Priaptor: If I were a Fuji owner, as many of you are, I wouldn't be gloating so much. The Sony NEX-7 literally blows the door off your investments, but a discussion for another time.
My take on the X series, is as an owner of an M9 who Leica is appealing to with their X line, the camera just doesn't make sense. But neither does the NEX-7 or Fuji variants, for me, no matter how compelling Sony and Fuji variants are.
Those of us already shooting with an M already have a compact and wonderful camera. I rather buy another lens.
Just my opinion.
@gullevek: have you updated your firmware to the latest version? I am totally happy now with the AF on the X100, even in low light. If yours is still slow, the problem might be in your camera.
Comparing the X100 to the NEX-7 is silly; the only thing they have in common are their sensor size, but they are completely different cameras, for different uses.
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Posted on May 11, 2012 at 10:41:58 UTC
brumd: I'm still in doubt whether I should buy the body only, or with the 12-50 lens. I like the fact that it's weathersealed, that could be really useful, but I am a bit worried how the motorized zoom affects battery life. I'm taking this camera out in the wild without any change to recharge batteries for more than a week.
Will the motorized zoom reduce the number of shots per battery dramatically, or will it be limited to, let's say, <10%? Anyone knows? Thanks!
that built in macro function sounds very interesting...
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Posted on Apr 30, 2012 at 17:32:53 UTC
brumd: I'm still in doubt whether I should buy the body only, or with the 12-50 lens. I like the fact that it's weathersealed, that could be really useful, but I am a bit worried how the motorized zoom affects battery life. I'm taking this camera out in the wild without any change to recharge batteries for more than a week.
Will the motorized zoom reduce the number of shots per battery dramatically, or will it be limited to, let's say, <10%? Anyone knows? Thanks!
@MadBob: aha! I was wondering that! OK, maybe that makes the lens interesting enough for me for €200 extra. @thewhitehawk: I was hoping that within 2 months there would be chinese alternatives available. We'll see..
Thanks for your answers! :)
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Posted on Apr 30, 2012 at 14:00:47 UTC
I'm still in doubt whether I should buy the body only, or with the 12-50 lens. I like the fact that it's weathersealed, that could be really useful, but I am a bit worried how the motorized zoom affects battery life. I'm taking this camera out in the wild without any change to recharge batteries for more than a week.
Will the motorized zoom reduce the number of shots per battery dramatically, or will it be limited to, let's say, <10%? Anyone knows? Thanks!
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Posted on Apr 30, 2012 at 11:25:41 UTC
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Neodp: Assuming one starts with a great photo (technique), and a good JPEG(embedded in the Raw), and right out of the camera, anyone can then edit it for more potential quality, and also then, for styles/treatments/presets. However, not many can actually improve them, overall! Thus, we have Light-room, and still, its not necessarily an improvement, due to subjectivity. You might like your creation. It is art, after-all. However, you may find, that unbiased viewers prefer the (good) original; after all your work. The point is, there's something much deeper, than your choice of editor. You can mess up, difficult to define realism, for one example. Much like the camera, these are just your preferred brushes. That doesn’t say, that they are all the same, however.
If you like limits, and false promises, then envoy your Lightroom. If you want state of the art (freely upgradable, to tomorrows), then you would prefer ufraw, the Gimp, an open file-manager, and all the export options.
Reading about your "smooth" workflows with your *free* programs reminds me how lucky I feel that, somewhere end 2008, I purchased a program that can take care of it all: from importing the images from the memory card to my HD and make an automatic backup, to organizing, tagging, rating and comparing view options to make a first selection, do fast non-destructive editting, make a final selection, create a collection, and do a 1 click publishing to my webspace.
Almost 4 years, and 70.000 pictures later, I have a clean database in which I can find any picture within 10 seconds, I have decent backups, I always now which version is which, I don't have any unnecessary double versions.
And whenever I feel a picture needs editing that goes beyond Lr, I can open Ps or any other editor from within Lr , so I always know that copy is going to stay with the original. Never any confusion, not even after years.
(I type this on a Ubuntu laptop; I use Inkscape, Blender, Open Office on a daily basis)
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Posted on Apr 26, 2012 at 14:14:13 UTC
So why should i buy olympus OM D EM-5 999 USD ( body only) on amazon instead of Pentax K-5 989.89 USD ( body only)? Only for tickness?
Thank you, Nicos
Nobody can answer that question for you, since you neglect to tell what you want to use your camera for.
I can only speak for myself why I choose the EM-5 as my next camera. For me, the introduction of the m4/3 system some years ago was a true blessing, since it enabled me to finally take a better camera on my travels. I do a lot of multiday mountain trekking; not only can I carry my m4/3 camera, but also 3 objectives (including a telezoom to shoot the occasional wildlife), some filters, a second camera (Fujifilm X100), spare batteries/SD-cards, and a small gorillapod tripod, all on my hip, so I don't have to take my 15-20kg backpack off to take pictures. More important: I still have enough freedom of movement to climb rocks. The EM-5 offers dramatic improvement in IQ and many other aspects compared to my current GF1.
In short: if it's important for you to have a reasonably complete camera system within reach all the time without breaking your back, m4/3 might be your choice.
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Posted on Apr 21, 2012 at 10:10:46 UTC
For a moment I thought the firmware-upgrade also dramatically improved the long writing time.. then I realized I had to switch it back to capturing RAW :/
This long time in which it is impossible to change camera settings, for me, is the only real issue with this camera. If only settings could be changed during the writing time. Otherwise, this firmware upgrade is really great. I love to have easy access to the ND-filter, and the dramatic improvement in autofocus time is awesome!
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Posted on Mar 22, 2012 at 15:13:05 UTC
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Brian Mosley: Excellent preview, this is a really exciting incremental development... At last, a m4/3rds camera to take on the best features of the E-1 and E-400. This camera will complement my X100 much better than the X-Pro 1 would have done... Provided Olympus can squeeze better dynamic range from that sensor.
How soon will dpreview get a production camera to test thoroughly?
Thanks
Brian
same here. I love my X100! Only "disadvantage" is that I almost stopped using my GF1, because of the great difference in quality; the lack in dynamic range being an even greater problem than the high ISO noise. Always a hassle to prevent blown out bits on cloudy days. The EM5 brings hope for being able to continue using my m43 objectives. I learned from my X100 that I love real dials/buttons, so I consider this a good candidate. Can't wait for the full review!
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Posted on Feb 8, 2012 at 09:06:02 UTC
Priaptor: If I were a Fuji owner, as many of you are, I wouldn't be gloating so much. The Sony NEX-7 literally blows the door off your investments, but a discussion for another time.
My take on the X series, is as an owner of an M9 who Leica is appealing to with their X line, the camera just doesn't make sense. But neither does the NEX-7 or Fuji variants, for me, no matter how compelling Sony and Fuji variants are.
Those of us already shooting with an M already have a compact and wonderful camera. I rather buy another lens.
Just my opinion.
@gullevek: have you updated your firmware to the latest version? I am totally happy now with the AF on the X100, even in low light. If yours is still slow, the problem might be in your camera.
Comparing the X100 to the NEX-7 is silly; the only thing they have in common are their sensor size, but they are completely different cameras, for different uses.
brumd: I'm still in doubt whether I should buy the body only, or with the 12-50 lens. I like the fact that it's weathersealed, that could be really useful, but I am a bit worried how the motorized zoom affects battery life. I'm taking this camera out in the wild without any change to recharge batteries for more than a week.
Will the motorized zoom reduce the number of shots per battery dramatically, or will it be limited to, let's say, <10%?
Anyone knows? Thanks!
that built in macro function sounds very interesting...
brumd: I'm still in doubt whether I should buy the body only, or with the 12-50 lens. I like the fact that it's weathersealed, that could be really useful, but I am a bit worried how the motorized zoom affects battery life. I'm taking this camera out in the wild without any change to recharge batteries for more than a week.
Will the motorized zoom reduce the number of shots per battery dramatically, or will it be limited to, let's say, <10%?
Anyone knows? Thanks!
@MadBob: aha! I was wondering that! OK, maybe that makes the lens interesting enough for me for €200 extra.
@thewhitehawk: I was hoping that within 2 months there would be chinese alternatives available. We'll see..
Thanks for your answers! :)
I'm still in doubt whether I should buy the body only, or with the 12-50 lens. I like the fact that it's weathersealed, that could be really useful, but I am a bit worried how the motorized zoom affects battery life. I'm taking this camera out in the wild without any change to recharge batteries for more than a week.
Will the motorized zoom reduce the number of shots per battery dramatically, or will it be limited to, let's say, <10%?
Anyone knows? Thanks!
Neodp: Assuming one starts with a great photo (technique), and a good JPEG(embedded in the Raw), and right out of the camera, anyone can then edit it for more potential quality, and also then, for styles/treatments/presets. However, not many can actually improve them, overall! Thus, we have Light-room, and still, its not necessarily an improvement, due to subjectivity. You might like your creation. It is art, after-all. However, you may find, that unbiased viewers prefer the (good) original; after all your work. The point is, there's something much deeper, than your choice of editor. You can mess up, difficult to define realism, for one example. Much like the camera, these are just your preferred brushes. That doesn’t say, that they are all the same, however.
If you like limits, and false promises, then envoy your Lightroom. If you want state of the art (freely upgradable, to tomorrows), then you would prefer ufraw, the Gimp, an open file-manager, and all the export options.
Reading about your "smooth" workflows with your *free* programs reminds me how lucky I feel that, somewhere end 2008, I purchased a program that can take care of it all: from importing the images from the memory card to my HD and make an automatic backup, to organizing, tagging, rating and comparing view options to make a first selection, do fast non-destructive editting, make a final selection, create a collection, and do a 1 click publishing to my webspace.
Almost 4 years, and 70.000 pictures later, I have a clean database in which I can find any picture within 10 seconds, I have decent backups, I always now which version is which, I don't have any unnecessary double versions.
And whenever I feel a picture needs editing that goes beyond Lr, I can open Ps or any other editor from within Lr , so I always know that copy is going to stay with the original. Never any confusion, not even after years.
(I type this on a Ubuntu laptop; I use Inkscape, Blender, Open Office on a daily basis)
e moez: I notice in the "specs" it says no digital zoom for the OM-D E-M5. However I see references to :
One-push 2X 'Digital Tele-converter' for doubling Optical Zoom (Full Resolution with Pixel Interpolation by TruePic VI)
in one review of the camera. So would this be a quick easy to double the focal lengths of any lenses? Does the camera indeed have this feature???
yes, according to the user manual (see p.64)
http://olympusamerica.com/files/oima_cckb/E-M5_Instruction_Manual_EN.pdf
vectranos: Hello,
So why should i buy olympus OM D EM-5 999 USD ( body only) on amazon instead of Pentax K-5 989.89 USD ( body only)? Only for tickness?
Thank you,
Nicos
Nobody can answer that question for you, since you neglect to tell what you want to use your camera for.
I can only speak for myself why I choose the EM-5 as my next camera.
For me, the introduction of the m4/3 system some years ago was a true blessing, since it enabled me to finally take a better camera on my travels. I do a lot of multiday mountain trekking; not only can I carry my m4/3 camera, but also 3 objectives (including a telezoom to shoot the occasional wildlife), some filters, a second camera (Fujifilm X100), spare batteries/SD-cards, and a small gorillapod tripod, all on my hip, so I don't have to take my 15-20kg backpack off to take pictures. More important: I still have enough freedom of movement to climb rocks.
The EM-5 offers dramatic improvement in IQ and many other aspects compared to my current GF1.
In short: if it's important for you to have a reasonably complete camera system within reach all the time without breaking your back, m4/3 might be your choice.
Jeiff: Is AF really faster in photo mode or only in movie mode?
yes, AF is really really faster in photo mode.
For a moment I thought the firmware-upgrade also dramatically improved the long writing time.. then I realized I had to switch it back to capturing RAW :/
This long time in which it is impossible to change camera settings, for me, is the only real issue with this camera. If only settings could be changed during the writing time.
Otherwise, this firmware upgrade is really great. I love to have easy access to the ND-filter, and the dramatic improvement in autofocus time is awesome!
Brian Mosley: Excellent preview, this is a really exciting incremental development... At last, a m4/3rds camera to take on the best features of the E-1 and E-400. This camera will complement my X100 much better than the X-Pro 1 would have done... Provided Olympus can squeeze better dynamic range from that sensor.
How soon will dpreview get a production camera to test thoroughly?
Thanks
Brian
same here. I love my X100! Only "disadvantage" is that I almost stopped using my GF1, because of the great difference in quality; the lack in dynamic range being an even greater problem than the high ISO noise. Always a hassle to prevent blown out bits on cloudy days.
The EM5 brings hope for being able to continue using my m43 objectives. I learned from my X100 that I love real dials/buttons, so I consider this a good candidate. Can't wait for the full review!