I have no issue with any of this. The LX7 is a fine compact camera. The D-Lux 6 adds the Leica improved colour processing, a copy of Lightroom and the red dot branding.
This designer special extends the idea further giving the very fetching leather trim (making it a fine looking camera to me) and the designer case and strap.
My ex-wife often blew a grand on some overpriced fancy designer bag. It was part of her costume to help her feel at ease in the various social circles she mingled in. It wasn't my thing, and could have thought of a hundred other things to blow the money on, but it made her happy.
The best camera is the one you always have with you. One approach is a good compact camera. But there's no doubt these have a consumer electronics or tech-geek look about them.
This is a very smart looking camera which could help the stylish, who would normally shun carrying a gadget, to enjoy the benefits of the camera you have with you.
You forgot the update for Sony for their RX1. Oh wait, it's Sony, there isn't one.
(unknown member): The only thing Leica are perhaps guilty of is in bothering to send their press release on the X Vario to DPR and in doing so exposing themselves to the ridicule of people who have little understanding of Leica's real business and who naively think their opinion on photographic minutiae actually matters. It's a bit like trying to market a Riva launch to someone who lives in a council flat. This camera will probably sell quite well to its intended market. It's just that it's intended market isn't most of you, however some of you are unable to appreciate that.
70/6.4 is not impressive, but it's not a deal breaker. I have many shots at higher F stops.
F/3.5 is disappointing, because on a fixed lens camera, I want at least one FL with a wide aperture to get some low-light shots with a fast enough shutter speed to stop motion blur, without pushing iso too far. Still not a deal breaker.
But take these two extracts from the press release:
"..combined with its fast and precise autofocus offers even the most demanding photographers maximum creative freedom – for spontaneous shots.."
"it allows photographers to concentrate completely on composing their subjects and choosing the decisive instant to shoot in any situation"
These press my buttons; important things I lost when moving from DSLR to smaller cameras. It must be a really impressive new AF to achieve all that. Very exciting.
If genuine they may have me even @ F3.5-6.4 / £2KIf false, they're deceitful snake oil sellers.
First reports found oil. Perhaps guilty of more than you think.
Najinsky: God, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change,The courage to change the things I can,And wisdom to know the difference.
It's that last bit that's giving me issues.
Take the bare faced lies of marketeers, abusing the hard earned reputation of a once great brand, with the sole aim of seducing and milking those guilty only of trust.
Is that something I can change or can't? Should I even try to get involved, if people want to buy it, it's their money.
"fast and precise autofocus"... "allows photographers to concentrate completely on composing their subjects... decisive instant... any situation."
Yet reports say 'reasonable'. Reasonable CDAF means, sometimes it locks, sometimes on the subject, but maybe the background.
Is this not deceitful? Are DPR complicit in this?
Should marketeers have to prove they are not trying to deceive buyers before DPR gives it free coverage?
Is that something we could change?
Should announcements be moderated?
Here's a specific example for you.
Ricoh is known for their respect of their customers, designing the features they believe their customers truly want, not half-cocked features just to to grab headlines.
This shows in their press release:
For sure is has some hyperbole, but they make an effort to qualify things with figures, "can focus in 0.2sec", or footnotes.
And clearly there will always, for all brands, be a marketing spin on things where they may focus a little too much on what they set out to achieve rather than what they managed.
But for me, the Ricoh GR announcement is acceptable and doesn't cross the boundaries of customer respect.
This Leica one I find has too many customer-disrepecting barefaced lies. It crosses the boundary of intentionally deceitful in some areas.
If you didn't publish any, perhaps they'd learn to tone it down somewhat.
I appreciate you are in some ways between a rock and a hard place. Ad supported, owned by Amazon, yet also one of the top photography sites for consumers, so you have a tricky balance to strike.
But as far as I know, Amazon don't care which brands they sell, so long as they are selling. Amazon is hugely convenient for buying and I spend a lot with them.
But to figure out what to buy, that's the trick, and that's where you guys fit in. And don't take this the wrong way, but the speed you get through your reviews, makes it somewhat of a lottery whether I have a review or just a press release to go on.
I'm sure Amazon want to see more customer satisfaction and fewer returns. Isn't that why they bought DPR, so buyers can make better informed decisions, hopefully achieving both aims.
If not you, who can make a stand against this nonsense?
God, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change,The courage to change the things I can,And wisdom to know the difference.
Some people will buy this camera just because others can't afford to, but would never dare use it, for fear of being reminded of their lost humanity.
It's alarming here how many people just don't get it.
And before you retort about the price, remember, everything is negotiable.
I ordered all five and managed to negotiate a free digital IXUS so I can photograph them once they are in the display case.
Not laughing now are you!!
Najinsky: I glanced at nearly all the comments and don't understand why I seem to be the only one concerned about focussing manual focus glass. That's what the rangefinder part of the M is for.
So take away the rangefinder, and you get a camera that takes manual focus lenses, without the part that helps you focus?
Let's hope it comes with some stellar focus confirmation aids.
@T3 - You have picked up on the wrong emphasis. It's not about the removal of the rangefinder, or rangefinder quirks, it's about what focus confirmation aids WILL be included. That's what will peak my interest in using this camera.
If you're truly happy with FP and magnification, I'm happy for you and good luck with your shooting.
But I don't understand why you try to turn it into an argument or debate. Your personal preferences will not be influencing my decision one jot.
I'm assuming the sensor and ergonomics will be great; the three important unknown factors are performance, size and how quickly and accurately I can achieve focus. So I'll be hoping for something a notch up from the current standards of FP and magnification.
@T3 I've used focus peaking on my Ricohs and Sony's so no need to look it up, and while I'm a fan I don't see it in its current incarnation as something to rely on for every shot, all the time. Too many false positives and a bit of luck needed to nail critical focus.
We really need something much better than current standards of FP.
I can't believe you are serious about magnification, I find it useless for anything other than static product photography. I hate losing sight of the composition.
The Fuji X100S split view focus using PD sensors looks interesting on the DPR demo, but I haven't seen how well it works in practice.
I glanced at nearly all the comments and don't understand why I seem to be the only one concerned about focussing manual focus glass. That's what the rangefinder part of the M is for.
Najinsky: @DPR: Did these get edited?
In the linked article and website the images have a softer palette and tone, more like the image bottom right.
But on this site the first two look a lot more saturated and contrasty. Were they edited for display here or is there another reason for the difference?
Thanks for the response. I'm using Safari 6.0.4 on OSX 10..8.3 and a calibrated Retina display. I don't usually experience colour management issue with the browser. Perhaps the other sites aren't including the colour profile in their image display.
Based purely on personal preferences, I think the first image looks much better on this site and benefits from the additional contrast, although some of the other images do suit the lower contrast appearance I see on the other sites.
@DPR: Did these get edited?
rocklobster: Pity that there is a pop-up flash where an EVF should go. But I suppose that if you really want an EVF then you should buy an E-M5 and anyway I prefer the ergonomics of the E-M5 with the two control dials that readily fall to the thumb and forefinger of my (albeit) small hand.
Also, I would hope that the in-built flash performs better than the clip-on 'kit' flash.
I guess we're all different. The dial placement of the EM-5 is its absolute worst feature. Still bugs me now after nearly a year shooting with it, and the E-P5 looks no better.
My thumb is a good 1/2 inch too short to turn the rear dial from the shooting grip. I have to take the weight of the camera with my left hand and then move my right hand up from the shooting grip to reach the rear dial with enough purchase to turn it.
With both my Ricoh GXR and Canon DSLRs, I could operate both front and rear controls from the shooting grip, holding the camera in one hand, with no danger of loosing my grip on the camera.
Try holding the EM-5 in one hand above your head (like shooting over a crowd with the swivel screen for framing). Then try to quickly and accurately turn the rear dial with your thumb. I bet most normal thumbed people would drop the camera!
I'd like to see a youtube video of someone managing to operate it. That would be one big flexible thumb!
Anepo: One of his photographs on his website can literally be called a pedophile photograph, it is an underskirt photo of an underage girls bloodied underwear, an EXTREMELY inappropriate photograph that screams "call the cops".
Excellent solution. Call in the authority to protect the people the authority already failed to protect. I see it so clearly now.
I originally interpreted the photo as "sanitary products are hard to come by when you illegally ride the freight train", and I don't think that's a pleasant situation whether you're 12 or 40.
But if you wan't to give it a pedo meaning, I'd go with "escaping the 'protection' of authority".
So first I wake up inexplicably early this morning, and now it looks like my girlfriend has drugged my coffee.
I'm hallucinating that DPR have posted rumours and pictures of a camera they'll almost certainly have under NDA, if not today then a few days before it's release next week.
Are NDA's retroactive? Can you still sign them if you've done the D'd?
Can't wait for the drug to wear off and see what story I really posted this against.
Najinsky: Sigma are the real maverick.
They make some stunning glass, especially under this new Art series banner. The announced 18-35/1.8 could be a transformation lens for APS-C.
But they've made some real dogs too!
I just hope the 'A' isn't just for show when it comes to the M4/3 versions and that they deliver the performance to back it up.
With both Zeiss and Sigma targeting the NEX (and Zeiss backing Fuji's X mount too) m4/3 is in danger of losing a key advantage over other mirror-less systems, it's range of lenses.
Still, things are hardly standing still in m.4/3 land, so I'm not losing sleep just yet. The OM-D and a selection of excellent glass is serving me very well.
But for the future, with Sony holding a pile of Oly shares, the excellent sensors, ridiculously compact bodies for the features, and now a growing range of compelling glass, it doesn't take a hugely warped imagination to think of a wall with some writing on it.
Maverick - "An unorthodox or indépendant-minded person".
Sigma is a family owned business and the largest independent lens maker.
But unpredictable; you never know what you are going to get. A stunning optic at half the price of a competitor or a bit of a turkey.
A compact camera with Medium Format IQ, taking an hour or two to focus.
And don't mention sample variation.
Last year they made a commitment to customers and quality. Not just with words, but with a new quality verification system and a revamp of their product line.
So far they've delivered.
So I'm hoping it's all for real and they take m43 seriously and deliver a high quality optic at a competitive price.
But currently, their m43 line up / announcements suggests they see m4/3 as the low end of the scale. Reserving their higher quality offerings for APS-C and FF bodies.
I don't see that as in m4/3's favour. NEX is already outselling m4/3 despite its lens offerings. These high quality lenses can only help NEX further.
Sigma are the real maverick.
peevee1: Another fixed focal length fixed lens cam? Do you ALWAYS shoot at a single focal length and don't care about composition and perspective at all? How many people are like that? They all have been served by X100 2 years ago (and a few of them may upgrade to X100s, maybe). RX1, Nikon A, Ricoh GR etc will just fail in the market, because the market is too small. If any customer will buy a camera like that by mistake, they will return it as soon as they find out that it is just as limited as their phone, only there is no even the "pinch to zoom" digital zoom.And this GR does not even have any stabilization, at all, so it sucks even compared to a good smartphone.
Zooms offer great convenience, especially as you move towards the Tele end. But they can also make you a bit lazy with your compositions where you simply zoom to make it better, rather than explore to make it best.
I periodically force myself to use a single focal length to help develop my seeing eye. The X100 was great for this but quite hefty.
A few months ago, I would have been disappointed at 28mm, preferring 35mm for a single FL, but more recently I've been discovering just how versatile this FL can be and I'm ready to give it a go, so the new GR just ticks all the right boxes for me.
The Imaging resource site has just posted their test scene from the new GR and the rendering from the lens/sensor is just sublime. GR is a real stunner. I could examine the raw straight away, thanks to the use of DNG.
jacketpotato: There was sufficient body girth (looking at handgrip) to put F2.Maybe even F1.8 with a litte extra portrusion that the phtographers this is aimed at would been fine with .. what a camera that woud have been.
F/2 is not important for me anymore for this type of camera.
Performance is clearly great wide open across the frame. Even my Fuji suffers a bit wide open. I look through my X100 images and it's very clear I'm getting my best images mostly in range from F/2.8 to F/6.7.
F/1.4 would bring something real and tangible, but F/2 vs F/2.8, where the's F/2 really need to be stopped down anyway, it's a 1 to 3% advantage at best.The key figures here are:
◦ 16.2MP APS-C ◦ 28mm/2.8 ◦ 245 g ◦ 117 x 61 x 35 mm
The smallest lightest fixed lens APS-C.
But not only the smallest and lightest, it's got the full Ricoh ergonomics and control interface for un-compromised shooting.
Add in the excellent Sony sensor, then a GR lens. Seriously sweet, serious compact.
Many people will take comfort in their F/2 camera, and I'm happy for them. But I almost lost my shorts on many occasions thanks to the X100 weight, risking serious indecent exposure!
245 g is a new league of serious compact.