Not sure if I buy that "flat scene issue" for all situations. Frim this aov, it looks like even EOS M is competition with 22mm pancake, sharpnes wise.
Zoron: Phone camera sensor unlikely to get to 1", that's too big for a phone......the direction is to get thinner not thicker........saving grace for cameramakers
Nobody ever tried that with good feature set and large capacity accu. I bet closest device is THL 5000. It sells quite well for what it is, and this message is written by that device. Gets me trough the mild working week wit ease.
1" - cropped multiaspect, with more WA lens, could make about usable medium thickness phone.In fact, there is some market for "thicker than hair" phones, with serious power (4000+mAh accu), good ergonomics and good periferies. I put my 9mm thick phone into silicone cover, to make it thicker, because with all that rounded sides and edges, it feels too thin. Unusably thin. Phone is not just fashionable gadgetery for many.... Not only me would be happy with 5,5" FullHD device, with efficient quad core, 6000-9000mAh accu (so no powerbanks anymore) hair under 1/2" thick.
Lee Jay: If they want to sell more than a handful, it needs to be $299, not $3,299.
On that I agree.
I paid $115 for white box 22mm f/2 for EOS M. These are just extremely good deals. You cannot count on that every single time for every potential user.
Lee, if that was the price of the lens, you detach it as a whole, and use another setup or lens on another camera. But you got 35mm covered... :-)
Lee, that is exaggeration. As "non Sony customer" I´d still buy it for $700-800.... It´s about good lens, and it happens to have a camera mounted to it....
whyamihere: It just occurred to me that, had the 15-45mm lens not been introduced today, Canon will have produced as many EOS-M bodies as they have available EF-M lenses.
Forget all the nonsense about the specs and ergonomics of each camera. As of today, there's only five native lenses. That's just inexplicable, especially from a company revered for their lens manufacturing prowess. Why make different iterations of a camera series when there's so few lenses to match them with?
Don't tell me that all I have to do is buy an adapter to get access to a wider variety of lenses. I shouldn't have to do that: It's a kludgy solution at best, and an exercise in frustration at worst. If, over the last few years, Sony only produced four crummy zooms and a pancake prime for the A7 series while suggesting that anyone could adapt A-mount lenses for a better range of options, most people would have lost their minds.
I'm not mad at Canon (they don't owe me anything). Their strategy is just really confusing.
Yeeee tell us how being mr.inferior means focusing on the market...
crashpc: So it is that old sensor! You must be joking Canon! :-D
It´s selfharming strategy. Really. Now I stopped buying Canon gear unless they up the game parameters wise. Who knows how long will I wait. But I guess that it will take me two years to threaten with "I´m going to jump the ship" and another year to do so :-)
So it is that old sensor! You must be joking Canon! :-D
pannumon: I do not see see a reason why small upgrades should not be made. This upgrade is for those who don't own a GR yet.
It could keep up with honor with that sensor. To keep it that way with faster lens and high resolution sensor, it should be better. Yes, the lens is very good now, but as I wrote, It needs to "cut it" that way...
Not really. Competition runs away. This one fixed lens ponny must really cut it. And it does not these days. Especially not for newcomers. It needs faster and sharper lens, it needs newer sensor, and one more good thing. And an unicorn, to succeed in tbe falling market. This, this is really bad joke.
Canon killer generally. Hey C! I´d like to buy something from you so much, but you produce so poor products these days! I´ll wait one more year, then I might really jump.
smallLebowski: Same 90's 16Mp sensor? Come on Fuji, is it all you can do? Disappointing.
Fuji is not bad. By any means. It just is not that good to most people. I´m referring to practically ANY Canon APS-C sensor, of course those newer are on the better side. Yes, Canon lacks in DR, and there are complains. Especially from minorities...I have the same issue with replacing everything. Grass is not always greener elsewhere.
Have you ever heard about "exagearion" word Txoni? :-)Of course one can do 99% of things with that good Fuji sensor, but if it had better one, there would be more people having some reason to buy it and upgrade. While I see that sensor being inferior to even that old Canon 18Mpx one in certain aspects, i see it similar way as smallLebowski. It´s not up to competition and it is not future proof. It is just another camera "overlook worthy" for too many potential customers.
Wondering who will have the balls to make dedicated telephoto camera. Something like cropped multiaspect 1" sensor @14-16Mpx, 200-1000mm f/2,8-f/5,6 eq lens etc...
T3: The size of the viewfinder is disappointing. It's even smaller than the poor viewfinder in the SL1. Canon basically upgraded the features of the T6 to be more of a mid-level camera, but then downgraded the viewfinder to below that of an entry-level camera. Canon giveth and taketh away!
Lol I workout too, but hours long camera exercise is cardio I tend to avoid. ;-) It is just not comfortable in comparison with holding a rebel, which I like more (to hold). I don't need to do fast decision, so I'll look around...
Yes, I was looking for 5D II. Still undecided. Holding pro FF DSLR for hours doesn´t sound like pleasure to do also... :-)
photominion:I won´t go backwards either. It has to be newer device, or FF, but not older crop body. It has its problems and shortcomings too. The added bulk, weight and size must bring something significant, or I also refuse to go that route. Maybe used 6D would fit me....
justmeMN well, I left SL1 ONLY because of small viewfinder and poor AF. Now with even smaller VF, you believe I come to buy T6i? Huh, good joke. I´m skipping right because of that minuscule downgrade, which was poor even without the downgrade....