lacro: All links seem broken as of today.
Thank you very much, Max.
It would be great if somebody could do the same with the new X20.
All links seem broken as of today.
lacro: Too little, too late!
After the great expectations for a broader lens from "rumors" stating a 24~120 zoom lens (with the same light), as requested in my previous comments here in this forum, I'm terrible disappointed with the same lens, considering the already old launch of the Sony RX100...
Even then, same sensor size? Seriously? I've been avoiding a whole lot of compact cameras for the last couple of years, in order to get my dreamed X10 improved according to the current standards.
I really don't know what to do now.
I waited almost 2 years for FUJI to get the X10 right (because I love the concept), but after that time I'd also expect some improvements, if you woudn't mind.
You should. No, Reg. I've expressed myself in the wrong way.
The point is the standards moved on. The X10 set a new level when it was launched, back then. After the white orbs' disappointment and the way it was managed, I've expected much better specs in the lens and sensor areas, considering the current standards in the compact segment, set by the Sony RX100.
Too little, too late!
I'm still waiting for that dream digicam, everybody is trying to define here. It must be out of its league, as the RX1, RX100 and X10 were, BUT better. Meaning almost the size of the RX100, BUT with a better overall concept from the X10, the X20? 1. Best IQ possible, WITH 2. A general overall smaller size.3. A 24-120 mm, f 1.8 ~ 2.4 fixed zoom lens,4. An even bigger sensor (like RX100),5. A full information electronic? viewfinder, 6. A wider shutter speed range (both ways), 7. A better resolution LCD,8. Better overall control with better use of knobs (why not?), 9. A more usable interface menu like XPro1, etc. 10. Include a std UV filter and regular carrying case (avoid the mandatory optionals),
My two cents, cheers.
Michael Doleman: Limitations of technology and physics dictate that compromise is necessary; anyone's "perfect" camera will be a reflection of what factors are most important to them. For me, portability and convenience are key, but I also want full manual control, reasonable photographic versatility, and excellent IQ. My Sony RX100 is very nearly perfect, for me, as it is. If I were able to do so, however, without compromising much on size, I'd add the following: full weather sealing, a usable VF (wouldn't have to be great--just usable), a couple more externally-accessible manual controls, slightly faster lens, and perhaps an even larger sensor. Price it at <$1,000 and I'll buy it immediately.
Match its benefits with the X10 concept, and you'll get a winner.
infocus: Before telling you my "must haves" let me preface this by saying I am a photographer, art photographer and taught college-level photography for 23 years. Also, as I've aged, my back is simply not what it used to be. My last film camera was a Pentax 6x7, the grand daddy of SLRs and heavy as they come. I started to not enjoy taking photographs and that was a critical line I crossed. I didn't like that feeling. Okay, with that in mind, here are my "requirements" for my perfect camera:
1. Lightweight (must fit in my backpack but not take up my entire backpack). I want a camera that is as unobtrusive as possible. 2. Huge sensor for the best quality images I can get. I like to print BIG.3. Low noise at high ISOs.4. Widest aperture I can get for low light situations. f1.4 anyone? LOL5. Quick AF and quick burst. 6. Usable viewfinder for brightly lighted situations7. Adjustable electronic screen8. Easy to access controls
Umm, did I forget anything? LOL
I'm not laughing. I agree.
PocketTool: My ideal camera shoots film, thank you very much.
Why is it that avergae film IQ still is better than average digital? Seriously!
Tom Hoots: I have my dream camera: The Sony RX100. I've been carrying a camera in my pocket since Canon's S100 -- the original one from back in 2000. And all I've really wanted was a pocket camera with a larger sensor that would produce significantly better image quality than the usual pocket cameras, which the RX100 delivers.
More recently, over the past few years, I've become a fan of Sony's fast shooting capabilities, and all of the features it has developed around that speed, employing multiple image processing. So, including those features in a pocket camera with a larger sensor, Sony has absolutely met my needs.
If I could only also get the results and experience from the X10!
It seems to me many concurr with the idea that an affordable (of around US$ 650) current dream is a state of the art compact in the line of the RX-1 and the RX100 (Specs, Size and Weight) meet the Fujifilm X10 Overall Design and Function Concept, IQ included and solid quality (avoiding the orbs issues), the X20 perhaps?
photoholiko: a Sony RX-1 with interchaneable lenses.
A RX-1 with a 24-120 (f Max 2) fixed zoom lens.
SheikYerbouti: The camera should be high quality, comparatively small, weather-sealed, robust, durable, ergonomic and with good classic looks. It's sensor should be the best APS-C sensor that's currently available, which is Fuji's 16MP X-Trans CMOS sensor ... which means, the camera should be a Fuji. It should have a fixed 24mm-120mm zoom lens with a constant maximum aperture of f/2.0, good macro capabilities and smoothly operating mechanical zoom and aperture rings. There should be some sort of snap-on lens available that shifts the zoom range to 240mm or 300mm (at the expense of one or two stops). All important controls should be accessible through dedicated buttons or dials. If such a camera should pass the usual reviews without major hick-ups I'd be happy pay 1200$-1800$ for it (including the snap-on) ...
The same at around US$ 650.-
When is Fuji going to release the new X11 ? replacement followup?
royshoonit: I'm not looking for excuses, i'm looking for a normal camera, you know what it means.I quote "Noisy and soft photos have noticeable detail loss, even at base ISO of 125, Not great for night shots, below average battery life, low light focusing not great" Etc.It's Devolution Of cameras, Even worse, it is insult to as customers.Worst of all, all models for Everyday photographers dropped in quality:Nikon Coolpix P300 is devolution to Coolpix P310.Nikon Coolpix S6200 is devolution to Coolpix S6300.Nikon Coolpix S9100 is devolution to Coolpix S9300. Etc.So why buy from a company,that Knowingly Manufactures lower levels Of products???(English is not my native language, i hope you understand me).
The idea behiind the price evolution over time might be a good one for a comparison chart section altogether along with others, provided values adjustments are considered.
Marty4650: I give Fuji a lot of credit for this solution.
They created a really fine camera that had a flaw. They tried a firmware fix, and it failed. Now they will swap the sensor out for an improved version that doesn't have this flaw.
This was probably the most expensive fix, and they are now probably losing money on every X10 previously sold that must now be modified. But by doing so, they gain credibility with their customers.
They did the right thing, and their customers will appreciate it.
like e.g.1. An even more flexible zoom lens (broader, reasonably/ economically fast and fixed), eg 24-120 mm, f 1.8 ~ 2.4,2. An even bigger (feasible) sensor,3. A full information and good quality EVF viewfinder, combined with an OVF TTL (through-the-lens) with 100% coverage... eg. like X Pro1,4. A wider shutter speed range (60s ~ 1/4000 ?),5. A better resolution LED (3" @ 960k ?),6. Include a std UV filter and regular carrying case (avoid the mandatory optionals),7. A more usable menu with the capacitive touch screen (like X Pro 1), and8. A general overall smaller size or as it is, and9. Similarly priced.
I agree with Marty4650, though I understand all the criticisms. But, after all, doesn't everyone agree that we were expecting this product fixed? Imagine the disappointment if it wasn't. As many prospective buyers, I've been following this affair closely for a long time and it seems now, that we could soon get it almost perfect. Let alone, better than the rest. There might be good optins out there, but none came so close to what we want than this product. Make no more mistakes, Fuji. This was the right step. I will now buy one, as soon as it come clear the full DPReview (which is my pathfinder), and how to get the new fixed camera. Besides that, I'm already expecting the following model, considering some X-Pro 1 Specs or even my already wish list published.
ismailfaruqi: Please also compare the DR or noise f the new sensor vs old one. Im afraid this reduces orbs in expense of something.
This is also my fear, and it's strange few mentioned it.
Kudos for Fujifilm. Just In Time, as announced. Nevertheless, I'm eager to see what other differences might exist, on the full thorough DPReview.
And as I live abroad, I would like to know when and which serious stores in New York and Miami, might have the new X10 models with the sensor already replaced.
I've been waiting it for a long time now. I can't afford to get it first, and replace it afterwards. Can't make a second trip soon.