GabrielZ: This is what I was expecting unfortunately...that the Nikon and its Sony sensor would outperform the Leica by what seems to be a considerable margin. How much longer can Leica get a way with this premium price/inferior performance thing? Even the new lenses are oversized and underperforming. Makes me start to doubt the image quality of their esoteric M and S series lenses too, are they really as good as everybody seems to think they are?
Have no doubt,the S system is really good!
Jim Salvas: I expected it was not worth the money, but I didn't expect it could be outshot by cameras at a tiny fraction of the cost. That studio comparison test is devastating. It is outshot by almost every current full frame camera. The Sony A7R II destroys it.
And, for this, you have to give up not only the money but put up with a huge, heavy camera.
Same weight as a D810 and physically smaller,so not exactly huge.
Canon should have bought this ,they need the tech!!
Luke Kaven: Since the same questions have come up several times:
Sigma's design strategy with its ART primes is to use a greatly outsized image circle. You can retrofit a tilt-shift adapter through Hartblei, and get easily 12mm of shift and sometimes more. The result is superior edge-corner performance, and improved performance wide open.
In trade, the lens is likely to be larger and heavier than other standard primes. Several lenses have been employing this strategy -- the Nikon 14-24, the Zeiss Otus lenses, the Canon 11-24. They are all big and heavy, but they perform beautifully.
Basically using medium format glass on 35mm,its like using FF glass on APS-C,you get the best edge performance!!I like the Otus range but they're huge,anyway kudos to Sigma for turning things around in such spectacular fashion!
Scorpius1: It will sell,it uses M,S & R lenses and costs about as much as D4 or 1DX.
Yes,its a different market as there are no super tele's from Leica but people who have a lot of Leica glass will love this,I have S glass and wouldn't mind this as a second body,it will be a toss up between this of the D5 when its released.
It will sell,it uses M,S & R lenses and costs about as much as D4 or 1DX.
I think its beautiful,great vision.
Boissez: The amount of bickering about the iPhones and their specs borders on the fanatic.
Apples rarely flaunts their specs around, and by the end of the day that's hardly what matters in a smartphone anyway. You can't spec your way to a good user experience.
And people also seem to forget that the supposedly lowly specced iPhone 6 actually outperformed any of the other flagships from 2014: http://www.dxomark.com/Mobiles
its all about the OS for most people,iOS users are used to iPhones and like to use them.. vice versa for Droids!!
cmvsm: Sony and Panasonic seems to be the only ones innovating these days. My next purchase will most likely be with them. Maybe Nikon will have another boring release of the D3400 or D7300 where the highlight is a slight movement of the controls. Canon and Nikon are becoming the Blackberry of the camera world.
But Canon & Nikon do have excellent Glass to offer.
Nice camera but sony really need to sort out the RAW file,the user should be able to make his own choice!!
Thorgrem: Isn't 2100 euro a little bit to much if you can get a excellent Sigma for 750 euro? Yes, sure this lens will also be excellent but is the difference worth 1350 euro?
Street price will be much lower after a few months!
Prognathous: Nice money-is-no-object camera. Less appealing if money is of *any* importance (compared to a camera like the Pentax 645z for example, which for all intent is just as capable).
@Prognathous "Most of the Pentax lenses were disappointing, not even in the same league as Leica S glass, and lacking the sparkle I enjoy from my Zeiss glass."
@Prognathous ,Both Ming Thein and Lloyd Chambers have siad the S glass is superior,the S also has leaf shutters and the Z has none that I know off,I also know someone that owns a Pentax Z and he agrees the S glass is better,Lloyd has demonstrated that teh D810 with Otus glass can outresolve the 645Z with its pentax glass.
I do think the 645Z is a very good camera but if you are interested in using the sharpest glass then the S is the best system,I have all the lenses ,i built the collection up over the last few years,my shooting buddy uses a Phase one IQ280 and he is still impressed with leicas S glass and its look and color!!
BTW ,I also have a D810 and used a Hasselblad H4D 50 for 3yrs,the Blad was nice but I had to make a choice and I prefered S glass rendering!
Leica S glass is in a different class to Pentax glass!!
topstuff: If Sigma bring out a 24-70 2.8 ART lens with VR soon they will sweep up, if they price it aggressively and the quality is there. This Nikon looks great but super expensive. Maybe it will be discounted. But there is an opportunity for Sigma I would think..
You can pick up a Canon 24-70 mk2 for 60% of RRP in the UK,I think the Nikon will end up the same in a few months..
At this price I would prefer Billingham.
I've been using this since V4 and its really matured over time,Its worth a trial to se how it works with your choice of camera,I find the color and contrast to be very good and its a great tethering app!
TheCohbrah: I find this program to be rather confusing. Having to select so many menus as compared to lightroom just to do one task. Anyone come across this problem?
There are keyboard shortcuts which will move you through the menus very fast.. Alt⌥ + Cmd⌘ + 1,2,3… / Ctrl + 1,2,3…
Shunda77: Lol, my D5100 crop sensor has more DR than this new Canon.
But it doesn't have 50mp... just sayin ;-)
edrill4000: Just cancelled my Canon 5DSR order.
I'm not a fan of there Canon sensors but a good system is lens driven and Canon has a great lens selection!!