cruz031: 45mm f/2.8 for more than 5000 pounds? Nice try Leica, but at Olympus, one can get 45mm f/1.8 lens for a lot less money! 350$ to be precise.... That's almost 20 times cheaper! I don't see why would anyone be interested in this (overpriced) 36mm f/2.2 (in the terms of DOF, not the Speed!) full frame equivalent lens......
Sam Carriere: Amazing what some people will pay for a logo.
Have you used an S?? I doubt you have,it a fantastic piece of equipment and half the price of a phase IQ180
attomole: Wonder how it compares to SIgma 1.4 DG on a D800, anyone done the math! ;-)
I own both.. Leica S is better..
Mr Fartleberry: Homage to Noct? What marketing pig hooey. Maybe if it was 1.2 or 1.0. It's a 1.4 lense, nothing to see here.
But they sure are hooked on grabbing two thousand dollars for mid-range primes now. The Vampire is back as Hogan would say.
"But they sure are hooked on grabbing two thousand dollars for mid-range primes now." Its better than paying 4000 for the Zeiss,is 600grams lighter and has autofocus
This is interesting,a lot cheaper than the Otus and decent MTF,I like the 9 bladed aperture and it has a low weight compared to the Otus (385grams vs 1000grams)
PenGun: Has to be the same sensor, well updated perhaps, as the one on the D800. So weather sealed, medium format really, wonderful dynamic range and a grand cheaper. Poor Nikon what a brutal hit.
Nikon offers a complete system and huge array of glass.. this camera hasn't got much in terms of a system
Henry M. Hertz: im impressed.. some noobs here can judge the DR capabilities of a camera just by looking at images.no need for scientific test .... they can say "that´s 12 stops of DR and that´s 14 stops of DR" just by looking at JPG´s... wow.
yet... when we compared images from a D800 and 60D in our photo club NOBODY could tell one from the other.
we resized them and our members should tell which have an higher DR and are taken with the D800 and which have a lower DR and taken with the 60D.
try it yourself..... resize ISO 100-200 images to the same pixel dimensions and let "experts" ..cough.... look at them without knowing which camera made them. you will end up with a statistical 50:50 result. same as if you where just randomly guessing.
nobody in our photo club had more then 55% correct.sadly for the nikon fanboys.... :)
and that´s on the MONITOR..... now PRINTS will make the discussion absolutely useless..... but keep on talking about DR you noobs.
I agree it can be hard to tell the difference in a clean print but it's easy to differentiate in a raw converter where you can easily see the d800's ability to recover shadows and highlights..I like canon cameras but the nikon sensors are better.. hopefully canon will bounce back next year with a true successor to the 1DSmk3 and a 5Dmk4
Mike99999: With the FF NEX around the corner, even if the D600 drops to $1000 I would not touch it.
Buying a FF Nikon or Canon is like buying a giant CRT screen. It's ancient technology. The D600 and 6D are a desperate last fart from Canon and Nikon to push their remaining stock as the world switches to mirrorless.
Good luck with shooting sports with a super tele and your NEX
Henry M. Hertz: don´t know you but i rather buy this..
@ HowaboutRAW.. I have a lot of experience with HC glass.. the HCD28,the HC120 mk2,the 35-90mm and hc210 and hc300 are nothing short of excellent (I'm still waiting to try the HC150N),I know people that have purchased the new 50mm mk11 and its a very high performer.. there are tests that compare the HC glass to the old gassy/Zeiss glass and the HC is better in tests..
plevyadophy: Review of this lens===========
For those who wish to read a review of this super lens, go here: http://diglloyd.com/articles/ZeissZ/ZeissZ-Otus-55f1_4.html
It seems that at last, there is a lens that can match the super high pixel count densities of the latest generation of of DSLRs; and reading the review, it seems that with this lens mated to the Nikon D800 there is even less need for entry level medium format (and begs the question "what purpose does the Leica S serve?"). I guess now, medium format doesn't make much sense unless you start from the 50Mpix systems.
@ HowaboutRAW.. I never even go above base ISO on medium format ,but when you have already shelled out big bucks for a Medium format kit the extra money for a D800 or something simliar for low light/high ISO seems reasonable,All the Medium format shooters I know have 35 mmDSLR's,I think that we will see CMOS based medium format camera's very soon,but at the moment I still think the CCD sensor's at base ISO produce better colour ..
@plevyadophy,I agree Leica needs to keep up with the game,but they have been working hard to develop glass for the S system and have just released the new 45mm,I would bet my Bottom dollar that cmosis will make the cmos sensor for the next S,they already manufacture a 70mp F.F sensor(http://www.cmosis.com/products/standard_products/chr70m ).. I have a lot of experience with the S system and also shoot Nikon,I really like my D800E but the S system has amazing glass and the CCD sensor produces beautiful colour,the ability to flash sync at 1/1000 sec is also extremely useful for controlling ambient light,and the lenses are fast by medium format standards,and the glass is superb wide open ...
@HowaboutRAW.. "Well that's a medium format lens and it's only a Fuji lens." HC lenses are designed by Per Nordlund from Hasselblad,and Fuji make some of the best optics on the planet,movie lenses and military grade lenses.. besides Zeiss is mader by cosina in japan..I have used Zeiss lenses,and also HC lenses and HC glass is excellent
As for the HC 50mm mk2.. it has leaf shuuters and A.F,and stunning I.Q,I would take it over the Zeiss any day..
JimWongyyz: This is one ugly lens. Do you guys agree ?
It looks very professional.
Cameron R Hood: They will sell about a dozen of these...maybe. Completely ridiculous, pretentious, and delusional.
They'll sell hundreds and they will sell for years to come,I wouldn't buy it but its a great lens..
CFynn: They are aiming this at people who will buy this type of lens and a high megapixel DSLR - instead of a medium format digital camera and lenses which together would be far more expensive.
The cheapest lens you can get for the Leica S2 system is Summarit-S 70mm f/2.5 - $5K
Would be interesting to compare that lens on an S2 to this on a D800E
Once Sony upscale their 24mp APS-C sensor to full frame, we will be seeing 56mp DSLRs at around the same price as a D800. An S2 body costs $22K is only 37mp and the sensor is really not that much bigger than "full frame"
The Summarit has two big advantages,(A)A.F and (B) leaf shutters,and the Color from the Leica S is imho better than from the D800E
This lens offers a state of the art design from Zeiss,but with compromises,very heavy at 1kg,no A.F and very pricey.. It will sell to a small market that has a lot of disposable income and wants to have a "special" lens,for most of us it is just not worth the investment,Nikon's 50mm 1.2 manual focus would be more than sufficient.
misha marinsky4: I read diglloyd's review.
Here's my request: DPR has a double blind print test, Zeiss vs Sigma. 11x14, four apertures: 1.4, 5.6, 8, 16.
Would the Zeiss do better than 50/50, which is random?
@plevyadophy... I have a D800E and its great but medium format has leaf shutters and huge bright viewfinders... not to mention autofocus..
GatanoII: This Zeiss words are ridiculous.
I don't know what they smoke at Zeiss, but this piece of glass has a lot of compromises as an almost perfect 50/55mm lens in 2014 needs to have extremely fast (and silent) USM AF and (at this price) also the best optical IS is a must have, next time add AF and IS and ask more money
The people ready to pay that much for such "normal" piece of glass are few, but a lot fewer are the ones that will accept this price without AF.
Most famous fashion photographers will do just fine with a 24-70F2.8 (and a 70-200F2.8) but if you want to go with primes for faster glass for the similar price of this one you get a 50F1.2 an 85F1.2 and a 135F2, tell me how this 55mm is going to give better fashion photos that this trinity.
BTW just to name one, Annie Leibovitz used(uses) the old version I Canon 24-70mm and got good results (and money from fashion magazines)
Annie Leibovitz uses a Hasselblad with phase back for most of her high end stuff,although she does use Canon a lot too..
Rod McD: A kilogram and $4,000? While I don't doubt that it will be an excellent lens, I think I can live happily enough without it. There are after all, some excellent 50mm and 55mm lenses out there. Zeiss seem to have over-looked that size, weight and price are themselves a compromise. And do we really have to have lenses named after birds? What's next? Not a dodo, one suspects. A Hoopoe, an Emu or a Puffin? Anyone?
the 50mm summicron APO is 1/3 the weight of this and awesome wide open.. pity its even more expensive
mpgxsvcd: Hasselbad thinks this is a good deal. They might want to re-badge one with an all wood finish.
Hasselblad offer a superb 50mm HC lens with Autofocus and leaf shutters which is only 650bucks more than this at B&H photo.. unless I really needed 1.4 I would buy the hasselblad lens every time over this..