Linking this into the debate on Adobe CC proposals and pricing - this is what should frighten Adobe and other "giants" - open source whether for camera control or image manipulation is excellent software - and whats more people work on it for love and enthusiasm and that is always a better task master than purely for moola.
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Posted on May 14, 2013 at 09:30:08 UTC
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PhotoHawk: I am against buying CS as a service (in the cloud). It is very much in Adobe's interest to have me work with CS in a subscription model and very much not in my interest. Adobe can artificially create a "burning bush" by making new features available only in the cloud but frankly all they will do is alienate me and I'll find an alternate such as Capture One for example that recognizes that not everyone wants a software as a service model. Frankly I think Adobe is a getting a bit too pushy and is putting long term alienation of its user base at the altar of short term profits. But then most of us have been saying that for years.
As someone said earlier upgrade lightroom for the RAW manipulation and then put it back in your existing version of PS.
Although i dare say adobe will close that loophole if they see revenue slide!
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Posted on May 14, 2013 at 09:27:01 UTC
jerrith: Well, actually there's only one group of users to blame and that's all those that copy the software and don't pay license fees at all. Those are the one's that make companies like Adobe look for ways how to make sure there are only legal versions available and thus turn to something like the cloud where you can't use your illegal copy of the software anymore. It's a sad fact, but it's us legal users who willingly pay for a great piece of software engineering that take the fall for all the thieves out there. For every legal version in use there are multiple illegal versions downloaded. If nobody used illegal software, companies would be able to drop their price easily as they could sell more copies. But hey, downloading software isn't stealing, right? YES IT IS!!
99.99% of illicit use will never move on to a revenue stream for adobe because either a) they can't afford it, b) they are not looking for commercial use or c) other alternatives can do most of photoshops things they need.
Maybe it would be better for adobe to extend student licencing into a "non-commercial" licencing offer to attract new paying users?
But seeing as they are "pricing" solely for fat profits I can't see them changing until revenue stagnation or even decline is evident to them.
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Posted on May 14, 2013 at 08:19:53 UTC
Linking this into the debate on Adobe CC proposals and pricing - this is what should frighten Adobe and other "giants" - open source whether for camera control or image manipulation is excellent software - and whats more people work on it for love and enthusiasm and that is always a better task master than purely for moola.
PhotoHawk: I am against buying CS as a service (in the cloud). It is very much in Adobe's interest to have me work with CS in a subscription model and very much not in my interest. Adobe can artificially create a "burning bush" by making new features available only in the cloud but frankly all they will do is alienate me and I'll find an alternate such as Capture One for example that recognizes that not everyone wants a software as a service model.
Frankly I think Adobe is a getting a bit too pushy and is putting long term alienation of its user base at the altar of short term profits.
But then most of us have been saying that for years.
As someone said earlier upgrade lightroom for the RAW manipulation and then put it back in your existing version of PS.
Although i dare say adobe will close that loophole if they see revenue slide!
jerrith: Well, actually there's only one group of users to blame and that's all those that copy the software and don't pay license fees at all. Those are the one's that make companies like Adobe look for ways how to make sure there are only legal versions available and thus turn to something like the cloud where you can't use your illegal copy of the software anymore.
It's a sad fact, but it's us legal users who willingly pay for a great piece of software engineering that take the fall for all the thieves out there. For every legal version in use there are multiple illegal versions downloaded. If nobody used illegal software, companies would be able to drop their price easily as they could sell more copies. But hey, downloading software isn't stealing, right? YES IT IS!!
99.99% of illicit use will never move on to a revenue stream for adobe because either a) they can't afford it, b) they are not looking for commercial use or c) other alternatives can do most of photoshops things they need.
Maybe it would be better for adobe to extend student licencing into a "non-commercial" licencing offer to attract new paying users?
But seeing as they are "pricing" solely for fat profits I can't see them changing until revenue stagnation or even decline is evident to them.
When you have 11 or 6 employees - the luxury of a "Director of Communications" is one you can do without lol