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Rod McD: The FF DSLR market is already well served by C, N & S and any later entry will probably struggle to compete. The FF market that is not well-served by anyone (except Leica at $10K for a very modest RF kit) is a well featured, small, AF and WR, mirrorless ILC. Sony appear to be cracking the ice with the RX1 and one wonders whether a FF ILC version - surely an NEX - will follow.
Pentax have a great reputation for producing competent, smaller, WR cameras, and I'm hoping they might tread that road rather than a FF DSLR. I can only see it being successful if they adopt a new shorter mount and sell a full function K mount adapter (and MF adapters for other brands) to capture legacy lens users.
Sony is not serving the FF DSLR market anymore. The A900 and A850 are discontinued.
Jay Jenner: The K5 was already excellent. The Mk II is a good move. What I think they should be concentrating on next is fixing their SDM problems. A refresh of the DA* series zooms in particular. They are good optically but their reputation for failure and slow focus speed is holding them back.
Actually that has been resolved too:
http://www.pentaxforums.com/news/jens-petersen-on-pentax-sdm-failure.html
The new drive is subjectively a bit noisier, but feels faster. I still have to check with an owner of the original SDM drive 16-50 and compare them side by side. Now I§m only comparing to what I remember and that is not enough.
Sony will bury Hasselblad as they buried Ericsson. The damn swedes will never learn.
Android? There are only 2 possible outcomes. Either a slow camera, or a camera that only lasts for 50 shots because it needs dual core 1,3GHz CPU.
Neither is something you woud buy.
I bought Nokia N8 this week to warm up for this. I must say I like it a lot so far. Even old N8 has great camera embedded, better than most compacts. Symbian looks like great system so far (I didn't know it before), only letdown is that most apps are not as new as the Belle system. And the HW features of N8 leave iPhone in dust (HDMI, USB host, mass storage, OLED screen...).
If only the Elop guy didn't want to kill it...
iae aa eia: One word, "WOW!" Great sensor definition, lens sharpness and color rendition. I had never expected, but, seriously, "Nokia, you're welcome to join the photography big guys club." Considering simple snapshots, what are Nikon 1 and Pentax Q systems about now?
If its calling and browsing experiences are at least good, this is gonna sell A LOT! Something not all that good? Its screen (maybe, 'cause I haven't checked it very carefully) and its design.
Nikon 1 and Pentax Q will remain - they are for guys that like to play with different lenses. I was seriously considering one of these, but then I realized my phone is almost 5 years old. I need a new one.
I believe the design is very good. It is smart - it looks very usable. As oposed to NEX. Design is not about how fashinable it looks, that is much less important than utility. This seems like a very usable camera.
It will not replace my DSLR for sports photography or report shooting, and I prefer OVF for portraits as well. But for landscapes or architecture I use only the LCD anyway.
This is like 10th camera from Samsung with front side LCD and still there are some surprised comments.
I guess it is the Wi-Fi innovation that makes this camera interesting.
Too bad it is not focused correctly. Otherwise ISO 1000 looks OK.
Yeah, it almost looks like the Q system makes sense...
I guess the aperture range will be the most decisive factor of it's success.
RonHendriks: No mentioning of those El Cheapo Pentaxian's?
Which Oly has AF better than K-5?
No improvement. Better take the S95 with it's extra buton.
D1N0: want!
For that case the Q is probably the best Pentax :-)
Muzz: Regrading camera availability for reviews I would be very surprised if DP Review had requested a camera from Pentax for enough time for a full review that Pentax would refuse such a request. I also purchased a full compliment of older Pentax 645 lenses for my 645D and have been very impressed with the quality of all of the earlier glass, have even been able to purchase a 645 mount Hartblei T/S lens which also gives great results. If possible DP Review should get hold of some of these earlier lenses as part of a full review.
Pentax is known not to supply and treat reviewers well. Dpreview wouldn't be alone in this. Some other well established camera review web sites only get Pentaxes borrowed from pentax fans, because the Pentax company doesn't care about publicity.
Graystar: I was expecting much better results. The noise is terrible...even visible when full image is viewed. Disappointing...
I believe that particular image is some error in raw processing. All others look great regrdless of ISO.
Martin Ranger: Whether the NX200 sensor is marginally better or worse than the Sony one, the differences are so small that I would argue they are immaterial in real world use. Ease of use, speed and availability of nice lenses matter much more. The one aspect where the NX200 falls short is its inability to compress RAW files. So unless the Sony has a dramatically worse user experience, that pretty much settles it for me.
Disclaimer: I only shoot RAW :)
Right, and they should use DNG too.
ARTASHES: Well well, let's see which sensor will chose Pentax for K5 replacement : Sony's 24 mp or they will return to Samsung and take this new 20mp one...
Just curious :)
The better one obviously. :-)
I'm perfectly happy with K-5's IQ so I do not plan any replacement. Still I'd like to know what is the criteria for choice. Output speed, color fidelity, power consumption, DR, Hi iso noise, low ISO resolution...
And will Nikon follow again?
Jarda_Houdek: Great, now Samsung is up to something. Pair this with good Pentax or Nikon jpeg engine and this is THE next generation sensor for DSLRs. Who needs Sony now?
The K-5. I own it. The JPG is great. Maybe not in the DPR samples but the K-5 allows the jpg sharpening, colors, curves and anything to be tweaked infinitely and saved into presets. And NR is as good as it gets - removes color noise well, leaves some luminace noise and quite a lot of details. I couldn't be happier.
And if I do not like the jpg shot I just did, I simply press two buttons and save it as a dng raw.
K-5 is the best camera so far, at least for me.
Great, now Samsung is up to something. Pair this with good Pentax or Nikon jpeg engine and this is THE next generation sensor for DSLRs. Who needs Sony now?