matthew saville: Image 14 definitely shows a lot of promise WRT off-center bokeh not getting too busy and having that "tunnel vision" effect to the DOF. Good! My Sigma 35 1.4 Art bokeh is very different dead-center VS the corners, something I don't mind if I'm really killing the background with a closer subject distance, but is a bit annoying for things like full-body portraits that I'd still like to shot at 1.4.
Having said that, I dunno if I'd pay $1800 for that. My clients certainly wouldn't b the ones telling the difference, that's for sure...
Likewise I want one but am too poor till secondhand used samples pop up...in the mean time I'll stand back with a specialized portrait lens and selectively sharpen as usual.
Mike FL: There are "Super zoom" and "Mega zoom"..., and now "Serious zoom".
Lol Mike...very true.
billslatteryjr: I think you misread what may be the company's purposefully misleading advertisement. I read it as the coating allows for a 99.7% light transmission. Not the filter itself.
Good catch, because 97% is about the best surface can get. I think 99.7% for a surface and coating is not just impossible today but for the seeable future, going by what various Japanese, German, and American optical engineers have told me.
Charles Laigo: Regular cameras (non-smartphone variety) are simply becoming niche products for people who are looking to get more than your regular snapshot. Bokeh, ultra long zoom, ultra wide angle, extreme low light performance, bulb shooting, etc.
Most folks don't need all that but were forced to buy regular cameras in the past because their phones weren't up to the task until fairly recently.
I think this is correct... The majority were forced to buy cameras for simply the decent/OK photos they wanted for places, persons, events, etc. whereas photographers bought more carefully/more expensively and today they are the people who still buy cameras.
Increased laziness and lack of patience also adds to the factor of decreasing camera sales. Getting a better tool, learning to use it, and carrying it with you requires more effort and patience. I come from a family steeped in photography and still several members want nothing other than their cell phone for photos and videos.
Jonathan F/2: Best camera release this year. Makes me think the other brands are lagging.
What are the features and aspects that make you say this?
To me it seems like the other OMD models with little extra or new. I think they should have waited to release it after the EM-1 MkII so they could put 20mpix sensor in this at it's same price point. As it is I think I would just pay extra for the EM-5 MkII if getting an Olympus today.
Love this one :)
tedolf: Too little too late. I wonder if this is the beginning of the end for the M?
Last time they brought a mirrorless camera to the U.S. is was to dump them all in a fire sale.
Mike, I always want full USA warranty and I am usually cautious of Ave or St name dealers from NY and NJ since they rarely on manufacturer's Authorized Dealers lists.
tedolf, I like my firesale EOS M :)
I think this will be intentionally lowered but not firesale price after the initial wave of people willing to pay more. They for sure know people won't pay $700 body or $800 with lens. I'll add it to the collection when $400 for the body just because the little 22mm lens is so good. It has the fun, light, sharp, fast factor like with small m4/3 bodies and the 20mm 1.7
Looking at comments, must be only one glad there is no viewfinder permanently attached so when pancake is attached it is still easy to put in and take out of pockets. :/ This easier with an EOS M and 22mm than an LX100. I'm glad M3, NX500, GM1, etc. lack viewfinders.
Surprised portability seems for many to be a lessening care. Significant in showing how mirrorless have become DSLR replacements for some?
Hugo808: I had a go one yesterday. It's very slow to use. The lens doesn't focus close enough for my taste. Nicely built though.
Hugo, why would someone not want best body to go with the EOS M lenses they already own? The bodies and lenses are better built than most competitors and plenty easy to use. It's a good extra system to have.
epozar: no IS :(
straylightrun - you also can have slow native zooms, shadow with special surprise rainbow barcodes, worse in class environment sealing, battery life, trade in value/resale, etc. If it's wide-eyed enthusiast dream camera or a revolutionary pro gear...we'll see.
People seem to feel threatened Canon didn't totally abandon US mirrorless market afterall. It is fun to watch :)
Pandimonium: I need a lens with BS refraction too
aftab, great one :)
Mike, and is easy to handhold without IS or not? Should be no problem for most. The margins for pro or even advanced hobbyists who can not are too slim to add it to cost for Canon or users...in my opinion.
Dr Glyco: "Organic material" = plastic lens
Organic = opposite of plastic?
Anastigmat: Problem with mirrorless systems is that they are only compact when the camera has no lens mounted. Perhaps using a pinhole body cap would make it a truly compact camera.
True to a degree, I have taken the original EOS M with me using pancake prime in a cargo pocket and jacket pocket many, many times. Same with other mirrorless cameras without viewfinder and big grip.
tkbslc: Pretty embarrassing a day after the EM10 II launch.
Not the most packed features but EM10 II would need $1,600 Panasonic Nocticron attached to hope matching this with a cheap prime. Comparing the two is like comparing Nikon 1 series to m4/3.
DJohnny: Wow this looks identical to the Sigma 35/1.4! If not for the differences in specs, I would have thought this was a Sigma with a red logo :P
Anyway, I already like the Canon 35/1.4L, this one should have an advantage over the Sigma in AF speed and accuracy, however I do not think this is worth the extra $1000... I think people can finally stop complaining about E-Mount lenses being expensive. This one even tops the FE 35/1.4 in price!
straylightrun - we agree on this, diminishing returns. With my own money I will only pay big dollars for top end telephoto. This I would rent.
Garp2000: The export speed for the M-system is as slow as its autofocus :-)
Otto, we have NX500 for the wife's YouTube show and do love it's video AF and image quality. Will try the Eos M3 as a B camera. All the other large sensor options aside from Canon and Samsung need focus pre-set or somebody constantly pulling focus...but Sony is close 3rd and usually does good. Have used the a5100 and a6000.
If the scene has time for .5 seconds the photographer has time to brace and burst. Again not really problem for people paying this type of money - usually have photography knowledge and good ability to use it.
Personally don't want the extra cost and weight stabilization adds at wide angle. People buying a professional level 35mm F1.4 are going to shoot under 1/60 how often realistically? It's a social lens by nature. For landscape, architecture, studio, etc. if they are not using a tripod it's a knowledge issue.