I love it when DPR engages in the rumour mill. The one thing it tells us for certain is you don't have one yet, or it would likely be covered by your NDA.
Probably just a white SL1 for the Asian market.
Remember Guys, the scores and awards are just DPR's own take on how it all comes together.
The real gem in these reviews is the effort DPR put into making it, and time spent documenting it in all those pages before the conclusions.
I remember the Ricoh GXR review, where it got a shockingly low score (bad DPR)
I had the GXR/A33 APS-C and it was fantastic. Great IQ, a belter of a lens, superb ergonomics with the twin control dial and grip. It was a great camera hidden inside an unusual and for some, flawed, concept.
The conclusions and scores were as much a reflection of DPR's take on the concept and what they chose to treat as its peers. But behind the scores it was all still there, in the detail of the review. Great IQ, great ergonomics and so on.
And so it is with this GX7 (which has hardly been given a bad score).
There's plenty in the review to help you reach your own conclusions. So just be happy all this work has been done for you, look at the detail and take what you need.
SergeyMS: I am very impressed by RX1R and RX100II, but consider QX, RX10, and new A7 as a mistake of Sony.
The biggest issue with the RX100 was the quality of the lens. It really didn't do the great sensor any favours at many focal lengths.
RX10 is a dream combination of sensor and lens.
I know ex R1 users wanted APS-C, but the lens would be just too big and/or limited for a fixed lens camera.
If the operation isn't compromised, I think the RX10 will be pure Gold.
Very few people will see the difference between an APS-C with kit lenses and the 1" sensor, and given the superb lens, most of the time that difference will actually be in the RX10's favour.
It's destined to become my family camera for all those the occasions I don't want the inconvenience of interchangeable lenses
"I'll be with you in a minute dear, just changing lenses again"
Sony and Software, a marriage made in hell. Opening up the API may yet prove to be the smartest thing they ever did.
Shutter speed too low, or shutter shock?
Is anything actually being painted here?
When I paint with light, I paint an object. So the object is in the scene, and during the long exposure I paint it with light from a flashlight. The object being painted is in the scene, the flashlight isn't.
But here it looks like the flashlight itself is the subject. I'm guessing he wore a dark outfit, went into the scene, drew the shapes in the air and then left the scene.
The mind boggles at how much effort this must have taken. Bet he got a lot of out-takes too!
Tandua: I use Aperture, I like it...but:
No Automatic Lens Barrel/Distorsion/Aberration control...yet
LR yesDxo YesCapture Yes
...only aperture doesn't have.
Is it possible deactive face detection process, it spends 100% (8 cpu processor)?
No layer..(always must export to tiff format for applied a filter)
I hope to see Aperture 5.0 in the future
Faces - Goto Preferences.General.Enable Faces select/deselect
Lens corrections - Aperture does this automatically when correction data is supplied in the raw by the cameras. Eg: M4/3, Sony RX100, many premium compacts. The practice seems to be very slowly being adopted by others too. Certainly beats all the manual testing DXO, Adobe, etc have to do to build profiles. Perhaps one day all raws will carry the correction parameters and manual profiles will be a thing of the past. If Apple sees it the same way, I doubt they'll spend time investing in the past.
Shared Layers - would require enormous cooperation between the app makers (Apple, Adobe, DXO, etc) and the filter makers. No app currently does this. If you build it they will come?
Please, do feel free to go, but how about keeping the noise down as you leave, no need to be loutish about it!
And no need to justify your decision to us, if Aperture doesn't do what you want, then perhaps it's your time to fly.
But it is a bit strange, after all, the product still does all the great things it did when you bought it. It's had loads of new features added for free. It gets regular bug fixes as bugs get reported and squished. And the raw camera updates continue to flow, and not rushed out but done to the high standard users have come to expect, with support for maker notes and camera features not supported by certain other brands.
Sure you might want some new features, but which? The internet shows there is far from a consensus. The plug-in architecture gets around this, giving far more variety than Apple could justify developing.
Here's a free tip. Put your money into good lenses, not more software, and you won't need half the features you think you need.
This isn't a case of jumping on the Hassy trend, Ricoh has a long history of producing special editions of their GRs using alternative finishes, some of them truly truly ghastly.
But it's just an extra option to their regular stuff, and they've been doing it so long they must have some sort fan-base for the practice.
I suspect many of you are only just noticing Ricoh since the APS-C GR (or perhaps the Pentax take-over). They march to their own drum, and have a bit of a wacky side to them, but they make some great cameras.
Najinsky: Well, I'm (genuinely) happy for you guys who can make use of this but unfortunately my X100 is an ornament.
It's an ornament because it developed Sticky Aperture Blades and I can't get it fixed.
I can't get it fixed because Fuji won't publicly acknowledge the problem and insists it goes via warranty repair.
It can't go via warranty repair because the required warranty card and receipt were in a document wallet that got stolen in Thailand (all it had was receipts so the thief got nothing but deprived me of a fix).
They were being carried in the wallet in the vain hope of finding a repair centre while travelling, who spoke enough English to understand the problem in the absence of any public acknowledgement I could show them.
I know some of you get annoyed with me for beating down on Fuji for this, but you know what a great camera it is and I bet you'd feel the same if YOU lost the ability to use yours because of an unacknowledged manufacturing defect and bureaucracy.
gabriel, you are having an issue with your language comprehension.
No threat was made.
I'm just pointing out that when people meet in person, we are more aware of common respect because there can be consequences to direct unprovoked insults.
For some reason, some people feel comfortable making insults from the comfort of their keyboard that they likely wouldn't do in real life.
andywhoa is the transgressor here. He rudely and disrespectfully called me a flat out liar in respect of my X100 issues.
You see, you mistakenly thought I made a threat, so I could simply have called you a flat out liar. But I have more respect for you than that, so I have instead taken the time to explain that you had a comprehension issue. I don't feel the need to be disrespectful to you just because I'm sat behind a keyboard.
andywhoa - It's very rude and dis-respectful to call me a liar just because your experience differed. You have no basis for making that claim.
Good job you made it from behind your keyboard, if you'd done it in person I'd have knocked you out cold.
Well, I'm (genuinely) happy for you guys who can make use of this but unfortunately my X100 is an ornament.
The Photo Ninja: I just posted 29 pics regarding shutter shock here: http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/52273869
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Robgo2: Anyone who cannot see the superor output from Photo Ninja is either in denial or needs an eye exam. And this superiority holds for other cameras and sensors as well.
I did extensive testing with Photo Ninja and it became part of my standard toolkit, but it's not top dog, just very good at default conversions which are heavily enhanced. This may suit some but not others.
For example, highlight recovery enhances the colour by guessing. When it guesses right, it does a great job as can be seen in the photos above on the blue skies. But sometimes it guesses wrong and gives false colours so has to be turned off and then it's not so good.
When I put it up against Aperture, it produced nicer initial conversions, but that's because Aperture defaults to a very neutral image and leaves it to you to add the sauce. Once I tune the images to my preferences, I still find Aperture the better tool.
But I see no reason to limit myself to a single tool, after all I use multiple cameras and lenses. So I use Aperture as my main processor but revert to Photo Ninja, DXO or Lightroom for those images which benefit from the strong features of those other tools.
Jinks81: How come Fuji cameras are the only ones with practically no chroma noise in RAW?
Either they changed physics or remove it during processing
CameraLabTester: Shutter shock?
Oh come on!
Get a leaf!
Sergey Borachev: This camera should not have been made, now that a better top camera, the E-M5 has already been on the market. Olympus should just update the E-M5 and forget this E-P5. It is too expensive but lacks an EVF. Once the real E-M5 replacement appears in a few months, with a new sensor, this camera will be left on the shelves, if not already.
(The E-M1 is a different camera for 43 users and those with special needs.) There is simply no room between the E-M5 or its replacement and the E-PL5 to slot in this E-P5.
I disagree Sergey. The PL and PM series have stripped down features to keep the cost and size down. The P series is full featured without going to an SLR style body.
While I personally prefer SLR style, I know a lot of people for whom the P is their ideal choice, and I don't see why they should be left out just because of my preferences.
Celebrate the difference!
Image Shake / Shutter Shock.
I've had the EM-5 for over a year now and it's a fantastic balance between size and performance. Shutter shock was also a widely discussed topic when the EM-5 came out.
The 'fix' on the EM-5 is to engage Anti-Shock from custom menu 'E'. I use the fastest setting of 1/8s (shame there isn't a faster setting of say 1/32s) which essentially introduces a 1/8s delay to the shutter.
I was concerned about this delay but after a year of shooting, it's truly a non issue for me. Where split-second timing is critical, I use continuous drive anyway to capture 3/6 frames per second.
In rare cases where single frame and split-second timing is needed, ISO 400 or 800 give great IQ.
I suspect the reason it's a little more prevalent on the P5 is due to the new ISO 100 setting, leading to lower shutter speeds.
In short, if you wan't the performance/size benefits, don't let shutter-shock put you off. All cameras have compromises, and this issue is an easy work-around.
Well done. I've been calling for a feedback forum on numerous occasions over the past few years, I really think you need it. I think it will sometimes be hard reading for you, but ultimately will lead to significant improvements as you get a better handle on users issues.