Lassoni: The ergonomics are getting worse and worse with every new nikon body. Not only did it take 2 years for nikon to make "movie record" button customizable for ISO, but they also happened to move the meter mode selector to somewhere really really awkward. How are you supposed to hold those top left buttons, while simultaneously trying to spin the wheel with right hand finger. You could do this with a light lens, but even then it seems risky. You run into risk of damaging your mount, because there is no ergonomical way of doing this without losing the support of your lens, which in turn is big risk when you go into lenses that start weighting more (teles are obvious and heavy, but I struggled even with a 24-70).
This is really an inexcusable design choice. As if it's not bad enough when trying to switch between AF-S and AF-C whilst trying to support a lens... Why did they even had to put the movie button in there in the first place? D7000 had it right. Y fix something that isn't broken?
It really is not that difficult.
MonteCarlo67: This new lens road map just made my day! The 16mm & 90mm will be on my shopping list. After 25+ years shooting both Canon & Nikon (more Nikon than Canon) I was hesitant to jump to Fuji. I thought, "nobody can compete with Canon & Nikon"! Now, I not only could care less about what Canon & Nikon releases, I could care less if I ever hear there names again!
Thematic: Although it has been mentioned two dozen times by others. The Sony rx10 seems so much sharper in the samples. Weird. I was hoping to save money and pick up this panasonic but now I'm hesitating.
h2k: I have only read the conclusion and i don't know this camera or its rivals from personal experience, but it seems there's a lot of solid advice here which is most helpful in the decision-making hassle regarding one's next camera.
What the heck?
Although it has been mentioned two dozen times by others. The Sony rx10 seems so much sharper in the samples. Weird. I was hoping to save money and pick up this panasonic but now I'm hesitating.
Bummer. I was interested in this camera. Seemed like fun...
But those sample photos are worse than apsc cams costing half as much.
I will rent one and try to keep an open mind.
Amnon G: 8MP frames from a video creates a whole new capability of extracting the best photo out of a video instead of continuous shooting. This could be very handy for many things, from sports to kids to animals.
Technic you are forgetting about shutter angle.
This will help you understand.
It isn't as useful as you might think. While I occasionaly do this with my red epic camera - video is typically shot at 1/50 second shutter angle to match 24fps. Neither is really enough unless you are on a tripod and your subject isn't moving as dpreviews samples prove.
You could however shoot faster but then the video becomes useless and it's back to an 8mp still vs just shooting stills at a higher resolution in the first place.
KAllen: Well on the default setting of Dpreview 25600 the 5D wins. Detail in highlights and retains colour and better tonal gradation. I was intending to get the Sony thinking it a step up for low light but Sony look to have thrown heavier software at the problem on first look.Even at 6400iso the same can be seen, weak colour, no highlight detail and poor gradation, I was hoping for better from the Sony I think I'll stick with the 1Dx for low light.
He is right - the Sony really is the best when you download the file's. The best at all iso settings.
munro harrap: Thus, as things are, the D800(E) has a sensor better than the lenses made for it, and that is its major limitation. However, IMHO removing the AA filter always produces clearer crisper results because AA filters have you view the image through a venetian blind. They imagined that using one set of lines to cancel the effects of other sets of lines was justifiable, but it produced soft results, and then these soft results had to be sharpened, increasing noise that then had to be reduced..... Easier to defocus slightly or use software to get rid of moire. Or move a little!!
So before AA removal no sensor resolved its spec at all anyway.
The biggest advantage no AA filter gives you is that you get what the lens CAN resolve, all of the time.
This is huge, enormous, as in addition sharpening the image becomes absolutely pointless, and your happy snaps are happier as there is far less noise too as a result.
I like that my "Happy snaps are happier. " - thanks for the tip!
munro harrap: Better perhaps to give one to someone who already uses a D800(E) and ask them to assess practical actual results and use with the machine itself.I use a D800 and so far no lens has 36MP resolution. They do not exist. What we see from images made on this sensor is, quite simply less resolution at a higher magnification, and clear detailing of all fringing noise and distortion that lens has. There is also a clearer across the frame indication of how bad lenses are. The 24-70mm F2.8 is a bottle now, whereas on the tiny D700/D3 image it was bearable. I am told good ones exist, but having paid twice for a new one to be horrified by results , fear the worst. You can buy better zooms for the D800 for £100, or less secondhand, if you are prepared to buy old film zooms. But I live in hope, and can hold the camera still- so possibly DD is correct, but the unsharpness of images is down to poor optics, not shake in most cases. Quieter and smoother is all to the good though.
Phathom: A fixed lens compact seems quite odd to me.
Agree with John.
I have no dog in this fight because I use Sony and Nikon but when this camera can produce prints close to my d800s.....that's amazing.
Buy all three of these for $3k and you will still save money and space vs one Nikon d808 and large lens.
These sigmas seem fun and useful to me.
Retzius: I think this thing is going to have amazing image quality. Too bad it looks like butt.
Everyone who has tried it notices superior color, dynamic range and detail 's vs outgoing models. That's saying a lot.
Are you 12?
Who cares what it looks like.
Gosman: I love this article and seems to come out of my own mouth. Indeed I'm the one on the Nikon forum that pinned the name "Guinea Pigs" upon the early adaptors of the D800. I urged everyone to wait. What I didn't know was that it would take Nikon 2 years to upgrade and make the must needed changes. It is a huge lesson to all of us about product life cycles. This is why I decided to stay with Pentax and the K-3 which is now at the height of the crop sensor life cycle. I decided to stay away from full frame for awhile and see where the product cycle takes it along with the mirror less cameras. And yes, I am a Kodachrome baby and it is the first thing I thought of when I saw the ISO (we called it ASA) was 64!
Telling people to wait 2 years? Are we kids on a playground saving piggy bank money for baseball cards or are we photo enthusiasts or pros making a living.
Life is so short.
And what does your excellent Pentax have to do with ANYTHING?
Matewka: Why small changes in Nikon D810 make 4 articles in 2 days on DPR talk about them?
Matewka my team frequently work paid gigs for REI any sharpness benefit from the reduced shutter vibration will give an edge to product shots where we would rather use 35mm vs rent haselblad mf units. There are times when products get "hot" in specific geographical areas and a call is made to us to revisit a raw file - every ounce of detail is needed if a huge print is requested.
Depends on ones needs. I make money with my Sony and Nikon tools. To me these are not small changes. These changes with make my life easier and hence boost productivity thus making me more money.
Dpreview is giving all brands plenty of coverage. Once canon release their new gear I'm sure it will be highlighted as well.
I love what Sony and Nikon are doing with their lineups.
Let's be thankful for the changes outlined in this article.
So many people forget how stunning the original d800 and d800e are. Never before in the history of photography had any 35mm digital camera come close to medium format quality - dynamic range, bit depth, resolution. These camera are not for the faint of heart. They require excellent glass and careful attention to post processing. But the results...oh my.
Such a wonderful time to be a student of photography!
Zoron: I am getting D900...not this incremental upgrade....who's with me?
Misery loves company.
What a pathetic way to live.
brendon1000: No word on the video bitrate which is currently a Canon strong point.
If the bit rate is still 28 MBps then this camera won't be able to successfully compete with the 5D Mk III.
Unless you hack the canon it can't keep up with panasonic, Sony, or black magic anyway.
You just want an all in one right? I can respect that.