name here: DPreview: I find it hard to agree with your raw noise conclusions.
60D samples on the bottom of page 15 look cleaner to me at ISO 1600 and upward. You do say 70D is smoother between 1600-6400. If my monitor is not failing me, I don't quite see that. In particular, the blue patch is a lot more noisy on 70D than on 60D... and, even green and gray patches are noisier on 70D. There's also less detail on the face. Not sure why your graphs don't show that.
Unfortunately, the original "classic" image quality comparison page (with the actual original studio scene) is not available any more. But while it was, it was visible that the 70D was better than the 60D at noise handling in the scene. I looked at that until my eyes bled before buying the 70D. I'm actually disappointed that it was removed in favor of the new IQ studio scene.
I also owned a 60D for a while and now the 70D since September. Even in RAW the 70D is a little better (jpeg is lot better), especially when you resize 20mp to 18mp to have the same output size for both.
What's also going for the 70D, but rarely gets mentioned, is the character of the shadow noise. It's totally different from Canon's 18mp crop sensor (and I had 5 different bodies with that sensor for years, still own a 7D). It is less blotchy and is almost free of the ugly white/black specks that usually show up in the 18mp sensor at higher ISOs. It's much easier to clean up in post.
So that's my opinion.
Boky: Photos at all ISO settings, raw or jpeg, look worse than Nikon D7100. And with regard to Canon AF servo when taking standard photos, I KNOW canon can still NOT provide consistent and accurate focus with anything but a single lens paired with body.
This camera to get DPreview praises is borderline criminal.
70D jpeg actually looks better, not just to me but anyone I talked to. In RAW the 7100 is better by a bit.As for the AI Servo shots... with all due respect, where the heck did you get your info??? Check out Michael the Mentor's video on Youtube performing thorough AI Servo tests (shooting over 1500 images), where the 70D clearly beats the D7100 in tracking moving subjects. The keeper rate is not even close. And let's not even mention the difference in buffer capacity.Here:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOM4r1gxsbs
Amazing, one of the most interesting action nature shots I've seen.
Thanks! It's taking off.
My photo finished 14th place, and I'm extremely and proud of it. I totally understand that it may not be the winner in this huge pool of great photos but some people awarding it with 0.5 or 1 star??? Come on! Deliberately voting 1 star on someone else's image so his (or a friend's image) can finish higher is totally unacceptable and unethical.
Goami (and a few others in the top 10) may not have broken any rules here but just because his photo got an unreal number of 5 star votes it doesn't mean that they are the real winners (congrats #5, Tree in the Sunset!)
A few years ago the Hungarian governement tried to name a new bridge in Budapest via internet voting. People in the US heard about it in the news and thought it'd be funny if the bridge was named Steven Colbert Bridge. Fortunately cooler heads prevailed in Hungary and despite the all votes the bridge was eventually named after a famous Hungarian historic figure.
Anyway, I thank everybody who looked at my photo and liked it.
Thank you guys for the support. Yes, I am also shocked at the 1 and 1.5 star votes (while seeing dozens of 5 star votes on the top 4 photos). I bet you money some of these 1 star votes came from people who voted 5 stars on the photos finishing 1-4th place. This voting process was ridiculous. I am originally from Hungary and I did not tell anyone from my country that I had entered a competition. I wanted people from DPreview to vote on my photo.
This is almost reminiscent of the scandal when a new bridge in Budapest was to be named after whoever the internet voters choose. It was in the news in the US and people thought it'd be funny if it was named Steven Colbert Bridge. Fortunately, the government chose a famous Hungarian instead...
I am extremely happy with my 14th place and never thought I'd make it this high in the ranking out of 3000 photos, and there are a lot of super great photos here.
thank you again for the compliments.