DRNottage: Love my TS2, but please, Panasonic, control the noise! No, it's not smudged like my Sony WX10, but it's nasty and blotchy. Otherwise, it seems a well-designed, rugged machine- unlike the new all-touch screen Sonys!
Uhh, yeah. If you pack more pixels on a sensor, you're gonna get more noise.
StarkMtn: I've been waiting with baited breath for the TS4 to come out and alas a bit of a let down. If these specs are correct, there's not a whole lot of difference from the TS3 other than some software additions and full manual. I read a lot of gripes about the GPS function of the TS3, so hopefully this feature performs better (more than just adding enhancements). I have owned the TS1 since they first came out and it has been the absolute best rugged P&S camera I've ever owned (between camping, hiking, snowboarding, rock climbing, snorkeling and caving, things tend to get beat up and put to the test!) I think I will now "upgrade" to the TS3 (not the 4) while I still can. :(
NOO! Get the TS4! It's packed with much better features for only a meager price increase. And I've heard some complaints about the TS3's images coming out soft.
HowaboutRAW: How about RAW shooting!
How about a faster lens! (Yes, I know that would require the case to be bigger, but then it could float--or be neutrally buoyant in sea water.)
And how about fewer mega pixels--say 10--on a CMOS sensor not a CCD!
Then if Sony and Fuji are doing back illuminated senors for small cameras, it's time Panasonic start!
We would all love these features, but it would be the feature - and PRICE - equivalent of a Ferrari. Good, true, but costly. The camera makers cater to people with less money in their pockets.
ispress: Time to buy a TS3 on close-out! All I see are lots of new battery draining features and no improvement in IQ. Frankly, this also makes the new $179 TS20 look like a bit of a bargain.
A bargain indeed, for a sensor with even more pixels packed into it, a smaller zoom lens and a dimmer aperture.
Max Pometun: Would any manufacturer produce a rugged camera with an APS-C-sized sensor already? I would buy one in an instant! All these features are great, but if a camera takes noisy, grainy pictures - I'm not interested.
Excellent, good sir, you have hit the nail on the head. Use bigger sensors already!
Toby80: Weak upgrade. This is worse than apples iPhone "s" models being considered an upgrade. Nothing changed with this camera!!! They didn't address the door latch and lock moving in the same direction. They didn't move the microphone to someplace a finger won't be. They didn't even give it a better screen. Let alone a CMOS sensor! Everything that was "upgraded" could have been done to the TS3 with a firmware upgrade. SO STUPID!
Increase screen resolution. Widen the lens and/or increase the zoom to full 5x like everyone else. AND WILL SOMEONE DEVELOP A SWEEP PANORAMA LIKE SONY!!!! It's by far the best out there but Sony insists on touch screens... Leave that to the cell phone market and give me buttons!
Sorry for the rant but I've been waiting for the new models of all rugged cameras to come out to buy one. After reviewing the specs of all the new models, I decided to pick up a TS3 for cheap while they're still out there. Almost 50% off retail and they're going like hot cakes!!!!!
Very well justified rant @Toby80. I don't see what you're talking about with the door latch, but the old CCD and microphone location are in need of improvement.
However, I disagree on the suggested improvements. More pixels in a screen use more power, and that's bad. There's a limit to the lens performance that you can fit into a little box like that. And have you seen the other 5X rugged cameras? They have very dim apertures at the wide end. Panasonic prefers to stick to f/3.3 and deliver better image quality, if less zoom.
This camera is a huge improvement over the TS3 and adds a dozen new functions for a mere $30 price difference. 360 panorama, manual control and 60fps Full HD are especially good.
Hey, when it comes down to it, this is the bes sub-$500 rugged camera out there. Except perhaps for the Sony's, but the idiots went and stuck a touchscreen on those. Definitely getting this model.