Wingszero: It is rather a dilemma for me to order a X-e2 because of its price compared to X-pro1. $999 is even higher than its bigger brother now, though it is lighter, smaller(and maybe a little faster?). I'd rather wait for the next generation of X-pro1...
Wingzero, do you have the X-Pro1?
if not:do you need the OVF?or the lower resolution EVF?or the older X-Trans I sensor? or the slower EXR I processor? or the lack of lens modulation? or the lack of flash?or the lack of phase detection AF?
ah, no! the X-Pro1 is the current flagship, right? X-Pro1 IMO does not touch the X-E2.
eopix: How many of these changes will trickle down to existing X-E1's via firmware updates I wonder?
so true. but that's the catch: if you want some, come buy some!
tjbates: Everywhere else - this camera is a slam dunk. Strange that DPR thinks differently. The GH3 almost suffered the same fate. It was only for it's "video capabilities" that GH3 reluctantly gained the Gold award.Looks like anything in this bracket is and will be compared to the OMD-EM5 from now on and for evermore. Fair enough, but the viewfinder eye cup will not fall off the GX7, the flash doesn't require two pieces of plastic to be removed and a separate flash installed, the menu layout on the GX7 doesn't require a diploma in frustration and the button layout and grip allows for one handed "eye-to-viewfinder" use- unlike the OMD-EM5.I say this as a GH2 user and someone thinking of getting an OMD-EM5 if only for the fact that I've now got a fantastic collection of Olympus prime lenses. That said - the GX7 looks so much better on paper. It even shoots 25p video! I know the GX7 viewfinder is suspect but it's still so much better than the GH3 and OMD-EM5. IMHO.
i think, awards or that score are nothing compared to owning that camera and USING IT FOR PHOTOGRAPHY or videography or a paperweight, WHATEVER SUITS YOU...my nikon V1 got 69% and i loved shooting with it. i see the reasons for a scoring system but don't give too much on it.
steven_k: I love m43 even though I don't own one anymore.I just could never get over the noise even at base ISO.Yeah, I guess I can shoot in JPEG and have the camera apply noise reduction yet that limits the detail. Just look at any of the new m43 cameras here on DPR, check ISO 200, RAW and look at the blue square on the color checker chart, noise. For me I would have preferred m43 stayed at 12MP, I think this is / was the sweet spot for the 4/3 sensor.
> I just could never get over the noise even at base ISO
wait, you are making your living with photography, right?OMG... WHAT? *facepalm*go full frame, dude. less noise there for you mate. and you can pixelpeep happily on your 30" imac
some guys obviously buy cameras to look at them on screen with 100% ratio...did you ever PRINT some of these NOISY images? as it happens, they come out pretty well in my opinion.but i don't use a magnification glas on my printed photos as you might do...
David Smith - Photographer: Not much of an improvement over the X-E1. I don't like the Fuji processing. When you compare the image quality to a camera like the Olympus E-M5, you can clearly see that the output is softer, more processed. At higher ISO's there's less noise, but also less detail. I prefer to do my own processing rather then let the camera do it for me.
"Not much of an improvement over the X-E1"did you read the preview? there is a ton of improvements made in the X-E2...starting with the nicer lcd, +/-3 exposure dial, phase AF on sensor, high refresh EVF and my favorite: exposure preview!and so much more...and for the fuji processing, i can't say anything... downloaded raw files looked amazing to me, not clearly softer. so i don't share your negative view. but if you had experience with the output of that two cameras...
budi0251: Provided it can have a good & even sharpness lens for 20MP linear resolution (I'm hoping at least 66%-75% lph from nyquist @ all FL, flat no curvature field of sharpness).
For Dynamic Range & ISO performance, should be quite enough provided it doesn't getting worse from Nikon 1 or Sony RX100 series.
Good PD/CD AF like Nikon 1 or RX100 series.
Then I can sell most of my DSLRs, only leaving behind f/1.4 lenses and UWA (8-16mm) + 1 good simple DSLR body.
did you see the size of the FE lenses?
why was the X-E1 picture taken with a 35mm lens while MFT had the 50mm mounted and FF like A99 or 6D had 85mm???
nandyt: I can't believe it :( after much research I picked up the XE-1 with 18-55 kit lens for 1K$ just last week. Now I have an "Old" model when I have hardly started using it. What a shame!
Would it be recommendable to sell it and buy this?Feeling Buyer's Remorse like anything! :(
OMGOMG I DON'T HAVE THE LATEST-GRATEST-BIGGEST OMGOMGthis camera worked for a lot of people big time!
Tandua: IMHO No big improvement.
AF:I Switched from x100s to x-pro1 I didn't notice much AF speed in x100s cameraI don't expect much AF improvement in x-e2 too
WIFI:with the same battery type..and drains x-pro1/x100s capabilties?...no comments I own 4 spare batteries..with x-pro1..and x100s too.
Weather SealedNo yet...no good! (why?). Don't use in the desert.
DR:dpreview test report less DR for x100s...instead X-e1/x-pro1I expected same results in x-e2..no?
Pro:...more fn buttons...face dectetions...AF min shutter speed
cons:but..this is a Software...we can have the same functionalities in x-pro1/x-e1..with new firmware update, don't? (watch x100 new firmware...)
I hope a x-pro have:
wheater sealed21 mpxa real new x-trans sensor (no "s" model like iphone...4 ..4s...5...5s) stop this "moda" pleaseface detectiondynamic mode in raw tooand much batteries power! this X-camera drains...much power!
then don't buy it.
neatnclean: Euro 899 for "quarter-format" mFT or 1499 for a "full-format" 36x24 sensored mirrorless cam ... same body size. hmmmm. :-)
"full-format" & "quarter-format" LOLit is 35mm format. not the center of the world, jesus!
ealvarez: I was about ready to get a GX7. Now I want this more.
GX7 has a whole lot more lens options...
Toccata47: The only point that matters is autofocus speed...I may have missed it, but I didn't see any commentary on this.
speed can be quality as well...
RichRMA: Almost, but quite as ugly as the Nikon V1.
Steve Phillips: I know it's early days .... but do you know if you will be able to use Leica M Mount lenses ( with Adaptor ) in Full Frame Mode ?Could be interesting !
they don't need one. read the blogs and threads. i have the feeling, that almost everyone pre-ordered one anyway...
Bastian Junker: Fuji Xpro 2 fullframe - yes, please.....please:-)
you know how expensive leica M glas is, right?
and DSLR: what good does the mirror do? when phase contrast is standard on all sensors, you could lose the mirror...
Tandua: very Pro Sony specs: Weather sealed
fuji x-pro1> nofuji x-e1 >nofuji x100s> no
fuji x-e2 ?...imho...no!
in a raining days...you are going to stop it
do you really go and shoot in the rain? i mean, do you??
Kendunn: Just what the world needs, another lens mount! Cameras do look impressive, though.
@dynaxx ironic, isn't it? do people read these preliminary reviews?
KW Phua: I am waiting for MF sensor to put into this camera before I will buy. With same price. With the same lens.
he means, he won't buy until sensor size is up to DIN A7.
Northgrove: I can't believe they did it. I mean coupling a 8x lens with a 1" sensor. I thought the lens would get too large, but this is a technological marvel and pretty awesome. Sony shows their skills in compactification once again.
Sure, it'll be expensive for a compact, but it'll also be the best compact superzoom that currently exists and will exist for some time.
but the size... THE SIZE!
HSway: I like the selection of lenses released at the launch very much. The f4 mid-range zoom is voted the first interest lens on SAR. Speciality lenses will be certainly added. Nikon users ask for compact 35 affordable prime long time. I read the 35/2.8 is only 120g. Very in line with the main concept of the A7 Alphas. If they are very good wide open it all comes spot on. Road map that just showed up confirms the next lenses coming are f4 UWA and large aperture prime.
It seems the camera is equipped with traditional f.p. shutter. It’s loud and a distinct mechanical aspect of the camera, I can understand it. But the trend is different and soft sounding shutters such as in d7000 line and d600 are very popular, including the Q mode. I didn’t see any quiet/silent mode reference re Alphas 7. This shutter can cause problems, and likely to induce vibrations during its mirrorless shutter cycle in tiny bodies. Still probably a profitable choice for the mass market. /
it does with a moving sensor. this thing, i don't think you will see shutter shock.