nicolaiecostel: Why buy the Otus ?
Futile comparison,the Otus is a tour de force in optical engineering,IQ is stunning!
Daft Punk: A reminder that Canon lenses are the reason to stick with Canon.
The Cameras ? So so. If it was not for the lenses why stick around?
The 1DX mk2 sensor might change that.. we'll know soon!!
Canon L mk2 is the best,Sigma is very close for less $$$.. If money didn't matter I would take the Canon L lens without hesitation.
I'm in for one of these with XQD cards,the D4s was great but this looks perfect for me,resolution is enough and I expect Sensor performance to be even better.
Frank_BR: When you purchased a MF camera in the era of film, your photos instantly gained 4x more resolution regarding the 135 format. And there were MF cameras, like the Yashica MAT, that cost less than a good 135 camera. Now, when you buy a digital MF camera, the resolution is equal to or slightly larger than that of a camera FF, but you paid 4 to 10 times more. The future of the MF is in danger, no doubt about it.
No real substitute for the bigger sensor,regardless of resolution,DOF is different and color tonality too,I would always prefer a MF camera over 35mm for IQ,throw leaf shutters into the equation and the MF is a completely different tool.
Wubslin: Typical of modern so-called 'culture' that the first instinct when presented with a new manufactured item is to tear it to pieces.
Sympomatic of the moral malaise which has overtaken our society I suppose.
LoL.. Surely this is a joke?
The best just got better.. installed it today on 10.10 and its very good!
GabrielZ: This is what I was expecting unfortunately...that the Nikon and its Sony sensor would outperform the Leica by what seems to be a considerable margin. How much longer can Leica get a way with this premium price/inferior performance thing? Even the new lenses are oversized and underperforming. Makes me start to doubt the image quality of their esoteric M and S series lenses too, are they really as good as everybody seems to think they are?
Have no doubt,the S system is really good!
Jim Salvas: I expected it was not worth the money, but I didn't expect it could be outshot by cameras at a tiny fraction of the cost. That studio comparison test is devastating. It is outshot by almost every current full frame camera. The Sony A7R II destroys it.
And, for this, you have to give up not only the money but put up with a huge, heavy camera.
Same weight as a D810 and physically smaller,so not exactly huge.
Canon should have bought this ,they need the tech!!
Luke Kaven: Since the same questions have come up several times:
Sigma's design strategy with its ART primes is to use a greatly outsized image circle. You can retrofit a tilt-shift adapter through Hartblei, and get easily 12mm of shift and sometimes more. The result is superior edge-corner performance, and improved performance wide open.
In trade, the lens is likely to be larger and heavier than other standard primes. Several lenses have been employing this strategy -- the Nikon 14-24, the Zeiss Otus lenses, the Canon 11-24. They are all big and heavy, but they perform beautifully.
Basically using medium format glass on 35mm,its like using FF glass on APS-C,you get the best edge performance!!I like the Otus range but they're huge,anyway kudos to Sigma for turning things around in such spectacular fashion!
Scorpius1: It will sell,it uses M,S & R lenses and costs about as much as D4 or 1DX.
Yes,its a different market as there are no super tele's from Leica but people who have a lot of Leica glass will love this,I have S glass and wouldn't mind this as a second body,it will be a toss up between this of the D5 when its released.
It will sell,it uses M,S & R lenses and costs about as much as D4 or 1DX.
I think its beautiful,great vision.
Boissez: The amount of bickering about the iPhones and their specs borders on the fanatic.
Apples rarely flaunts their specs around, and by the end of the day that's hardly what matters in a smartphone anyway. You can't spec your way to a good user experience.
And people also seem to forget that the supposedly lowly specced iPhone 6 actually outperformed any of the other flagships from 2014: http://www.dxomark.com/Mobiles
its all about the OS for most people,iOS users are used to iPhones and like to use them.. vice versa for Droids!!
cmvsm: Sony and Panasonic seems to be the only ones innovating these days. My next purchase will most likely be with them. Maybe Nikon will have another boring release of the D3400 or D7300 where the highlight is a slight movement of the controls. Canon and Nikon are becoming the Blackberry of the camera world.
But Canon & Nikon do have excellent Glass to offer.
Nice camera but sony really need to sort out the RAW file,the user should be able to make his own choice!!
Thorgrem: Isn't 2100 euro a little bit to much if you can get a excellent Sigma for 750 euro? Yes, sure this lens will also be excellent but is the difference worth 1350 euro?
Street price will be much lower after a few months!
Prognathous: Nice money-is-no-object camera. Less appealing if money is of *any* importance (compared to a camera like the Pentax 645z for example, which for all intent is just as capable).
@Prognathous "Most of the Pentax lenses were disappointing, not even in the same league as Leica S glass, and lacking the sparkle I enjoy from my Zeiss glass."
@Prognathous ,Both Ming Thein and Lloyd Chambers have siad the S glass is superior,the S also has leaf shutters and the Z has none that I know off,I also know someone that owns a Pentax Z and he agrees the S glass is better,Lloyd has demonstrated that teh D810 with Otus glass can outresolve the 645Z with its pentax glass.
I do think the 645Z is a very good camera but if you are interested in using the sharpest glass then the S is the best system,I have all the lenses ,i built the collection up over the last few years,my shooting buddy uses a Phase one IQ280 and he is still impressed with leicas S glass and its look and color!!
BTW ,I also have a D810 and used a Hasselblad H4D 50 for 3yrs,the Blad was nice but I had to make a choice and I prefered S glass rendering!