Juck: Nice, but Alpha 7 is much better.
Alpha 8 makes Alpha 7 look like Alpha 6.
Andrew53: Someone finds a way to migrate my LR work to different software and I'm gone.
Capture One Pro has a new Lr import feature which preserves basic edits such as metadata, exposure, white balance, cropping, etc. Last I checked, it was still in beta form, but it’s worth looking into.
AbrasiveReducer: While I deplore schemes that make you pay every month for the rest of your life, the number of smart phone users suggests people are willing to rent instead of buy if it means enough to them.
It’s different when you’re addicted to something, and smart phone users are nothing if not addicted to their phones.
sandy b: I'm in. For the price of three beers a month I get LR5 and PS CS6. No more paying for upgrades. Compared to the price of this hobby, this is one of the cheapest expenses.
You mean no more NOT paying for upgrades, silly.
Nutsfortubes: I'll wait 2 or 3 years and buy it used for $600.00 because that s what I would pay for it. LAMO
Yeah, except you won’t.
thx1138: Just browsing the beautiful new Pentax lens they announced, it would seem Nikon should take a leaf out of their book and offer some damn sexy retro lenses with engraved distance and DoF scales. Why not go the whole hog, rather than tarting up the 50 f/1.8 with a dubious silver ring.
They already do:
OldZorki: Not enough dials to justify the price. :)
Kidding aside, a great looking camera. People will have an ability to get D4 image quality at half the price, while using any Nikon lenses from any era. What not to like? For people without collection of Nikon FF lens it is probably a hard (but not impossible) sale.
Miketala, for how long did you hold this camera before you concluded that it has rotten ergonomics and is uncomfortable to hold?
vkphoto: I find it sadly ironic that Df can properly meter with every Nikkor lens (including non Ai) but doesn’t provide split screen for MF nor displays the aperture ring values in the viewfinder. The only explanation I have is that Nikon is protecting their Nikkor AF/G line of lenses. Unfortunately but Df is just another AF/G centric Nikon DSLR. The most important "retro" feature, MF support, is completely missing.
By “split screen” you probably mean “split prism”, but the lack of a split prism doesn’t mean that manual focus support is completely missing (though I do wish it had a split prism). And as for very old lenses not displaying aperture values in the viewfinder; if you pay to have these lenses modified (some metal filed away), they will. It’s up to you to do so.
Your conspiracy theory about Nikon protecting their AF/G profits is probably wrong.
Jeffa4444: Wow reading through this list so many negative people. FACT: Most Nikon lenses are being outperformed by the sensor in the Nikon D800 & D800E so your not getting its true performance anyway. You are getting more dynamic range but not resolution.
AbrasiveReducer and Mattwd assume that everybody who uses a Nikon has the same needs and biases, but there’s a chance that they’re wrong about this.
Artak Hambarian: It is beautiful! And beauty will save the world. Isnt't it the beauty thate made us photographers? BTW the Nikon USA Df site says it is 24 MPs. Did you noticed that?
By and large, the naysayers in this forum aren’t photographers and don’t recognize beauty.
GradyPhilpott: I have to admit that I don't quite get it.
It’s for guys like me who think our D700s are too big, too heavy, and too electronic. We want mechanical dials instead of buttons and menus so that the camera feels more like a tool again, rather than a computer. It’s not retro for retro’s sake. It’s a step back towards simplicity.
Easycass: You just got to love all the comments that are negative, pessimistic, scathing, derogatory and downright miserable... I believe it is in the interests of every photographic company to be open to the idea of providing a choice of user interface, regardless of the level of technology inside. We do not need to like all the choices we are given, but why not embrace the fact we are at least given the chance to choose...
For complex emotional reasons, the idea of this camera threatens a lot of people, but I already want it. I just hope it’s not too pricey.
d2f: I wish Nikon would just get to the point and allow sites like this one to post their first impressions without the marketing videos release. This kind of marketing game went out with disco years ago and leaves Nikon fans and working pros wondering what kind of idiot at corporate signed off on it. Meanwhile Canon, Sony and others watch and learn from Nikon's mistakes. Hopefully Nikon did not pay to much for the cheesy videos and will fire their marketing executive on November 5th.
“to” should be “too”
fmian: The very idea behind this camera is a joke as far as photography goes.It undermines the very notion of what it means to be a photographer.If people really wanted that old time pure feeling of using a manually controlled camera then they would just buy a manual film camera. And plenty of people are doing just that!This camera will appeal to those who think of their cameras as more of a fashion accessory rather than an actual device to capture an intimate moment or a breathtaking scene.It brings nothing new to the table and will serve to fill in the gap between honest talented photographers and those pretenders who think their new camera somehow makes a difference.Another thumbs down to Nikon from myself and many others here I see.
You’re wrong on every level. This camera appeals to people who want the simplicity of a film camera, with the convenience of digital. I’ve been hoping for something like this for ten years.
Johnsonj: I've had pretty lousy service whenever I've called Adobe. Almost like Best Buy is working their sales call center. Tech support sounds like India. Got some real menacing people there. And I somehow got stuck with 2 Adobe accounts and can't delete either one. They're no help. Then there was the registration for how many ??? computers for purchased copy, to which I got conflicting answers from different reps. Then there was the kid that said they could not physically ship software package and then another sweet girl (hours later) who gladly shipped me the software. This company is seriously messed up. I'm weening myself away from Lightroom. I hate computer time for PP anyway. I'll be developing a bare-bones workflow around iPhoto and iMovie. To hell with adobe.
Apple doesn’t require software authorizations or subscription fees, and iLife, iWork and OS upgrades are now free.
retro76: One thing about Aperture I love is the color rendition. It's much better than Lightroom. I prefer Lightroom's controls, but the color has always been a problem no matter which camera I use. Aperture delivers lovely skin tones.
How long does it take to learn to get fantastic color from Lightroom?
This is so beautiful.
kwa_photo: It may not be Aperture 4...but it's a full .x update with a lot of bug fixes and some new functionality. I think they must be saving upgrades/updates to actual photo processing until the eventual version 4.0. It's taking quite a while, so I hope the wait will be worth it. I've been tempted many times to go to LightRoom but the Aperture workflow and tight integration keeps with with 3.5 :-)
3.5 is the Mac Pro update. To wit:
“Testing conducted by Apple in October 2013 using preproduction Mac Pro 12-core 2.7GHz units with 1TB flash storage and AMD FirePro D700 graphics, and shipping Mac Pro 12-core 3.06GHz units with 512GB SSD and ATI Radeon HD 5870 graphics. All systems configured with 64GB of RAM. Tested with prerelease OS X 10.9 and prerelease Aperture 3.5 using RAW images. Performance tests are conducted using specific computer systems and reflect the approximate performance of Mac Pro.”
facedodge: I was a big Aperture user, but after a few hours with Lightroom I never went back. I miss the OS integration I had with Aperture. Maybe they will win me back one day.
Oddly enough, I just upgraded Aperture to 3.5 and iWork Pages to 5 and that OS integration is gone anyway. iWork’s Media browser only displays iPhoto images, and the “Share Previews” checkbox in Aperture has been changed to “Share XML” whatever that means (and it’s not explained in Aperture’s Help system, nor are previews mentioned except as a Glossary entry).
MPA1: Bye bye Aperture. Now I get LR as part of CC (had to go to the Adobe Dark Side for a collaboration) and your lacklustre update policy means a change going forward.
I've used it since paying $800 for version 1 (remember when software cost that much?!) but now just a legacy to maintain edits from past projects.
I remember Aperture being $500 on launch, not $800, and it very quickly dropped to about $299. Now it’s $79.
How long before it’s free, I wonder.…
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