danieljcox: I agree with karip regarding miscalculations and a snow flake starting an avalanche. Right after Apple announced the death of Aperture they make sure to mention they plan to still support their other two pro apps. Then they release updates to those apps. Nice try, if anyone thinks that the other pro apps are not on the table for elimination, you're fooling yourself. One of the main ways Apple sold computers in the past was due to great softer that only ran on the Mac. The death of Aperture has seriously fractured my faith in Apple making great software for just their machines. That was the benefit of buying a Mac, it had the best software. Apple is eliminating one of the reasons to buy their equipment. Not a smart move. I'm really, really surprised at this announcement.
Daniel J. Coxwww.naturalexposures.com
The problem is that Apple's idea of what makes software great is different than yours. You want powerful tools packed with features aimed at professionals, but Apple's money comes from consumers who don't do anything, and for whom even the Finder is too complex. iOS users are their primary focus now, and over the next five years we're going to see Apple dropping what's left of its professional software and hardware in lieu of simplistic consumer products.
Sonyshine: Lets hope they have taken both iPhoto and Aperture forwards with this new 'combined' app. I'm very fond of Aperture and will be sad to see it go.
I couldn't care less about cloud storage though.
Clearly you didn't watch the keynote. Photos is even more consumer-oriented than iPhoto. I guess iPhoto was too hard for iOS users.
Prognathous: The only thing you need to know: the $10 photography bundle is a trap.
Quote from Adobe's membership contract:
"The price of your one-year commitment (as reflected in the monthly installment amounts) may change for your next annual renewal, and we’ll provide you notice of a change by email"
In short, nothing but a teaser price. Get ready to pay through the nose as soon as you've created enough project files and can't properly open them by anything else. Good luck being Adobe's hostage.
I'll continue to use Lr and PS too since the versions I have don't require a subscription and will keep working even if I never pay Adobe another cent.
Good luck with the Cloud.
@ String: The money isn't the issue. The issue is that if you stop subscribing, the software stops working. The same isn't true with non-subscription software. You pay for it once, and that version keeps working even if you never upgrade to another version or pay Adobe another dime. I would have no complaints against the subscription model if you could stop subscribing and lose only access to further updates. That would be fair. But Adobe CC as it stands is for suckers and apologists and the self-loathing.
It's confounding that any rational human being would defend Adobe's subscription model.
desaint: Everybody complaining,i think 10 dollar a month is a bargain for such a great software tool.
The problem isn't the price. The problem is that the software stops working if you stop subscribing. You're locked out.
beavertown: How come every manufacturer can make better products than Nikon?
Nikon's VR II only has 2 stops in reality.
The Tamron's VC kills Nikon's VR II by miles.
Now Fuji's OIS is going to insult Nikon's VR II.
Get a grip Nikon!
Nikon has full frame sensors, 1400+ shots per battery, and working auto-focus. You were saying?
eyedo: I had to sell my Nikon D600 for a big loss last year,pre announcement.
I hated everything about that camera,Especially the 20 giant oil splotches on 1200 images I had to retouch after a big client shoot.
I switched brands after that and I'm not looking back.
This sounds made up.
Carbon111: I cant think of another B&W camera out there without a Bayer filter - no demosaicing needed. Every photosite is used for a tonal value.
Paired with Leica glass it's absolutely superb!
Wish I could justify/afford getting a Monochrom.
I should mention that I still use this method even with the Foveon cameras Lightroom does support. Lightroom's Foveon decoding isn't anywhere near as good as SPP's, so the lack of native support for the Merrills doesn't matter much.
Lightroom supports a few Foveon sensors, but not the Merrills. My solution to the problem has been to use Sigma Photo Pro to export 16-bit TIFFs with the contrast slider dragged to its minimum value. This gets you a full quality file with full dynamic range, and then, in Lightroom, you can use a Curve and/or the Whites and Blacks sliders to bring the contrast back up. It's the next best thing to having a RAW file. The only thing you need to be careful of is white balance.
TLD: Ironic that the 'Help Page' Linked to above throws up a 'Sorry not available' message. There is a not particularly helpful 'Status' page here: https://status.creativecloud.com/
If you run without the Desktop Application manager open and signed in, then you are less likely to be denied access to your CC apps should there be another outage. This will also prevent your Typekit fonts from syncing, and you'll be late finding out about updates. The Typekit issue is the serious one - I love Typekit :-).
It's coming up to a full year since the CC subscription model went live. Least ways I recently got an email saying my discounted $20/month was soon going up to $50. Hmmm.. I was hoping that the good will from the Photography Bundle deal might filter up to better full subscription pricing.
Photoshop CC already has features I'd hate to be without, and as time progresses, the gap with CS6 will get ever wider. If I only used PS and LR I would consider $10/month the bargain of a lifetime.
Does CC really have features you’d hate to be without? I have found that even pre-Creative Suite versions of Photoshop and Illustrator did everything I needed them to do. Unfortunately, they were never compiled to run on modern hardware.
Bill T.: I wonder how many of the anti-CC ranters here are merely annoyed because they can no longer pirate the software?
I've never mind paying for good value received, and as far as I'm concerned CC represents fabulous value for the money, especially for those who use multiple applications.
If Adobe went back to old scheme, I couldn't afford to pay for a lot of Adobe programs (and their updates) that I now use. Just think...that would give us a whole new thing to rant about!
CC isn’t any harder to pirate than CS. In fact, it’s not hard at all. Copy protection only harms honest customers.
Peter CS: Too much time spent on this "luxury camera" by DP, which is sorely lacking in both technological innovation and resolution. Construction quality is great, but real Leica (M film and Digital) photographers also want weather-sealing, high dynamic range, high resolution, etc., and not just a fancy red Leica dot on an aluminum brick. For the price and prestige, I would expect a weather-sealed, titanium or magnesium brick with a great- read high-traction grip and designated add-on extra battery grip. This Leica T, unfortunately, fails to even create or inspire a "lust to own" factor.
T3, the Leica M (Type 240) is weather sealed. The lenses aren’t, but they contain no electronics.
Jozef M: color space sRGB ... no Adobe RGB?
Jogger: lmao.. i just use the full LR5.3 on my surface pro 2.. why make it harder for yourself. get a surface.
A good strategy if you already have a Surface, assuming that Adobe doesn’t start demanding a subscription to use Lightroom.
raztec: Adobe will die with their subscription service.
Share price is one thing, but didn’t their profit get cut in half?
lambert4: Looks like they are opening the door to Aperture if they update the Software and maybe launch an iOS application to work in conjunction?
But a clue only. Apple has a history of saying nothing about a product for years, and then, without warning, dropping something new and fully-formed into the market (e.g. Final Cut Pro X, Logic Pro X).
Sannaborjeson: Not bad for start but missing some functionality from desktop. Looks more like a toy until learn how to sync presets etc.
Calling something a toy is a famous mistake in this industry.
Impulses: I don't have much of a problem with a cloud model or cloud services being offered as a subset of LR, Adobe's shaky security practices notwithstanding... But the price has gotta be right. It'd cost me $80 every year to upgrade LR, so for $40 more per year this isn't worth it to ME (nevermind that I'd have to wait for Android support anyway).
Sure it includes PS, but I'm fine with PS Elements, which I only upgrade every other year (and can be found as low as $80, even bundled with Premier for that price). I don't need LR to import some photos unto my tablet for browsing or even to play around with the RAW files a bit, there's already apps for that on Android.
Catalog sync and 20GB of cloud storage would be nice, but not at $40 more per year. Specially when I already have 45GB on Dropbox and 25GB on Skydrive & Goggle Drive for free (thru various offers & promos), plus 50GB on Amazon for much less... Adobe's gotta up their storage game or lower prices to convince me. I imagine 20GB would be worthless to pros too.
Only targeting those photographers who make money off photography would rule out most of Adobe’s customers.
FinDERP: Cloud technology AKA the internet
“Internet” only implies that computers are interconnected, not that your data must be stored on a remote server, or accessible via subscription.