Tariag: Why dropping the Zeiss name for high end? Is the license too expensive? Or is the GM range under the CZ range (between G and CZ)?
Also I wonder how this lens compares to the A-mount CZ 24-70...
Sony ALWAYS has 2 premium lens designs. G and Zeiss.
Nothing is dropped.
justmeMN: My vague recollection is that Nikon has been responding to decreased sales by concentrating on cutting costs. At some point, cost cutting results in decreased quality and/or decreased customer service.
That said, I hope that this camera turns out to be excellent, for the sake of Nikon customers, and Nikon.
Thats pretty lame. Nice try.
Bakman_29: This is called glamour photography, borderlining on "cheap" fashion. Then talking about "keeping everything real" while photoshopping the hell out of it. "fashion" is a different level.
Who the heck cares how it's classified.
Clients BUY work from her. Don't get all high and mighty and claim "fashion is a different level."
If she can sell her stuff, clients like it, and she can inspire others with her public speaking - thats 99.9999% better than most of us on dpreview.
Gratz to her.
Neodp: Here's a question? Why can't anyone make a good sensor beside Sony?
Nice try. You just compared apples to bricks. Complete fail.
Your jumping to that conclusion over a camera that isn't out yet?
"vague recollection"..... Cite one source that hints that nikon quality has the potential to drop. If not your just talking out of your azz.
GigaBrent: Hmm, 1.6x crop at 30p in 4k. If my calculations are correct, shooting 4k at 30p results in a effective sensor size that isn't much bigger than m43.
But has better color bit depth, better low light, better dynamic range.
So who cares about size if results are better.
RidgeRunner22: ah looks like they are lying about weather sealing again. Why would you do that?
PKDanny: They should make AF lenses. Or. They are lazy!!
For video perhaps.
If you google up comparisons between Samyang and Vedra - Veydra has a large edge in corner sharpness and color. I rented a M43s set and was blown away. The Veydra E-mount set should perform well.
coyot3: Somebody call sony an tell them a 32 elements lens is not a cool thing. I really want to like sony but the lens are not their thing.
Plus the 55mm 1.8 and 90mm macro..... Both two of the best lenses in the world for their price.
Course they could claim using auto focus is lazy.
Durability goes up and costs go down when auto focus is not included.
The Silver Nemesis: New (Sony) vision: "Beat Leica!"
Thats like saying Honda and Toyota worry about Koenigsegg.
Sony could care less what Leica do.
james _: Wow DPR fam, you mean that a community-based poll isn't an objective, scientifically verified research design that will inform me of what is truly the best camera that deserves an award??? How deceived I am! Woe is I, the lonely, uneducated internet wanderer who does not know any better. Shame on DPR for releasing such subjectively marred garbage.
are you ok?
Peter K Burian: In my estimation, ANY people's choice award is questionable. Have the people voting actually tested all of that equipment?
Or are they voting for their favorite brand? Or the "coolest" camera?
Even if they closely studied the previous articles, such as Best High End Cameras, their votes might make sense. But I suspect that many simply vote based on less logical criteria.
Volume sales? If something is marketed well and sells well?....So I guess McDonalds is the best restaurant right?
If you look at the Peoples Choice award as being both owned by people and or desired by people - that's somewhat valuable information. Then add in sales perhaps to get a complete picture....but again all of this is only a guide to help people chose what works best for them.
If there was only 1 best camera...there would only be ONE CAMERA. But price and features and competition between brands give all of us wonderful choice.
bgbs: Currently only Nikon has proven that its lenses last forver, because it never changed its mount.
So this exists why?
Cytokine: I dont own shares in Canon Nikon or Sony and probably neither do you. If you have not done so already do your self a favour, go and try the Canon 85mm f/1.2l mk2 on a 6D or any modern camera. Set it to 1.2 take a few photos.
Or a full frame Nikon and their 85mm 1.4d or g.
Dxo Bark and Dippy review are not known for their photographic talent. They measure scores but have no idea how to translate this to real world photography, or how this relates to human perception or vision.
If you have ever used a long lens on a small camera body you will know how hard that is. So ensure your camera can balance the lenses you hope to buy.
I hope one day Sony will produce great cameras but they are not there yet. The human eye can only see about 10-11 stops of dynamic range under quick scanning conditions your screen or printing even less.
Few people can agree on how to measure dynamic range or how Iso can be compared evenly across all cameras.Or even how raw converters can be compared.
Hold your thumb at arms length the size of the thumb nail is the area that the human eye can see in focus at one time.
Forget hype try everything for real and choose what works.
doniepock you are 100% correct- thats how every professional in the world shoots. No professional in the world wants to make sure a camera and lens are equal weight. Pointless.
XMACHINA: Sorry to say, but the rendering of skin in these portraits is very waxy. But I'm seeing the same thing in photos from the press event taken by other people using the 85mm, and with the other two newly-announced lenses.
The low ISO shots (like shot #1) look almost identical to the high[er] ISO shots (like shot #8)--like noise-reduction has flattened the tonality. I'm guessing that the cause of that waxiness has something to do with the quality the A7R II's jpegs. I would hate to find out that the waxy look is attributable to the way these G-Master lenses render.
"but ive never sen that photo before"
ITS DPREVIEWS photo! I just cropped in.
You clearly are not paying attention.
"Edit: But the rendering in your linked photo is different than the ones in the DPR gallery."
You blind? ITS THE SAME PHOTO!
maximme: Nikon cites high demand for the camera as the cause of the delay
huh?if there is high demand, it would be "sold-out" status
how could high demand cause delay to market ?
do you guys see the logic?
DO YOU SEE THE LOGIC?
You sure about that? I don't think so.
Thats a massive crop and has ample detail.
Timbukto: Just can't get along with Sony colors as they seem to have the worst asian skin tones of any brand, and my family has asian skin. Guess that makes my buying decisions racist.
Technically however everything looks great (i.e. sensor, lens sharpness, no camera shakes, etc).
"If you have ever used a long lens on a small camera body you will know how hard that is. So ensure your camera can balance the lenses you hope to buy."
The weight of the lens should always be balanced with the left hand and thats why larger lenses have tripod mounts.
Besides, if you want weight its easy to add weight to the body of an Alpha or Fuji product - buy lead tape and be as stupid as you want. Tie a sand bag to the tripod mount and go crazy.
Just don't predend that a small light camera has anything to do with undermining photography.