these comments about marginal differences in IQ which only pixel peepers care about. The feature set in the 70D opens up so much when it comes to TAKING PHOTOS. Fast accurate live view AND a fully articulated LCD with touchscreen focusing at 7 fps?! Do you realize how must faster and more flexible that makes shooting? You can just whip the camera around at any angle, it's not glued to your face anymore. No need to focus and recompose, just touch the screen. And you can do it in the rain. There is no other camera that offers this feature set. You'll be able to catch shots that you otherwise would have missed. Who cares about barely noticeable IQ differences if you missed the shot?
They may not be able to track moving objects away from me (as well), but that certainly doesn't mean they aren't perfectly capable of PHOTOGRAPHING moving objects away from me... I think I have enough images in my gallery to prove I can photograph something moving towards me with an OM-D without the benefit of phase detect autofocus tracking (and I'm talking shots I wanted to get, not crappy shots of things running at me at f/8). I get your point, but I disagree with the original statement that no camera before has offered the ability to reliably get shots using both the viewfinder and the articulated LCD before this advancement. It is an advancement, to be sure, but not quite so game changing as it sounds - if you have been using mirrorless cameras for the last few years.
I would also argue that PD-AF is the holy grail for TRACKING. Practically, for me anyways, that only affects a small number of my photos, and CD-AF offers some benefits in some areas over PD-AF, like accuracy.
How about the OM-D, GH3 and Sony A77, etc? Nice to see dSLRs catching up with some of these 'new' features like fast focus in 'live view'. The 70D adds some good stuff to the marketplace, but it is hardly going to revolutionize photography by allowing faster focus in live view - that has been around for a while...
marike6: Would absolutely love a digital camera like a Nikon FM2 Digital (or FM-D) that had a split prism view finder. It makes manual focus so easy. I have a couple of AIS Nikkors ready, I have a cable release, I'm just waiting for Nikon. :-)
The other stuff like the 4x5 film holder I still have, but I purchased it after I had already been shooting digital. Few hobbies are as fun and rewarding as large format photography. The prints just look so good.
Just take a trip to http://www.focusingscreen.com/ and order yourself up a new screen for your digital camera :)
Digitall: "Go big, or go home" already summarized and sentenced.
So the future of M43 is a slow death? Well, I think that APS-C and FF is the sensor where people must bet in terms of future, depends on the camera. I say this for years, I'm not Nostradamus, but, things are going in this direction.It is clear that other systems are to propose some very interesting things, especially M43 regarding the functionality, but that's not all. Already said here, the M43 to survive has to play with quality, price and portability. The size of M43 cameras are not much smaller than it is now in the APS-C, so, here M43 are losing points. Lens price? some yes they win, some not at all.IQ quality? yes m43 are growing well, but always limited by the mathematics of sensors. Pixels vs size. The build quality is already very good in top models.Not being thinking about the medium format itself, the FF is the Top dreamed by common mortal. So, Go big, or go home. ;)
You have it backwards. Why would APS-C live? Quality is similar to MFT, but bigger in size. Lens selection is poorer (unless you count those heavy full frame things)... MFT is a big improvement over a cell phone. What does an average non-enthusiast gain with APS-C over MFT? MFT is big compared to the sensors he is talking about here, isn't it?
AndyW17: Why is the flip-up viewfinder useful? I can see it if you're using a short tripod or a cat up a tree - but otherwise? What am I missing?
I found myself laying on the ground using the rear screen on my OM-D to get low angle shots up towards my kids coming off jumps, and found the LCD hard to see in bright sun. A tilting viewfinder would be useful in this case. Doesn't seem to add much cost or bulk, so no negatives to having it!
RedSkiesAtNight: DxO shows that there is really no noticeable difference in performance between these latest M43 cameras and APS. Add IBIS, and they leapfrog ahead.
IBIS, Focus Peaking, smallest lenses, flip-up evf - this camera appears to be what many have waited for.
@ParticleMan78: I think the point, though, is that there ARE APS-C cameras that are bested by the OM-D or E-P5, including current cameras from Canon. This is where 'close enough' comes into play. Now that MFT cameras are ahead of where Canon is, that isn't good enough for anyone anymore? Tough crowd!
Zvonimir Tosic: Uh, DSLR IS A WIDE AND VARIED TERM, and in the case of this article's headline it's used to a highly misleading conclusion.
A DSLR can mean both 1DX or D4 with a 70-210/2.8, a flashgun and a bag or lenses. Or as a contrast, latest tiny Canon with a 40mm pancake lens. Or my K5 with a DA21 pancake lens, both of which are smaller than a mirrorless NEX or m4/3 with a zoom lens.
Horses for courses. Put things in RIGHT context, or they lose any sense.
I'll give you that a K-5 is small, but not 'smaller' than a m4/3 camera or NEX with a zoom and/or several of the compact primes: http://camerasize.com/compact/#187,289.335,375.360,ha,t
For some the size difference is negligible, of course.
steve norris: Mmmmmm. I'm sure these are all valid comments and opinions but I don't understand how people get so hung up about specs and cameras. Learn to use even a basic camera properly then, more importantly, learn the skill and art of photography. Then you'll be spending more time selling your work than writing about the pro's and cons of equipment. Only Mho :)
@kavolis - there are no problems getting images accepted at agencies, both RM and microstock, with smaller sensors. For example, Alamy lists the OM-D, MFT cameras and even the Nikon V1/J1, etc on their recommended camera list. http://www.alamy.com/contributor/help/recommended-digital-cameras.asp