plevyadophy: Review of this lens===========
For those who wish to read a review of this super lens, go here: http://diglloyd.com/articles/ZeissZ/ZeissZ-Otus-55f1_4.html
It seems that at last, there is a lens that can match the super high pixel count densities of the latest generation of of DSLRs; and reading the review, it seems that with this lens mated to the Nikon D800 there is even less need for entry level medium format (and begs the question "what purpose does the Leica S serve?"). I guess now, medium format doesn't make much sense unless you start from the 50Mpix systems.
@ HowaboutRAW.. I never even go above base ISO on medium format ,but when you have already shelled out big bucks for a Medium format kit the extra money for a D800 or something simliar for low light/high ISO seems reasonable,All the Medium format shooters I know have 35 mmDSLR's,I think that we will see CMOS based medium format camera's very soon,but at the moment I still think the CCD sensor's at base ISO produce better colour ..
@plevyadophy,I agree Leica needs to keep up with the game,but they have been working hard to develop glass for the S system and have just released the new 45mm,I would bet my Bottom dollar that cmosis will make the cmos sensor for the next S,they already manufacture a 70mp F.F sensor(http://www.cmosis.com/products/standard_products/chr70m ).. I have a lot of experience with the S system and also shoot Nikon,I really like my D800E but the S system has amazing glass and the CCD sensor produces beautiful colour,the ability to flash sync at 1/1000 sec is also extremely useful for controlling ambient light,and the lenses are fast by medium format standards,and the glass is superb wide open ...
Henry M. Hertz: don´t know you but i rather buy this..
@HowaboutRAW.. "Well that's a medium format lens and it's only a Fuji lens." HC lenses are designed by Per Nordlund from Hasselblad,and Fuji make some of the best optics on the planet,movie lenses and military grade lenses.. besides Zeiss is mader by cosina in japan..I have used Zeiss lenses,and also HC lenses and HC glass is excellent
As for the HC 50mm mk2.. it has leaf shuuters and A.F,and stunning I.Q,I would take it over the Zeiss any day..
JimWongyyz: This is one ugly lens. Do you guys agree ?
It looks very professional.
Cameron R Hood: They will sell about a dozen of these...maybe. Completely ridiculous, pretentious, and delusional.
They'll sell hundreds and they will sell for years to come,I wouldn't buy it but its a great lens..
CFynn: They are aiming this at people who will buy this type of lens and a high megapixel DSLR - instead of a medium format digital camera and lenses which together would be far more expensive.
The cheapest lens you can get for the Leica S2 system is Summarit-S 70mm f/2.5 - $5K
Would be interesting to compare that lens on an S2 to this on a D800E
Once Sony upscale their 24mp APS-C sensor to full frame, we will be seeing 56mp DSLRs at around the same price as a D800. An S2 body costs $22K is only 37mp and the sensor is really not that much bigger than "full frame"
The Summarit has two big advantages,(A)A.F and (B) leaf shutters,and the Color from the Leica S is imho better than from the D800E
This lens offers a state of the art design from Zeiss,but with compromises,very heavy at 1kg,no A.F and very pricey.. It will sell to a small market that has a lot of disposable income and wants to have a "special" lens,for most of us it is just not worth the investment,Nikon's 50mm 1.2 manual focus would be more than sufficient.
misha marinsky4: I read diglloyd's review.
Here's my request: DPR has a double blind print test, Zeiss vs Sigma. 11x14, four apertures: 1.4, 5.6, 8, 16.
Would the Zeiss do better than 50/50, which is random?
@plevyadophy... I have a D800E and its great but medium format has leaf shutters and huge bright viewfinders... not to mention autofocus..
GatanoII: This Zeiss words are ridiculous.
I don't know what they smoke at Zeiss, but this piece of glass has a lot of compromises as an almost perfect 50/55mm lens in 2014 needs to have extremely fast (and silent) USM AF and (at this price) also the best optical IS is a must have, next time add AF and IS and ask more money
The people ready to pay that much for such "normal" piece of glass are few, but a lot fewer are the ones that will accept this price without AF.
Most famous fashion photographers will do just fine with a 24-70F2.8 (and a 70-200F2.8) but if you want to go with primes for faster glass for the similar price of this one you get a 50F1.2 an 85F1.2 and a 135F2, tell me how this 55mm is going to give better fashion photos that this trinity.
BTW just to name one, Annie Leibovitz used(uses) the old version I Canon 24-70mm and got good results (and money from fashion magazines)
Annie Leibovitz uses a Hasselblad with phase back for most of her high end stuff,although she does use Canon a lot too..
Rod McD: A kilogram and $4,000? While I don't doubt that it will be an excellent lens, I think I can live happily enough without it. There are after all, some excellent 50mm and 55mm lenses out there. Zeiss seem to have over-looked that size, weight and price are themselves a compromise. And do we really have to have lenses named after birds? What's next? Not a dodo, one suspects. A Hoopoe, an Emu or a Puffin? Anyone?
the 50mm summicron APO is 1/3 the weight of this and awesome wide open.. pity its even more expensive
mpgxsvcd: Hasselbad thinks this is a good deal. They might want to re-badge one with an all wood finish.
Hasselblad offer a superb 50mm HC lens with Autofocus and leaf shutters which is only 650bucks more than this at B&H photo.. unless I really needed 1.4 I would buy the hasselblad lens every time over this..
Hauer: Lens prices are really becoming absurd!
And they're going to get worse ...
huyzer: I would like to see samples (with no software defringing) in these two situations:
1) Backlight objects that are dark, against a bright sky, to see if there's purple/blue fringing. 2) Bright shimmering ripples gleaming with the Sun's light in front of the camera (like the backlit scenario), to also test the above.
@Hiepphotog: Yeah maybe just a little better at handling flare but it's 3x the weight of the Cron APO... too heavy to carry around I think
Leica S lenses are as good or better than this and have Autofocus and leaf shutters with a huge bright viewfinder... so in my opinion the question is why spend this much on a 35mm format manual focus 55mm lens .. and the Leica S sensor with D800 size pixels is over 70MP and with D7100 pixels is over 100MP.. big sensor is always better
vFunct: I guess they compromised on the auto-focus...
SeeRoy: Now and again, whatever you think about Krockwell, he speaketh the truth.
"Zeiss 55mm f/1.4 ZF2 für Nikon... Normal lenses for the truly crazy.For $4,000 instead of one-tenth the price or less, you get a much heavier lens with no autofocussing. Wow! Chart shooters will love these giant lenses. Zeiss makes the lenses we use to read newspapers from space, but we don't need that much performance for creating art — but don't let me stop you!I'll bet you there's no visible differnce between these and the Nikon 55mm f/2.8, which is an extraordinary lens, and autofocuses, for about $175 used..."
It takes all kinds: Lloyd Chambers is swooning with pleasure and breaking out his charts. Just the lens you've always needed for shooting that decaying mountain cabin.
@Anastigmat;The Nikon 50mm 1.2 manual focus lens will do what you mention for a hell of a lot less..
Robgo2: Anyone who cannot see the superor output from Photo Ninja is either in denial or needs an eye exam. And this superiority holds for other cameras and sensors as well.
Really??I have PN,it's quite good but I prefer C1P7 for most of my files,DXP is also very good and I prefer the UI,there ids no RC that is absolute best for every sensor,DXO will be best for some files,C1P for others,I prefer the colour from C1P to PN...
Maciejewski: Wonder if they need testers for this lens. I'm available!!!
This is pretty light compared to the 400mm 2,8 mk1...
Amazing lens,all we need now from canon is a top knotch sensor,and maybe they can knock a few hundred grams from the weight of the 1DX successor while they at it..
Sigma is a company in ascension,and It's nice to witness someone shaking up the Japanese paradigm ..