Papi61: In this day and age of $100 256gb and $50 128gb SD cards, IMHO I don't believe anybody really needs this gadget. How many pictures can you take in a single day?
When I trekked in the hill tribes in Thailand, I just risked it for several days without backing up... same when travelling through Vietnam, Cambodia, Indonesia...etc. I'd image the same for anyone going anywhere remote where you have to carry everything in your backpack. A rain jacket, food, water and clothes might be higher on my priority of backpack items than a 2kg laptop!
Of course, if you assume that at the end of each day you'd go back to a nice hotel with hot water and power sockets, then I agree that a laptop probably is fine.
And if you're camera only has a single SD slot? (ie. The majority of cameras)
Having had a card go corrupt on me several days into a trip along Route 66 in the US, I now always backup at the end of each day.
justmeMN: [Insert random complaint here.] :-)
Something... something... Note4 ignored, DPR must be apple fan boys... something... Canon iz dooomed... something... cameras without viewfinders are toys... my camera only got a silver, DPR are bias toward company X... Sony has no lenses...
matknu: Crap...I'm tired and read A77II...and almost woke my family.....wishful thinking I guess. However nice review. I'm really tempted to go the mirrorless way. Cameras are darn good these days. I'll try the A7ii at my camera store next week...and also the a6000...
@DanShhh.... you'll awaken the A77II hounds if you're not careful.
RonGreer: very accurate review.
I just returned the A7 mk2 I was considering buying as I couldn't see a real advantage over my D750. First the D750 is only 5 ounces more in weight, and yes a bit bigger; but not that much. The lenses are the same size and weight as their Nikon equivalent (50 f1.8g, 70-200 f4, etc) yet cost more. Trying to use my Leica lenses was a joke, always needing to focus wide open, then stopping down to shoot, then start the whole process again. No Thanks!
But it was the weight and added-on look about the thing that finally made me return it. too bad, I really wanted to like it.
How was using your Leica lenses on your Nikon?
KNich: Hmmmm?? The Sony Alpha A6000 gets a score of 80% and receives a Gold Award. The Olympus EM5 MKII gets a score of 81% and receives a Silver Award. Doesn't make sense to me. I've got the new EM5 MKII with the Olympus 75-300 lens and it's producing as good if not better nature photos than my Nikon D7100 with the 80-400 ED VR lens. And I've been hand holding the EM5 MKII, while with my Nikon set up I either use a monopod or tripod. The EM5 MKII is awesome. You need to change your score to 'Gold' on this camera.
The A6000 is near half the price, has faster focusing, and a better sensor*. I can fully see why it justified a Gold, can't you?
Not knocking the EM5 II, which looks amazing and I also thought deserved a gold, but its price bracket puts it against the Sony A7m2.
*Page 8. "When it comes to Raw, the E-M5 II appears to give a very similar performance to its predecessor. This means it's still competitive against some Canon APS-C cameras, but lags behind the likes of Sony's a6000 or Nikon's D5500."
Horshack: Welcome to iteration city, population you.
There's are exits marked Olympus, Sony, Panasonic and Fujifilm to name a few ;-)
Naveed Akhtar: how's the live view auto focus performance .. any improvements ((
@Der SteppenwolfLive view is for assessing correct exposure, white balance, DoF and being able to nail focus, not just for "holding camera at an arms length".
Arguably live view IS for the enthusiast who cares about the end photo.
Russell Evans: "Some of us have been around long enough to remember the last time Pentax announced a full-frame DSLR, way back in 2001."
And some of us are smart enough to know isn't the same company making this announcement.
The point is, if you are nitpicking someone else, you must expect the same treatment back... and as far as I'm aware (please correct me if I'm wrong), being legally blind shouldn't stop you from seeing the irony.
If you're claiming to be smarter than the DPReview staff, at least start by getting all the words down correctly in that sentence.
/Just my tuppenceworth.
Richard Murdey: "If autofocus, low light performance or resolution are higher priorities than size, then I'd encourage you to look at the GM5's highly capable APS-C peers."
What does autofocus have to do with sensor size?
...But earlier in the text from the same page the APS-C Sony A6000 was mentioned as a potential peer to the GM5. Given that the Sony does indeed have faster autofocus, better low light performance and higher resolution I'd assume that's what the reviewer was referring to when he wrote "APS-C Peers".
Rishi Sanyal: Were all the slides shot on a Nikon D750? Cuz I see flare & banding at the upper left of every slide.
I love that DPReview editors have a healthy sense of humour ;-)
All worthy winners, although with Sony top for two categories, and runner up for a third, I'm curious how this comments section will pan out.
Just imagine the shock horror if the Sony/Zeiss 55/1.8 had made it into the lens list, the interwebs could have exploded (thankfully that was a 2013 lens!)
Rob Sims: DPReview Staff - possible suggestion:When you do these in future, could you also take the same photo with a standard high-end stock camera (eg. Nikon D810 / Canon 5D m3) so we can have something to compare it to? It surely wouldn't double the workload as you're already there taking the photo, but would kill half the negative comments that seem to appear after each of these real-world samples are published.
Disclaimer: This was already mentioned somewhere below, but I think the original comment was meant in jest, despite it actually being a good suggestion.
1. Even if Canikon is not the "standard" (which I believe they still are, and will be for practical purposes for a while), we still all know what their output is.
I'd argue it doesn't matter what camera was used along side it, so long as it was a camera that had already been available on the market and received a full review.
2. All the better for DPReview's stats ;-)
3. What's the point of sample pictures if not for comparison? I hardly think those interested in a new camera would not already have an existing camera and want to know the difference.
DPReview Staff - possible suggestion:When you do these in future, could you also take the same photo with a standard high-end stock camera (eg. Nikon D810 / Canon 5D m3) so we can have something to compare it to? It surely wouldn't double the workload as you're already there taking the photo, but would kill half the negative comments that seem to appear after each of these real-world samples are published.
HGFGKM: I would have liked to have seen some with the kit lens (Sony FE 28-70). After all, this is what most people who buy it will start using it with.
Really? When the A7/A7R were released last year in Singapore, the A7 w/o kit lens was sold out, also the A7R... many people bought the A7 w/kit lens and then subsequently sold it off as they had little interest in it.
Don't know where you got your facts from, perhaps link your source?
steelhead3: It is neat that the minor players are upping their game...fuji is showing innovation slowly but surely.
@Just a PhotographerI owned the Zeiss 24-70/4 and it was excellent, only decided to sell it to fund the Zeiss 16-70/4 for use on an APS-C body. Colour and micro-contrast were excellent on my A7... noticeably better image quality than the 24-70 I used to use on my Nikon D700... despite be half the weight.
Don't believe everything you read on the internet. Actually try using some of these lenses yourself.
Rob Sims: One of the missing lenses for Sony e-mount... sigh.
(Disclaimer, I own the 16-70/4 and love it, but sometimes it'd be good to get a little more subject isolation from an F2.8)
I'd say a fast constant F2.8 zoom would definitely be a welcome lens for e-mount (both APS-C and FF). Olympus and Panasonic have m43 versions (although with the reduced DoF that the half-frame gives you), Nikon and Canon have them for both APS-C and FF, and now so does Fujifilm for APS-C.
As I'm already heavily invested in e-mount, I'm less interested in which lenses are 'missing' in other systems. Not sure what the 16-70/4.0 has to do with this, I own this lens and it's great but F4.0 is not F2.8.
Josh152: About the name,
Nikon is probably trying make the naming so it's more simplified and clear what the current generation cameras are and it will end up being D3500,D5500,D7500,D750,D850,D5 That is less confusing and looks better than D3400,D5400,D7200,D750,D820,D5. If Nikon kept the naming going as it was the D7xxx and D8xx would always seem a couple generations behind. If they do the naming of future models like I think they will than it will be a lot easier to tell what cameras are the current model.
@joshOkay, then explain to me where the D400 is...
/I kid ;-)
Sure, but there's a huge jump in cost of lenses when moving from aps-c to FF... well, in the Sony/Zeiss world that is!
Disclaimer: I also own an A7 ;-)