pdelux: Looks like a Panasonic Lens... who copied who?
I don't get your point. What does it matter that some (!) industrial workers are not German. They produce to German standards (if you like to call it that way) and earn the same as their German collegues. From personal experiance, I'd rate the professional skill sets of average Eastern European industrial workers (Polish, Chech, ect) similar to German or other Western European workers (likely higher than the average American worker). Some French collegues did rather worst. Some German collegues are real hacks too, btw.
I'm doing nothing fancy, though. Just some high precision grinding in the past, worked on passenger planes (A320, A380) for a while and currently rebuilding of jet engine parts... ;)
Raist3d: I like how so many find the price too high but don't seem to understand this lens is hand made in Germany with most likely well paid workers - and I bet hand tested quite a bit before it leaves the factory combined with Leicas legendary customer support. Its probably one of the best lenses ever made in this class.
This cost money. Doesn't mean you can't do great photography with cheaper lenses but I think there are reasons beyond "luxury brand" why this lens is pricey.
You are right. High quality tools (a Leica lens is just a tool, too) do cost 'slightly' more than the 'common stuff'.
For instance, at work I use a German made 'Dremel' from MVK-line. Half the size, twice the power, twice the top-speed (max 50,000rpm), well better made than your common 'Dremel', it costs €1500. A 'Dremel' costs maybe €100.A ridicoulous expensive tool? Actually not. Just simply superiour quality.
Back to Leica:I have only limited experiance with a M9 and a 35mm Summilux (rented them for a couple of days). A very nicely made and very good lens. Didn't like the camera much, though. Simply a better lens than my Nikkor AF 28mm/1.4D and AFS 35mm/1.4G. Apples and oranges, I know...
If I take a look at my current collegues, they are well educated, well trained, very skilled and well paid Eastern European workers. ;)
Fazal Majid: Manfrotto finally sees the light and adopts Gitzo-style leg locks. Too little, too late to stem the tide of Chinese knock-offs?
Not exactly. Manfrotto, Gitzo, Sachtler and a dozen of other brands are owned by http://www.vitecgroup.com
'If there's one single thing that Manfrotto is known for, it's quality tripods...'I like to disagree. I worked with some Manfrottos and tried some of the newer models of the 'usual suspects' (aka MA 190, MA 055, ect). Manfrotto tripods are not really good quality or sturdy enough for a DSLR and lenses like 70-200/2,8 for instance.Compared to real quality tripods Manfrottos are cheaply made and too wobbly.
Marc S: Just to mention it: A Nikkor 'D' lens only relays the distance of focus to the camera. Its a variant of the Nikon F mount and says nothing about the quality or price of a given lens and is in no way comparable to a Canon 'L' lens.If you are setting rules, you should know what you are talking about...Marc
>Not really. As far as I know, the "D" has nothing to do with distance.
Then you don't know much about Nikon lenses.The distance information a 'D' Nikkor relays to the camera, is in 99% the only difference between most Nikkor AF and AF-D lenses. :))
> D lenses are older than G, D has aperture rings, G has not and the G lenses are better coated and better handle CA. That's about all.
Right about aperture ring, SOME G-Nikkors have better coating simply because they where designed a decade or more later, but I wouldn't bet at all on the CA issue.
If I remember correctly, there was a brief period after the introduction of the D1h where you could get Nikon Service to update the D1 firmware to D1h firmware (or D1h-like-firmware). I could swear a friend had it done on his D1.
Just to mention it: A Nikkor 'D' lens only relays the distance of focus to the camera. Its a variant of the Nikon F mount and says nothing about the quality or price of a given lens and is in no way comparable to a Canon 'L' lens.If you are setting rules, you should know what you are talking about...Marc