Miki Nemeth: When I saw that DPReview gave such a high score to a camera that I evaluated to be mediocre, I was surprised but I thought I am not an expert at all. Then I've just read Behiri's review www.cinema5d.com/panasonic-lx-100/ and I think I was a bit right. I think the LX100 cannot come even close to Sony's RX100R3.
Funny: "mediocre". Just go to one of the few still standing photo store with $1000 in hand and try to find a mediocre camera. You won't. It doesn't matter who made it. $1k will buy you an outstanding camera, regardless who made it.
Mike FL: If LX100 threatened RX100-3's sales# due to advantage of sensor size, SONY may release an APS-C sensor P&S with size no big than LX100.
BUT, I do not think Panasonic can sale more LX100 than RX100-3 even RX100-3 is aged as LX100's design is much older; 10 years old exactly even 10 years older LC1 has a 2-position Flash built in.
Leica's lens is a selling point, but Panasonic's engineers are getting too lazy.
The sony and panasonic are quite different. Sony tries to be an entertainment company, Panasonic is still more an electronics company. The fall of shony stock reflects that overreach, sony is losing a lot of money now due to Samsung eating from heir TV, computer, photo and smartphone share.I don't think Sony has any beef with panasonic...
I can bet that this technology would be available only to the people who will surrender their pictures to google. Because that's the main goal, isn't it? What can be better than to have access to everyone properly tagged photos and also get help from millions of people to correct the pictures with real information, like the friendly facebook - "identify your friends on this image"
vladimir vanek: Someone should stop google from their spy activities. It's/will be really dangerous that a private company has so much data in possession... And excavates more everaday from your emails, searches, tracking, calling etc.
Your and mine private data, our habits, likes and desires are the google main commodity. Without collecting the data google would be just a search engine, not a giant corporation. Asking google to stop the data collection and processing is like asking their investors to throw money out of window. It is not going to happen, it is the main business.
Looking forward the december firmware.
I just can't imagine a hasllblad executive looking at the design options and then pointing at what we see here and saying: "I want that!". It just doesn't compute.
Rooru S: Those rebadges were a bad idea from the very beggining. Actually, every single rebadged camera is a bad idea... but works sometimes. Look at Leica, they're doing fine with their Panasonic cameras.
Also Leica kind of pretend to put their own "secret processing" into panasonic to justify the price hike which is more or less playing with curves, but at least they try.
MikeFairbanks: What's the deal with "backs" anyway? can't someone just make a medium format digital camera without having the back latch on or off? Or am I getting it wrong?
Because Pentax 645D was actually designed by photography industry professionals.
Alex Permit: Why even bother opening a design facility in Italy if you end up with such monstrosities? It's an insult to the fine tradition of Italian design.
Pinin Farina must be turning in his grave.
The sad thing is that if they just keep the sony style and changed the logo, in the Leica/Panasonic way, they still may have some future. But they wanted to make statement....and here we go.
Gesture: I have more respect for the company that licensed the Kodak name and is sourcing really good, affordable models of contemporary formats like the power zoom or micro four-thirds cameras. Check out the Kodak Forum for examples of Kodak devotees using the new licensed name models.
JK Imaging is the very same General Imaging company that produced GE branded cameras. General Imaging is a board of directors spin of Olympus Imaging during the 2006 scandals.
Kodak and GE cameras are made by Asia Optical, who also make cameras for Fuji among others.
It is a small world in imaging. You can never get too far from the main OEMs.
I've had seen some of their hasellblad branded monstrosities first hand and it totally gave a vibe of "made for sale at retirement homes". Always looking like they took half of a sci-fi prop and half of some old camera and hammered it together.
Which is funny, if they would actually take the original hasselblad 500 c/m design, they can probably pull a Fuji X100.
Gesture: At least, when Leica rebadges a Panasonic model, it does so tastefully and adds value with its warranty service. I still wish Leica would say "co-developed with Panasonic," instead of pretending these are Leica cameras, as I have seen on videos with Leica marketing people.
Funny how brand marketing still works like a charm!
tecnoworld: This morning I had a brief shooting session with the canon 6d of a friend, coupled with a sigma 70-200 f2.8 lens. He paid 2.000€ for the combo.
I think that for someone not needing 15fps or 4k video, that combo is much, much better than nx1+50-150, costs 1000€ less and delivers better iq.
Canon 6D is 2013 camera, NX1 is 2015 camera, it is only logical to assume the 2015 camera would outperform the older models.
Kudos to samsung that they still interfere in a dying market of heavy DSLR, that only proves they are serious about imaging.
LaFonte: The field sequential display in EVF is true for every EVF. Otherwise if they would use RGB mask like normal LCD display, we would actually see that in the tiny EVF as RGB colored pixels.So practically every EVF display is always monochromatic with three coloured LEDs behind it, that blink in sequential order - very fast. Some use higher refresh ratio than others, but you can probably see it even in best EVF if you know where to look.You can eliminate the blinking if you allow to switch the EVF into pure monochromatic mode which is very easy to do for the manufacturers, but only very few companies thought of this (like canon in their DV cameras). This feature was loved by the people who had to look through VF for long period of time, having EVF switch in monochromatic was a true eye saver.
I am not sure of Many, but point well taken, the newer cameras indeed go toward hi-res OLED
intruder61: Some fool asked me what Raw program i used after i made a comment on the price of this unit, well after a very good perusal of images produced and shown here i find them average and once again, for $899 its a NO.Its a no for jpegs, its a no for raw.Its just another ok camera, nothing ground breaking like the X100 was......and if you want to feel better, buy the leica version, whatever they call it.
It is above $1000 in canada. I think they tried to put the bar too high, even sony stayed below $1000 with the rx100 M3
camfan1: @Marko Lauritis.Don't think for 1 minute Panasonic wants to protect anything in-house.Competition is much to fierce to do such a thing.Most probably this camera is indeed for enthousiasts but not (movie-)pro's.Costs have to be cut somewhere (otherwise most or all things you mention would be in there).Touch: not even Sony puts touch in higher end camera's, probably with reason.About keeping the camera for 10 years ? 2-3 years from now the sensor tech will be organic, foveon or other.That may prove far more important than any tilt, touch or faster lens.2-3 years from now any camera will be outdated, whatever it features now.
foevon didn't catch till now, it won't in the future.And I am not sure they are cost cutting, I think they are rather inflating the price.
Tan68: I suppose if it needs service, it will go back to Nikon ?Perhaps not. It has been dissembled and Nikon may wish nothing to do with the thing.
It has a 1 yr BRIXX warranty... So, they will work on the camera or they will send it to another repair facility ?
Whoever receives the camera for service, I wonder what the technician will think...
Imagine that being assigned to you for work and you don't know about the BRIXX edition.
People who buy those things will most likely never use it or use it once. Sad but true.
robbo d: Clearly targeted to the upcoming smartphone brigade as a series of cameras to run alongside the more traditional K50/5/3 etc ...... AS STATED by Pentax exec's.
Once again.... also targeting the Asian market, soccer Mum's and fashionista's.
Quite clearly not for the traditional forumite black with white lettering brigade...... but because it's a new product or a variation thereof, it gets an announcement all across the world. Kind of wasted on this forum really.
BUT DON'T stress you lot ....... you don't actually have to buy it ok...... under all those cutesy pie colours and flashing lights is a damn good stills camera once again put out by a company that knows their market and despite not coming out with FF (yet) or a new lens every month (because they already have more than Fuji or Samsung can poke a stick at) are making a profit doing what they know best. Move on folks, nothing more for you to see here.....
I yet to see any fashionista equipped with Pentax low end DSLR....
Well to be honest it doesn't cost much to make few new colors, so that can be marketed as an upgrade to a model that is not present in any of the stores where I live.
Actually it is a pretty smart idea, re-imagined way of taking panorama pics from air.