KakoW: In need of a new camera, I went to the store today to try it out.
I was blown away : it offers full manual control in a small package and a very impressive IS. With the 17 f1.8 it handles well.
My GF didn't like it. The grip is short and shallow. She voted for the X-T1. She felt the E-M10 requires an aperture ring, since your left hand rests under the lens.
Try it before you buy it, is what I'm trying to say.
what's wrong with his old one?
kadardr: Why do I like the Nikon 1 system? It has a unique mix of characteristics.1. Unobtrusive design, pretends to be a small P&S. No attention drawer.2. Totally noiseless operation with the electronic shutter. Stealth shooting, great candids.3. Blazing fast AF, which is also very accurate, if you choose the right method depending on the situation. (actually the small sensor does not require the accuracy of an FX system) 4.Bewilderingly fast burst mode.5. Great lenses. My favorites are the 18.5mm, 30-110mm and the 6.7- 13mm.6. Great video. I use it for GIF making only.7. Great raw quality. Great colors, sharpness and all. Very intuitive UI (even the V1).
Nikon 1s are the all time companion camera to me. I will get the V3 for sure.
i'm with you. silent operation is what mirrorless should really be for me. so i will stick to my unobtrusive and fast V1. i was tempted with the V3, but for that price: combined with 6.7-13 and 32mm lenses, i would still pay 1900 euro...
so i will keep my V1 with 10mm and 18.5mm in my backpack for light stuff and get a GH4, which is more expensive of course, but does handle the stuff i do much better and works silent too. Plus m43 for me feels a little bit like open source. no more nikon 1 stuff for me, sorry...
CameraLabTester: I like Nikon cameras and their innovative gear.
I like the Nikon brand.
But there is something REALLY WRONG with this camera system.
Nikon is not listening.
It is trying to feed "good enough" fodder to the innocent masses with mumbo jumbo technical word spins to regurgitate redundant features.
The whole system is an ergonomic design nightmare.
no, nikon does not listen because it is their policy. really, i work with nikon microscopes and even their technicians are amazed of nikons i-don't-take-input-from-you strategy, and that goes from top to bottom...
flatrion: Where is the 'T' comes from ? It does not resemble Contax T, it is not made of titanium.
i like raw images, i really do. sometimes, they can allow for jaw-dropping adjustments.but most often they don't.i get it, you are professional, but you won't see a paradigm-shift increase in quality with DNGs from any camera.
fdfgdfgdgf: Flat IQ and colorsNikon D3300/5300 outperform it by a leap.
They need to move to APSC, then it will challenge DSLR's
so i assume you have a nikon DSLR and feel threatened?
Sad Joe: PLUS: Nice new cheaper OM model. CONS: Perhaps they should speak with their pals at Panasonic about video before bringing out anymore...
right. your opinion. everyone's got one...
i disagree. the E-M10 does not "need" an aperture ring. though it is nice to have one with the fuji lenses, people might see it as a must have, which is odd. for example: with the 25/1.8 prime, your left hand is not needed to stabilize a E-M10, because it is that light! and my right hand can do all the adjusting
Jogger: Nice camera, but, sensor is still too small.
beavertown: Guess how much for EVF?
WTF has this number to to with an EVF for a line, i paid initially $300 for V1+kit lens ?!?
happypoppeye: Well, usually most of the comments here are "anti-brand" type but this time I have to agree with most of them. The camera looks great and I would definitely be interested. Looks like the nicest of the 1 series yet ...but $1199? That is almost just about insane. I need neither the EVF nor the grip, yet I have to buy it to get the camera ...dumb. Nikon is making people buy a camera that most people will buy for the size yet those people have to also buy the grip that will never be used by most? C'mon.
Things like this and like the Canon EOS-M AF make me think that maybe it is time for Nikon to Canon to start losing massive amounts of money on their photo divisions. Ashame ...great looking and spec'd camera.
ahm, no you don`t! you can buy it with the lens only and in some countries, even body only options are available. doesn't make the high price point appealing though!
funniest thing here is that you can see the obsession with more expensive PRO/more megapixel models: a7 vs a7Ri hear myself saying: go on hipsters, get your maximum pixel FF
Wingszero: It is rather a dilemma for me to order a X-e2 because of its price compared to X-pro1. $999 is even higher than its bigger brother now, though it is lighter, smaller(and maybe a little faster?). I'd rather wait for the next generation of X-pro1...
Wingzero, do you have the X-Pro1?
if not:do you need the OVF?or the lower resolution EVF?or the older X-Trans I sensor? or the slower EXR I processor? or the lack of lens modulation? or the lack of flash?or the lack of phase detection AF?
ah, no! the X-Pro1 is the current flagship, right? X-Pro1 IMO does not touch the X-E2.
eopix: How many of these changes will trickle down to existing X-E1's via firmware updates I wonder?
so true. but that's the catch: if you want some, come buy some!
tjbates: Everywhere else - this camera is a slam dunk. Strange that DPR thinks differently. The GH3 almost suffered the same fate. It was only for it's "video capabilities" that GH3 reluctantly gained the Gold award.Looks like anything in this bracket is and will be compared to the OMD-EM5 from now on and for evermore. Fair enough, but the viewfinder eye cup will not fall off the GX7, the flash doesn't require two pieces of plastic to be removed and a separate flash installed, the menu layout on the GX7 doesn't require a diploma in frustration and the button layout and grip allows for one handed "eye-to-viewfinder" use- unlike the OMD-EM5.I say this as a GH2 user and someone thinking of getting an OMD-EM5 if only for the fact that I've now got a fantastic collection of Olympus prime lenses. That said - the GX7 looks so much better on paper. It even shoots 25p video! I know the GX7 viewfinder is suspect but it's still so much better than the GH3 and OMD-EM5. IMHO.
i think, awards or that score are nothing compared to owning that camera and USING IT FOR PHOTOGRAPHY or videography or a paperweight, WHATEVER SUITS YOU...my nikon V1 got 69% and i loved shooting with it. i see the reasons for a scoring system but don't give too much on it.
steven_k: I love m43 even though I don't own one anymore.I just could never get over the noise even at base ISO.Yeah, I guess I can shoot in JPEG and have the camera apply noise reduction yet that limits the detail. Just look at any of the new m43 cameras here on DPR, check ISO 200, RAW and look at the blue square on the color checker chart, noise. For me I would have preferred m43 stayed at 12MP, I think this is / was the sweet spot for the 4/3 sensor.
> I just could never get over the noise even at base ISO
wait, you are making your living with photography, right?OMG... WHAT? *facepalm*go full frame, dude. less noise there for you mate. and you can pixelpeep happily on your 30" imac
some guys obviously buy cameras to look at them on screen with 100% ratio...did you ever PRINT some of these NOISY images? as it happens, they come out pretty well in my opinion.but i don't use a magnification glas on my printed photos as you might do...
David Smith - Photographer: Not much of an improvement over the X-E1. I don't like the Fuji processing. When you compare the image quality to a camera like the Olympus E-M5, you can clearly see that the output is softer, more processed. At higher ISO's there's less noise, but also less detail. I prefer to do my own processing rather then let the camera do it for me.
"Not much of an improvement over the X-E1"did you read the preview? there is a ton of improvements made in the X-E2...starting with the nicer lcd, +/-3 exposure dial, phase AF on sensor, high refresh EVF and my favorite: exposure preview!and so much more...and for the fuji processing, i can't say anything... downloaded raw files looked amazing to me, not clearly softer. so i don't share your negative view. but if you had experience with the output of that two cameras...
budi0251: Provided it can have a good & even sharpness lens for 20MP linear resolution (I'm hoping at least 66%-75% lph from nyquist @ all FL, flat no curvature field of sharpness).
For Dynamic Range & ISO performance, should be quite enough provided it doesn't getting worse from Nikon 1 or Sony RX100 series.
Good PD/CD AF like Nikon 1 or RX100 series.
Then I can sell most of my DSLRs, only leaving behind f/1.4 lenses and UWA (8-16mm) + 1 good simple DSLR body.
did you see the size of the FE lenses?
why was the X-E1 picture taken with a 35mm lens while MFT had the 50mm mounted and FF like A99 or 6D had 85mm???
nandyt: I can't believe it :( after much research I picked up the XE-1 with 18-55 kit lens for 1K$ just last week. Now I have an "Old" model when I have hardly started using it. What a shame!
Would it be recommendable to sell it and buy this?Feeling Buyer's Remorse like anything! :(
OMGOMG I DON'T HAVE THE LATEST-GRATEST-BIGGEST OMGOMGthis camera worked for a lot of people big time!
Tandua: IMHO No big improvement.
AF:I Switched from x100s to x-pro1 I didn't notice much AF speed in x100s cameraI don't expect much AF improvement in x-e2 too
WIFI:with the same battery type..and drains x-pro1/x100s capabilties?...no comments I own 4 spare batteries..with x-pro1..and x100s too.
Weather SealedNo yet...no good! (why?). Don't use in the desert.
DR:dpreview test report less DR for x100s...instead X-e1/x-pro1I expected same results in x-e2..no?
Pro:...more fn buttons...face dectetions...AF min shutter speed
cons:but..this is a Software...we can have the same functionalities in x-pro1/x-e1..with new firmware update, don't? (watch x100 new firmware...)
I hope a x-pro have:
wheater sealed21 mpxa real new x-trans sensor (no "s" model like iphone...4 ..4s...5...5s) stop this "moda" pleaseface detectiondynamic mode in raw tooand much batteries power! this X-camera drains...much power!
then don't buy it.