This is stupid sorry to say it as I see it, to make "social-oriented" camera. The best social-oriented camera is called smartphone and it is already in pocket of everybody who is into this self absorbing social thing.
No matter what you do, you can't make N2 work better "social-oriented" than run of the mill smartphone. I gave my wife this social oriented sony HX50 which can so easily connect to smartphone. Guess what she is still taking pics with her smartphone because it is simply more convenient and good enough for the FB crowd..
Mr Darma: I'm inclined to believe that this will go the way of the K-01 (which was a much better camera than it's fate). As a dedicated lifelong Pentax shooter with 5 bodies and 30 lenses, I gave up on APS-C and am back shooting film on my MZ-S, PZ1-p and ZX-5n.....patiently waiting for the much rumored and perhaps never to happen full frame K-1. I wish the effort by Ricoh/Pentax had been directed thus rather than on this blingy little thing.
In my neck of the woods pentax is not successful at all. No big box store like best buy carry any of the K or Q and the specialized photo stores have just extremely limited stock of the latest model if any (like a single K-3 in stock). And of course nobody carries ricoh at all here.
The only problem I have with pentax is their naming conventions. It is total mess with adding letters and numbers that are in descending order after the K. All the K-x, K-r, K-s.. get some system!
Hopefully it is build a bit better than other PLs. My PL-2 lost its shutter button after a week. Fortunately I did found it and then superglue it back, but seriously...
akra: Very puzzling decision to swap flash for EVF for pro-sumer camera. Just for reference, most pro-sumers work regular jobs when lighting conditions are best ... so a lot of pictures are taken during dinners (i.e. after dark), on the beach, when you really need the flash. Am I supposed to have the flash on me every time? One would think that those lucky of us who can afford running around and taking pics during working hours and do need EVF would also be able to afford a real pro camera. Seems that design misplaces the camera for the target audience. Wonder if Leica will do the same blunder with their version of the camera. Otherwise camera looks great.
Tiny add-on flash is usually a very cheap solution, while add-on EVF would cost hundreds of dollars. Modern cameras are amazing even in dark and give more natural look without the flatness and shadows of a tiny front mounted flash.I personally use build-in flash very, very little, not to mention that in many social situation extensive using of flash is not appreciated.
Wow, pretty nifty camera. It is interesting how everybody can now squeeze large sensor into a compact body...
Looking forward the new fw for x100s
LaFonte: Reading many of the comments I got finally completely confused. There are totally contradictory statements which shows that we (as a group) actually don't have any idea how sensor technology works. If this was a class it would be a big fail for the teacher.DPreview, maybe it would be a good idea for a future article by some expert with down to earth way of style to explain how imaging sensor works, how the electrons bounce and what not, how the ISO is calculated, what is the cause of ISO noise etc... Someone who is not a forum poster with expensive words please so we can actually understand.
Well duh, I assume everyone knows those basics. But how about to dig deep, how photon excites the well, how the well size affect effectivity, a crosstalk between pixels wen electrons jump and all that bananas.
How does it relate to the WB set in your camera? I assume if you going with a calibration you don't use AWB, right? or it will mess up the whole thing. So you set your WB to say daylight, shoot the target and then stick with the daylight WB no matter what? I really want to know.
Reading many of the comments I got finally completely confused. There are totally contradictory statements which shows that we (as a group) actually don't have any idea how sensor technology works. If this was a class it would be a big fail for the teacher.DPreview, maybe it would be a good idea for a future article by some expert with down to earth way of style to explain how imaging sensor works, how the electrons bounce and what not, how the ISO is calculated, what is the cause of ISO noise etc... Someone who is not a forum poster with expensive words please so we can actually understand.
nigelht: Physically masking a 36MP FF sensor to the same size as a m43 sensor results in an equivalent 9MP m43 sensor.
You won't see increased noise in this masked sensor which indicates that "total light" has little impact on noise or DR because it should be well understood that these characteristics are based on sensor/adc design and pixel size.
The "idea of equivalence" doesn't tell you anything about the noise potential low light performance of the sensor (relative to same generation sensors). The pixel size does. Larger pixels = less noise.
"Equivalent aperture" only addresses DOF equivalence.
"You won't see increased noise in this masked sensor...""Yes, you will."Such statement is exactly why this topic is such a mess. Me personally I have absolutely no idea why masking part of the sensors wells would then magically increase noise in all the unmasked wells. Absolutely no idea. Somebody is just pulling my teeth here with all the contradictions.There is for sure a definitive answer to all these statements, unless we of course start talking about light as a wave and then we will never finish.So where is the definitive expert capacity on this topic to put all this mess into order.
Those are really something!
I thing the guy behind it must be a marketing genius to get so much venture capital behind him. Some nifty way of persuasion. Seems they got even more capital that Sigma could scram for foevon. In our local store they have one open box lytro camera for more than a year... nobody really wants it, yet the money keep raining in! He is a genius for sure.
"Thanks to the FZ1000's silent mode, this Seattle PD officer had no idea that I was taking his photo."Now he has. Wait for the call...
OliverNZ: Hi all,
Well, had a play with one yesterday. Nice bright sharp view finder and the 400mm eq lens is pretty good. But, not nearly as tactile for manual shooting as the RX10. It was no where near as easy to use as appeture was hard to find. The build quality is not as good as the RX10. The Panasonic is lighter tho not by much.
To me, the RX10 feels like a better quality machine. This follows with my many years of dealing with Sony product in my jobs in TV dealing with their professional equipment and my personal equipment. Sony stuff usually costs a little more but it is usually just that bit better.
Since their customer service both stinks, it comes down to what is good and works right now. Yeah sony always butters our noses with premium materials.
As expected the real life images are pretty good. I think we are in the area when there isn't a single "bad" camera any more. Whatever you get takes great images. Oh I miss the times when you could clearly choose winners.
munro harrap: I think it is better to await a full review with timings battery life and actual files you can download (from Sigma?) before lending them a thousand dollars!!!They can make an absolute fortune this way investing your loan to them- and it costs them not a penny.
I had a DP2M. Great lens, very nice, but an hours battery life is a joke. Yes with its tiny shutter lag and fast AF it should have taken on and beaten the Nex7.
Here again you are forced to buy three cameras rather than one camera and three lenses, AND you have to buy three separate viewfinders as well, because if the hi-resw screen is as wobbly as the DP1,2, and 3s were, it is useless except for tripod mounted stills.
You can buy a NEX and those same lenses for it and no more worries!!! And no more loans to Sigma. The lenses are just fine on a NEX, bar the 19mm (DP1) which is only OKish stopped well down.No better than the Nex kit lens... check DXO if disbelieving...
Man you must be hiding under the rock when you think you can make absolute fortune on a short term loans these days! Hahaha...The fact is that many camera stores do not even offer sigma because they fear of high percentage of returns on low selling item.This loan is to simply go around the dealers blockage with easy return policy and I guess it will cost sigma a lot of money in logistics - hence I don't think this deal will last too long. Soon you will hear, sorry we no longer accept the loan.
andrzej bialuski: Has anyone here ordered this Test Camera?
I did 2 days ago and got an order confirmation from Sigma, but no shipping date. nor a way to check status of my order.Is your experience similar to mine?Did Sigma sent you a link to check your order online?
My bet would be that there were thousands like you and the logistic went poof. Many times companies that do not sell directly don't prepare for the real world of shipping and returning.
The ISO 100 is a total blast, but it goes downhill so fast after that! As an amateur I can't stay with ISO 100 for my normal shooting and the higher ISO noise defeats the purpose of a special sensor.
plasnu: Finally, the mirrorless cameras have become popular in US and Euro. According to CIPA, between Jan-May 2014
The shipment of Mirrorless +38%The shipment of DSLR -13%The shipment of Compact -40%
The cellphone workflow far outshines the small compact cameras. Take picture, quick adjustment, send it to your mom. Soon or later bigger cameras will have to compete with that workflow, the current wifi features are abysmal at best.