Staxxx: gotta ask......would you upgrade your EM-5 for this?
i would. focus peaking for me is the best thing. i plan to buy voigtländer lenses and peaking would be awesome to use it with.
plus, i owned a nikon 1 v1 and was very happy with C-AF. just shot the buffer full with RAW images and the camera did refocus on its own. very reliable.
some minor things:and the new viewfinder.and the grip (if you like that)and the mode lockand the button config options and layout and numberand the sturdier built (dials on E-M5 seemed fragile)and the new truepic VII engine
biggest downside: it just looks... not appealing compared to E-M5. what beauty that is...
Hugo808: As someone who is looking for a new small walkabout camera, I have to wonder what the advantage of this would be over the Canon 100D?
With that I get a proper viewfinder, a bigger sensor and the lenses are cheaper. There must be something that drags people to m4/3's but I can't fathom it.
LOLi love it when people state the smaller sensor size.
i think, ther are many DSLR user gravitated to FF because APS-C, MFT or other systems have something which is called "crop factor", while full frame systems do not. so -> "full frames are better than anything, because they don't crop!"
ZhanMInG12: I'm not an M43 shooter (Fuji, then Canon and Leica) and has never owned an Olympus camera before, but I'm excited about the EM1. I had a chance to shoot an EM5 last month and was amazed by AF performance and general control fluidity. It's as fast as my 7d - and thus probably faster than almost all APS-C DSLRs. I can shoot basketball games and extreme sports events with an EM5 and not feel hampered by the camera.
These cameras may have smaller sensors, but they are very well built, nicely thought-out and capable bodies for a range of work. That's why M43 is going to stay around, at least until Sony and Fuji gets their lens lineups sorted out.
that's true. the x system is very tempting too.plus there are very nice zeiss lenses *sigh*
tecnoworld: Still no samsung nx300 in the image quality db. It's been out for almost 6 months now. And this om-d, with smaller sensor, is immediately in the database. Puah.
the reason is simple: the EM1 was long anticipated and will ship in the next days. so DPR made the shots of the new testing scenery. big deal, NX300 will follow eventually soon
Pixnat2: Nice picture gallery, I like the diversity, thanks Richard!Portraits with the 45 f/1.8 are phenomenal, this lens rocks : very sharp and nice OOF rendering. But the best : the EM-1 gets rid of residual CA usually seen with this lens The new 12-40 f/2.8 seems very sharp too! Promising.
The 45 f/1.8 got a 23 DxOMark score, which is impressive.well, not as good as Nikkor 85mm f/1.4G or a Zeiss 85 f/1.4 but thats another league...
Axel Vercauteren: I mainly shoot JPEG so the lens corrections including CA are a very welcome surprise. The 'LOW' ISO is also very useful. Can't wait to see more!
with this camera i am temped to shoot in jpeg too. very well
Walsh_uk: Wish it had a fuji sensor then it would be perfect..
the fuji look good because their noise reduction, right? you can't switch it off!
fotoRich: "Continuous and tracking AF has been a stumbling block for mirrorless cameras, so far...": false: Nikon was first to introduce exceptional continuous and tracking AF using a combination of on chip phase and contrast detection in their mirrorless N1 system. This is not the first and no doubt will not be the last time a DPR article has talked about mirrorless systems as if the N1 system didn't exist!
and how well it served me *sigh*
TorsteinH: High ISO looks pretty good compared to my E-M5! Impressive!
no, it is not the exact same sensor.
the EM1 has a (new) sony sensor (the EM5 was not from sony, was it?) with phase contrast capabilities.so, it is kind of a new-generation sensor.that's the reason why there is less noise. really good for my impression!
Zvonimir Tosic: In the last year, three absolutely fantastic and innovative cameras from Olympus, one fantastic from Panasonic, plenty of great new lenses. All going up in quality and performance -- The whole m4/3 in high wave riding.And from DSLR makers? Innovation in deep slumber: Nikon and Canon repackage, dumb and scale down, Pentax busy with repainting of the same old cameras, Sony even mocks the DSLR shape by squeezing in it an ultracheap mirrorless camera.Who would have guessed ...
DSLRs are still sold like warm bread because many people THINK these and these cameras alone will give them good images.mirrorless cameras are eyeballed as toys by many users. mostly males, by the way.i encoutered many guys, who think FF are "just the right cameras" and mirrorless are "mäusekino" (toys)
Marvol: I feel sorry for some die hard DSLR users.
They troll the Sony NEX forums moaning that the lenses are so big, so why do people bother using NEX instead of DSLRs? So NEX users explain that the overall size is still smaller and especially the bodies are way lighter.
Then the DSLR users come to the MFT forums to troll that the bodies are so big, so why do people bother using MFT? So MFT users have to explain that the overall size is still smaller and especially the lenses are way lighter.
Then said DSLR users move on to complain about crappy EVFs compared to the amazing OVF from entry level Canikons... and the combined NEX and MFT user base just *facepalms*.
One day they will enter the 21st century. One day.
why are people posting here, that obviously dislike this kind of cameras?
>the m43 system is not as big as the canikon system. period.
you are right...i just need a good camera and this one fits my needs very nicely. so i like the E-M1. period.
Interestingness: Jumped right to page 9 and checked out image quality. Did you all see the 3200 ISO JPEG's? That would make me stop shooting RAW - WOW!
Now change it to RAW and look around - this holds it own against everything except the Canon 5D3 all the way up from there (why no ISO 6400?).
Either this or the GX7 is going to be my next camera. Availability and street price will be the deciding factors. The Olympus has the edge in IQ and in body IS - the GX7 the viewfinder. Decisions, decisions...
dosn't bother me. i would use 1.8 or smaller and settle for ISO 1600. which looks amazing when i look at the dp pictures...
Red5TX: Body + lens = $2,399. I'm happy that Olympus has released this ultra-serious, great looking camera, but that's some tall cotton.
lets wait some more days. it might drop eventually
SergeyMS: This camera can have reason only in case of use new sensor. Old one is not good enough.
old one was good enough. for me. new one: even better. you like?
Andy Crowe: There's something slightly strange going on with the studio comparison, it seems to be sharper at ISO800 and higher than at lower ISOs.
there are buttons like AF-L, right? ;)
mpgxsvcd: The one thing that is being overlooked here is that Olympus has just added 42 lenses to the m4/3s catalog with a single press release. Those lenses include at least 5 fast zoom lenses and some of the best primes ever made.
Not only has Olympus passed Canon in sensor sensitivity but now they have similar dual AF and they also have pretty competitive lens lineup with Canon's entire line of lenses.
This new camera is aimed squarely at stealing the Pro photographers away from Canon. With the tremendous size and weight advantages of m4/3s lenses they might actually do just that.
yes, of course he did.
your friends should switch to Medium format. all of them! i don't care! they are making a living? and need to "separate" from people like us, who now are able to afford full frame cameras too?
i am using the m4/3 system FOR FUN, not to make money with it. to remember decisive moments or just try to frame a nice visual impression.
> nikon and canon making a profit olympus cameras not. > no matter how much you like to talk about it.... it´s a factdidn't know that. and i don't care either
Henry M. Hertz: FF get´s cheaper and cheaper... m43 more and more expensive... mhm.. yes makes sense. ;)
because kit m4/3 cameras are (here in germany) available for 250 euros and reach up to current top models (E-M5, GX7, E-M1), it is a huge system...
justmeMN: Hmmm. AF speed not as good as a DSLR. Sensor not as good as a DSLR. Priced higher than many DSLRs...
numbers mean nothing if you don't carry your camera with you. i know a guy who has shooted thousands of photos with his FF Canon 6D of his baby in the first months - INSIDE.so thousands of photos which are not very different! WTF he almost never took the camera with him when his family went outside for a walk, because of size/handling/worth. THAT is - well... i would recommend a EM1 ;)
ozturert: For 1500$ you could get D600 or 6D when there is sales. "Small-light body and lenses" do not count always. 1400$ is way too much. Heck, you have D7100 for 1150$!And I have an EM-5 as my 4th m4/3 body :)
well, that is the problem.
some people here who already have invested thousands of dollars into ther Canikontax - or whatever - systems are not too happy about seeing awesome new bodies with awesome features rise. because others could prosper with new technology.i think, most of these posts here are driven by grudge.
atamola: The fuzzy boundaries between mirrorless and SLR cameras are a good thing for all of us –irrespective of whether you are a professional or keen amateur.Until recently, if you wanted D3X image quality you had to pay almost $6000. Today, you can have that for a fraction of the price and weight.Until recently, the only one offering a relatively “compact” full frame camera was Leica and you had to pay around $7000 for it. Today you have the Sony-Zeiss combo in the RX1 for 40% of that price.OMD, PEN, GX, X-… series did not exist.Pick whatever suits you and carry on –let others pick whatever they want.
true. plus some forum heads are tolls who just get high on specs and "pro" stuff. you know, those people who would pay double for exclusive apple crap... (no offense)