Yanko Kitanov: Interesting - now that everybody knows that the IQ of Leica cameras is no way better than that of alternatives costing times less - will people still be willing to pay for a plastic red dot only?
Everybody also knows that most nikkor glass is not good enough for the D800e..(I have one... ) Leica make great glass and the glass is a large chunk of what gives the look...
Benarm: Another step by Leica towards the legacy of Kodak and Polaroid. You can use past brand image and recognition only so much.
Leica ius a profitable business,and plenty of "real" photographers are using Leica camera's...
Foveon is great for lansacpe and architecture but I think it's a little harsh for portraits and fashion,the skin tones are less appealing than those from a Bayer sensor..
Scorpius1: Photoshop cs5,5.5 and 6 will work fine for many years,ACR is not worth worrying about,just use a good raw converter to output tiff's or even DNG's for use in photoshop... Capture one pro,DXO,iridient developer,photoninja etc will do an equal or better job of raw conversion,,,
If more people contacted DXO about adding support they may respond,their customer service is responsive .. I use Capture one pro myself and occasionally DXO,My point is that there is no need to panic about adobe's selfish behaviour,I know working pro's still using old versions of photoshop,incidentally Capture one pro could do with some improvement in terms of support for more lense's,the tool for removing C.A's is very limited compared to LR,if your lenses is not supported your out of luck... we as consumer's should pressure the various developers for the improvement's we require/want to see...
Photoshop cs5,5.5 and 6 will work fine for many years,ACR is not worth worrying about,just use a good raw converter to output tiff's or even DNG's for use in photoshop... Capture one pro,DXO,iridient developer,photoninja etc will do an equal or better job of raw conversion,,,
one of the big advantages of Aperture is that most of your photoshop and lightroom plug-ins will work perfectly with it...
Corel After Shot (cross platform)RawTherapeeDarkTableDigikam
Also photoninja and photoline... PhotoNinja is an alternative for LR and Photoline is an alternative for Photoshop...
King Penguin: I use PS Elements.......what's the future for this?
Rage Joe: Dear dpreview,
Could you, please, test all the best software for photographers, except Abobe's completely untrustworthy offerings.
Capture one pro is awesome,photoninja is pretty good too,on one perfect layers for effects or Nik...
Reilly Diefenbach: Or you could do the D800e and the 80-400VR and be a lot sharper for half the price :^)
How do you know it's sharper??
Like all the big canon lenses it will be cheaper on the street,give it a few months for the early adaptor's...
chlamchowder: The Nikon AF-S 200-400/4 VR II is $6750, and the TC-14E is $500. Together, they would cost $7520.So, the question is, is the convenience of having the teleconverter built in worth $4480?
This is RRP,the street price will drop considerably as always.
BobYIL: In two years +50MP sensors will find their way into the DSLR bodies. With Phase One and Leaf Credo already offering 80MP MF sensors I wonder how Leica S-series will survive with the smallest size 37MP MF sensor.
@Joseph S ... CMOSIS will make it for them..
peevee1: Color depth and DR are easy. Take D800E, take a sequence of a few shots from a good tripod with mirror locked at base ISO (basically how the MF backs are used; and a few shots on D800E will still take less time than a single shot from those backs), stack them and you have as much DR, color depth and as little noise as you want.Resolution is a different matter. For still subjects you can take many shots with tele lenses and combine them, just 2 shots in portrait orientation with D800 will have more resolution then the 60 mpix backs. For living moving subjects it will not work, although using 2 D800 (still so much cheaper) fired remotely at the same time might.
The bottleneck might be lenses though. Very few lenses can come close to resolving more than 20 mpix on D800. Are MF lenses any better?
"Are MF lenses any better?" Medium format lenses are much better.. the HC120m mk2 can resolve 120MP...
Spectro: that is a beautiful camera, I would only image what the Iq is like. Too bad I rather buy a car for the same price. How much tech and energy goes into a car compared to this little device is a joke. So this camera is more for bragging right and for a few professionals.
The other thing you should keep in mind is that these lenses take a lot of time and money to design,and if you think they're expensive look at Zeiss Master Anamorphics at $40,000 each... These S lenses are made and assembled by hand to very tight tolerance's,the waiting lists can be very long..
It's half the price of a phase one iq280 back...
Micheal Reichmann ,who is a well known phase one user had this to say about S glass.. " As for optical quality, if Leica's century-long history as one of the world's great lens makers, the S2's published MTF charts, and my own initial testing are any indications, these may be among the finest photographic lenses ever made."
CameraLabTester: Hey, Leica... you know what?
I would rather have a Leica made 3rd party lens mounted on my ________ (insert your favorite DSLR here), rather than this sluggish tank headed for oblivion.
A whole heap of more potential customers will buy your lenses than your Jurassic camera bodies.
Go where you shine brilliantly: LENSES, LENSES and LENSES.
Don't be ashamed to emulate Sigma, Tamron and Tokina... you can easily smoke them in just a few years.
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" rather than this sluggish tank headed for oblivion." it's lighter than a nikon D4 and not much heavier than a D800 or 5Dmk3 and it allows you to use incredible lenses.. (I have a d800E as a street camera,I like it as lot) S glass is heavy but thats the price for the level if IQ they deliver to a large sensor..
JordanAT: This is good news for everyone who swears by their Leica glass and wants to continue shooting with it. The problem is that every digital camera is disposable these days - you're essentially buying a "lifetime film and processing package" onto which you put your lens.
To make matters worse (or better, depending on your point of view), the serious advances in digital film are occurring in the 24x36mm and smaller sensor sizes. What good is a photoreceptor site with 1.5X the area when the technology behind it is 1/3 as sensitive and more subject to spurious electrical signals (noise).
IMHO, it might be worthwhile if you were trading absolutly sensor performance to leverage existing inventory of (very good) glass. But you're not - you have to go buy all new glass. And since SLR manufacturers have been designing glass for digital sensors for quite a while now, they have the jump. Unless you need MF to feel superior, or justify your fee, there is little or no practical case for using it.
"there is little or no practical case for using it."... leaf shutters and huge viewfinder and IQ is still better..
The S will move to a higher MP cmos sensor ..