Don't you find it strange that we're discussing (bashing, for most here) the K-S1 yet it doesn't show in the "most popular cameras" list?
DPReview, is the counter working?
"The K-S1's closest competitors are the Canon SL1 (EOS 100D) and Nikon D3300, both of which have lower MSRPs (not to mention street prices) and are equally capable.""Equally capable"? Even the viewfinders, or the AA-less viewfinder (with AA filter simulator)?Street prices shouldn't even be mentioned when talking about a newly announced camera's MSRP.
SirSeth: Why the cost? Just curious. It seems like a good lens but I thought Ricoh was trying to bring affordable medium format to morals.
You're joking with the "five units", but the initial production volume is a mere 300 units per month. It is indeed a low volume product.
nicolaiecostel: The aperture is not equivalent for anything, it's a fixed value. The DOF equivalence is a different thing.
People thought that if Pentax brings a cropped MF sensor to the market, in a oversized DSLR body, at 2.5-5 times cheaper than a Hassy, Phase One, they found the chicken with the golden eggs. They forgot that MF glass is MF glass expensive and all things MF come at a price.
So here you are, having just spent 5000-8500$ on a "bargain" MF Pentax, wanting to buy a modern, bespoke wide angle and realising you have to shell out 5 grand on either this zoom or that other wide angle they anounced, and that you're stuck with a cropped MF sensor that you can't remove from the camera and use in other cameras, that has 1/125 flash sync and you shoot on SD cards with limited teathering.
Why didn't they put a central shutter in the lens ? It would have been much more usefull than that OS they put in, seen the ISO and the fact that MF users shoot in controlled, stabilised environments.
In the mean time, the initial production for that "oversized DSLR" was insufficient, Ricoh Imaging couldn't make enough of them. The medium format is an expensive niche, but Pentax is less expensive, less niche and more modern/better featured (except for the lack of leaf shutters).
Ignore nicolaiecostel, he's just anti-Pentax.
Zalllon: The LCD flips up so you can take a medium format selfie.
But it isn't lighter; it's just surprisingly comfortable to hold - it has an excellent grip IMO.
suntek101: This seems to be a wonderful camera but I like to do low and high angle shooting and I have been waiting for Pentax to incorporate an articulated LCD screen into their next camera since the K10. Hopefully the "K1" will be released in a year or two and my wish will come true. Are you listening Ricoh/Pentax? Until then, I'll just dream of the K3 while making the most of my old K10!
Why I don't want an articulated LCD (though I'm not really opposed to it):- the camera will have to be thicker (which is IMO the only dimension where the K-5/3 series could lose some weight)- the LCD itself will have to be somewhat smaller - because of the added margin. The K-5/3 cameras are quite compact with lots of controls, and unless they would increase the size or move the controls around it's just not possible to make an articulated LCD of the same size as they currently have.
utomo99: For the Jpeg I hope pentax can release firmware update to improve it.
All that's needed is an user willing to set it up according to his liking.There's nothing wrong with the Pentax JPEGs IMO, even with those cameras where DPReview would claim is "soft" and not really on par with the competition.
Gazeomon: My camera purchases are not based on this sites reviews. If it were I would have lost 4 months of shooting with my very- very nice K3. Bummer that the 'Flu card' does not transfer DNG's, no shares in jpgs, no 'Flu card' for me.
You can use a trick to transfer RAW files, but you can't see them in the browser. You have to select the corresponding JPEG and rename the file extension to .DNG, and you'll be able to save the file.Search for the video review on Youtube, that's where I found about it.
cocopro: Looks like a reversed version of speed booster...
It actually looks like a rear converter.
rtogog: When I read this compatibility camera & lens, make me curious that this TC just re-badge of existing TC from third party manufacturers (Tokina, Tamron etc). Just check on the needs to update firmware for the existing body. May be some hackers will help us to make our existing AF TC to work.
Breaking news: Pentax is an optical company at heart, and knows how to make their own RCs ;)
ragmanjin: They've said in a bunch of interviews that their next MF should be mirrorless, I'm hoping that's what they're going to do. THAT would scare the pants off every other ff/mf manufacturer out there...medium format with the same quality as the latest-generation Phase/Hassy offerings at a size comparable to the D4 and D1X or even 5DIII and D800 — and a price less than the new 35mm "Hasselblad" single-lens translucent, nonetheless.
....Sorry, just drooled on the keyboard a little.On the other hand, if they pull the same "mirrorless" thing with the 645DII as they did with the K-01 (same mount and therefore size as before) I think they might miss a big opportunity. If Leica can break into the market so late with a limited line of lenses, there's no reason they shouldn't be able to change the mount to a 35mm-typical flange distance with adapters to provide compatibility to those with legacy glass.
Just my two cents.
No, Pentax/Ricoh never said "that their next MF should be mirrorless". On the contrary, their Head of Business Development stated in an interview that for now, APS-C should be the largest size they would consider for mirrorless cameras.
qwertyasdf: I guess, without question, combo of the year =Pentax K3 + Sigma 18-35
O...wait...the Sigma doesn't come in PK mount ;)
Actually the Sigma will be made available in PK mount.
beholder3: Last year - with Olympus, Canikons in the lead - the poll ended on January 1st.http://www.dpreview.com/news/2013/01/01/best-camera-of-2012-results
This time around it looks like it'll run for how long...?
Thanks for clearing this up.
Well, they clearly said which are the cameras one should vote for:"Canon's high-tech EOS 70D and Nikon's entirely unconventional (or perhaps that should be entirely traditional) Df" ;-)
justmeMN: As someone who owned a Pentax film-SLR, it's sad to see what the company has become. The company was sold, and resold, and doesn't have much of a future. In 2010 they had a whopping 1.5% worldwide market share, and it's probably even worse now.
FTR, the 1.5% figure included the compacts. Yes, all it really said is that Pentax was not encumbered with the money-losing, fast declining, companies-don't-know-how-to-get-rid-of-them compacts.In Japan, according to BCNranking, Ricoh Imaging (the company owning Pentax) has 5.2% from the DSLR market and 9.8% of the MILC one. That means growth compared to the previous year; and I expect next year the DSLR share to be larger (though most likely still single digit).
nicolaiecostel: Pentax is slowly fading due to the fact that they boxed themselves into a corner they can't escape. Olympus faded on the SLR market but jumped at the right time in the m43 boat, Samsung and Panasonic gave up on their SLR dreams for the better. Not Pentax. They keep selling "hey, look at me, I'm slightly better than that entry level/mid level canon/nikon, for less $$".
At least Sony took a different road to Canon and Nikon when they saw they cannot compete.
The SLR market is shrinking considerably and Pentax is still banging the same old drum, making a better Rebel/D5100 and a slightly worst but cheaper 7D, paired with the ubiquitous 18-55, in all it's itterations. The fact of the matter is, most Pentax users I know still use the kit lenses, and with Pentax glass getting that much more expensive lately, it's really hard to justify adding quality glass to a body that wants to sell itself as a performance bargain in comparrison to C/N. Time for Pentax to step up their game.
nicolaie, I see even now you're hating Pentax.+ Pentax is not fading, or should I say no longer fading (once Ricoh took over); hey are actually growing and will continue to do so.+ the DSLR to MILC ratio increased compared to the last year (January to October), according to CIPA. For each MILC there were about 4.6 DSLRs being made; now tell me, why should a DSLR maker be in a hurry to give up on DSLRs?+ the K-3 beats the 7D from many points of view, including image quality.+ Pentax is NOT a bargain brand.+ DPReview is not known for the best samples one could get from a camera. Those are snapshots, taken probably with a kit lens.
FinDERP: Pentax getting the recognition they deserve? Wahey!
Maybe they'll also take a look at the misaligned studio samples, be it because of the camera alignment or the lens.
ragmanjin: I don't understand how the D7100 and D610 are getting so many votes. One's a slight spec bump over the previous model with no new tech or gains or even a prettier body, so by logic should be sitting at about the same level as the K-50 or A58 here. The other's identical to its predecessor in pretty much every way, announced early and for the sole reason of averting attention from the huge quality control problems of the one it's replacing, so by logic should be sitting at the same level as the T5i (which was released to divert attention from the T4i's rubber grip allergen issue). At lease the Df looks a little different, the SL1's one of the smallest DSLRs ever, the 70D and K-3 have completely revolutionary new technologies in them and the K-500 finally signals Pentax's return to having an actual lineup of DSLRs complete with non-weather-sealed entry-level models.
Anyways, just a thought.
New features, not seen before? How about the AA filter simulator?Yes, the K-3 is a big step forward. For Pentax, because it brings many new things and solves the "catching up" issues - a much more advanced AF system linked to the 86k segments RGB metering system (both working down to -3EV); separate motors for the mirror, shutter and aperture; remote wireless control from your smartphone (with an optional FluCard) etc.And in general, because all these and the other advanced features would cost you only $1300. You even get a 23 frames buffer ;-)
Note that I'm not saying "revolutionary"; that, IMO, is no longer possible in the mature camera industry.
stevelatinner: Why are all these reviews incomplete? They've remained useless first impression reviews for months with no update. Not like the Dpreview I knew for years.
Not as long as there are Nikon DSLRs with only a preview. We all know Canon and Nikon DSLRs will generate more clicks, thus they have a higher priority.
Maybe in summer we'll see something. It will be pretty much useless by then, because a. we'll get bored after few months of dissecting the camera on the forum and b. we'll be busy discussing the next camera rumors. But this will be seen as a sign that Pentax is not popular, and not as a consequence of the delayed review.
By the way, I see the preview wasn't updated to include the studio samples. Well, they suffer from alignment problem (or maybe the lens is defective) - but even so, they're available.
Karl Summers: What's with the red ring? We supposed to think it's a Canon L?
Red ring means "HD coatings". No, you're not supposed to think it's a Canon.