People should stop whinging about the price of this amazing lens,it is still far cheaper than a Noctilux or Cron 50mm APO and they don't have A.F either,this is a brilliant piece of optical engineering and I will by buying one as soon as I have the greenbacks to spare.. Roll on the 85 and wide angle version's,, ;-)
Jogger: Zeiss is betting/expecting that FF will eventually supplant MF.. 56mp FF will be the next jump in resolution, and that is only a few years away. The Otus line is being positioned as the premium, no-compromise lens of choice when this eventually happens.
And the next jump in Medium Format will be 120mp sensors.. D7100 pixels (3.9micron's) on a IQ F.F sensor will yield 145MP...
wireless: I guess you guys won't be happy until you get it for free. Education, health care, food, college, housing, only when it's for free. Plenty of other products out there. Can't afford $120/yr - you should let your camera make jpg's and edit for you. I guess a $100 a month for cell phone or cable TV is okay but $10 for LR and PS is outrageous.
No one expects it for free,we want to buy our perpetual license like we always did...
Adobe is doing its best to lure you into their crap subscription model.. don't take the bait..
This is brilliant and free top try it out,also has an adjustment lever function.. http://www.phaseone.com/en/Imaging-Software.aspx .. rather buy from P1 than rent from adobe..
Greg Gebhardt: I have been with Adobe from the beginning but will not upgrade again. I want to own my software. Same with MS Office.
Adobe must be hurting trying to sell this new cloudy software or they would not be offering a discount.
Adobe is also guilty of letting scammers steal our CC information and I will not allow that to happen to me. Lets all stick together and we can get Adobe to change their mind!
Even use of the name "cloud" is a misnomer,it is subscription and nothing more... screw Adobe and their rent ware.. no cloudy days for me,Capture one pro,DXO and photo ninja are three awesome alternatives that you can own..
We will never the truth about this shot(excuse the pun).but its clear that it has become an iconic image which is synonymous with war and Robert Capa himself.
Just tried this out on a D800E file shot at base iso in daylight,it produced a very nice jpeg,good highlight recovery and great colour and detail.. it's a nice app,just like to see them keyboard shortcuts for toggling the palettes and profotoRGB,still doesn't handle Leica S dng's either.. overall I like it though..
LukeDuciel: The MTF of the Nikon new "noct" has nothing exciting compared to Zeiss Otus 55mm.
Not sure why Nikon built this thing. Probably for the loyal fans?
The Nikon MTF: http://imaging.nikon.com/lineup/lens/singlefocal/normal/af-s_nikkor58mmf_14g/index.htm#photo1
Zeiss MTF: http://lenses.zeiss.com/content/dam/Photography/new/pdf/en/downloadcenter/datasheets_otus/otus_1455.pdf
Why buy it??it has A.F and weighs only 385grams... and it's less than half the price..
3systermuser: this is definitly overpriced in any sense , Leica S is not real MF , it does not even allow us to swap backs.the real digital MF is called Phase One , I do not even consider current digital Hassel Blad as real MF system(it is not Fullframe MF).anyway, this lens should be priced around 3k , think about even the large format or real MF Rodenstock lenses cost only 4 -5k , so people who are not collector or brainwashed Leica name lover never pay this kind of money for just 37.5 mp camera system using gens behind Kodak CCD.in fact , this camera does not resolve any better than the cheap Nikon D800E, Lloyd proved it, if you do not believe this , go Lu-la or Getdpi MF forums or even better go directly to Lloyd's site, he compared the Zeiss 135mm APO for F vs Leica 125mm f2.5 for the S , and the Zeiss was sharper.
that said , I love my Leica M 9 , and I think I will get the M240 soon with the 50mm f2 APO, the new 50mm f2APO is a great lens , with exquisite modern barrel design.
Hasselblad 60 sensor is same size as Phase ones biggest sensor.. You clearly know nothing about medium format cameras.. as for Lloyd's test.. it was not the 135mm but the 100mm macro and it was a very simple test at a close distance.. lets try the test under various condition's and distances..and try autofocusing your Zeiss or flash syncing at 1/1000th sec or even compare the huge viewfinder of the S against the Nikon's..
Color from the leica S is also very very good..
Zerg2905: It's like buying (and driving it yourself) the Mercedes S (or even a bigger "chariot"): an out of this world car, but not for me. I like kevlar, ceramics and "4 motion" V12 or W16... Cheers! :):):)
@3systermuser..."Leica S lenses are nothing special" really..have you used them..??I have. they are simply excellent..
cruz031: 45mm f/2.8 for more than 5000 pounds? Nice try Leica, but at Olympus, one can get 45mm f/1.8 lens for a lot less money! 350$ to be precise.... That's almost 20 times cheaper! I don't see why would anyone be interested in this (overpriced) 36mm f/2.2 (in the terms of DOF, not the Speed!) full frame equivalent lens......
Sam Carriere: Amazing what some people will pay for a logo.
Have you used an S?? I doubt you have,it a fantastic piece of equipment and half the price of a phase IQ180
attomole: Wonder how it compares to SIgma 1.4 DG on a D800, anyone done the math! ;-)
I own both.. Leica S is better..
Mr Fartleberry: Homage to Noct? What marketing pig hooey. Maybe if it was 1.2 or 1.0. It's a 1.4 lense, nothing to see here.
But they sure are hooked on grabbing two thousand dollars for mid-range primes now. The Vampire is back as Hogan would say.
"But they sure are hooked on grabbing two thousand dollars for mid-range primes now." Its better than paying 4000 for the Zeiss,is 600grams lighter and has autofocus
This is interesting,a lot cheaper than the Otus and decent MTF,I like the 9 bladed aperture and it has a low weight compared to the Otus (385grams vs 1000grams)
PenGun: Has to be the same sensor, well updated perhaps, as the one on the D800. So weather sealed, medium format really, wonderful dynamic range and a grand cheaper. Poor Nikon what a brutal hit.
Nikon offers a complete system and huge array of glass.. this camera hasn't got much in terms of a system
Henry M. Hertz: im impressed.. some noobs here can judge the DR capabilities of a camera just by looking at images.no need for scientific test .... they can say "that´s 12 stops of DR and that´s 14 stops of DR" just by looking at JPG´s... wow.
yet... when we compared images from a D800 and 60D in our photo club NOBODY could tell one from the other.
we resized them and our members should tell which have an higher DR and are taken with the D800 and which have a lower DR and taken with the 60D.
try it yourself..... resize ISO 100-200 images to the same pixel dimensions and let "experts" ..cough.... look at them without knowing which camera made them. you will end up with a statistical 50:50 result. same as if you where just randomly guessing.
nobody in our photo club had more then 55% correct.sadly for the nikon fanboys.... :)
and that´s on the MONITOR..... now PRINTS will make the discussion absolutely useless..... but keep on talking about DR you noobs.
I agree it can be hard to tell the difference in a clean print but it's easy to differentiate in a raw converter where you can easily see the d800's ability to recover shadows and highlights..I like canon cameras but the nikon sensors are better.. hopefully canon will bounce back next year with a true successor to the 1DSmk3 and a 5Dmk4
Mike99999: With the FF NEX around the corner, even if the D600 drops to $1000 I would not touch it.
Buying a FF Nikon or Canon is like buying a giant CRT screen. It's ancient technology. The D600 and 6D are a desperate last fart from Canon and Nikon to push their remaining stock as the world switches to mirrorless.
Good luck with shooting sports with a super tele and your NEX
Henry M. Hertz: don´t know you but i rather buy this..
@ HowaboutRAW.. I have a lot of experience with HC glass.. the HCD28,the HC120 mk2,the 35-90mm and hc210 and hc300 are nothing short of excellent (I'm still waiting to try the HC150N),I know people that have purchased the new 50mm mk11 and its a very high performer.. there are tests that compare the HC glass to the old gassy/Zeiss glass and the HC is better in tests..