Mirrorlessplease: The lens focal lengths I am interested in are 1.4 50mm, 1.4 35mm, 1.4 24mm, 2.8, 17mm, 1.4 85mm, 2.8 100mm macro 1:1. Tilt shift 24/17mm. These can all be manual focused if it means they're as small as leica lenses. I want as small as possible lenses I can have for street photography. I know this is asking for a lot but there's no harm in mentioning what I'd like! Please don't suggest voigtlander, I hate the bokeh on those
well then look into voigtlander/zeiss ZM mount offerings...
DavidNJ100: The only review I've read of the A7 II (on Cinema 5D) was less than impressive.
The Nikon vote may be suffering because it is split. The D810 has an amazing sensor. The D750 is arguably the best value and fits nearly all the high end features (except 1/8000 sec shutter and 1/250 flash sync) in best high end DSLR chassis. What we need is the D820...the D810 sensor in a D750 body. With 4k video.
The Sony A7s was game changing. Many cinematographers need to keep one in their kit just to handle low light circumstances. Now that 4k video recorders are becoming available that can explode. The next step up is video RAW recording which costs at least 3x as much, and usually 4x-5x as much.
That said all of these will pale compared to 2016's or 2017's cameras: 42Mp with 4k video from binning, 4:2:2 10-bit video out, EVF or maybe even enhanced OVF/EVF switchable viewfinder, flip screens, WiFi, etc.
really? cause I dont see ANY review on the A7 II @ cinema 5D. Perhaps you could provide us with a link? (my guess is that you confused A7 with A77 :D )However, before posting such an ignorant-smelly post, you should try to google out some real reviews, Im sure youll find something ;) Just an example follows here...http://www.stevehuffphoto.com/2014/12/27/the-sony-a7ii-real-world-camera-review-my-camera-of-the-year-2014/
nand: No need to vote. From DPR's statistics above, it show that the Fuji X-T1 is going to be the winner. It shows 856 people own it and 669 want it. That tops all the other ones.
well for sure it wins in these "metrics"...since its been around for almost a full year. D750 and A7II have been out for a couple of weeks/days respectively ;)
raally? the otus 85/1.4 is missing??? the best rated lens out there??
josseee: A77 II honorabled....where the hell is the review when you honor it so much, dear preview? Its been half a year since the damn thing came out!!! The same with a7s... this web is sinking
and that is the point...dpreview is not helpful with the purchase anymore...
@pheanix300where exactly am I crying and saying something about dpr hating sony?? Im pointing out the ridiculousness of this "roundup"!! Im also mentioning the A7s, but because Im personally interested in buying this cam, not because its a sony. I remember that they started some experimental ridiculous comparison review GH4 vs A7s. After a while they realised how stupid comparison it is..and abandoned the idea. GH4 got its review a month ago, but the a7s...well...guess they lost the damn thing somewhere.. or whatever :D
amit patnaik: they published without testing the Sony and Canon? Nikon paid them.
Read 7. Which enthusiast dslr should I buy?
@Rishiyes, we know...been 6 months since the cam is out, we all hope that within 4-5 months you will manage to "finish" the review :D
A77 II honorabled....where the hell is the review when you honor it so much, dear preview? Its been half a year since the damn thing came out!!! The same with a7s... this web is sinking
Frank C.: it's a sony
no envy..its called canikon snobbism ;)
josseee: did you use an inferior lens on the GH4 for the comparison tool? Compared to the sony, the RAWS look like mud (even on pictures with 3 EV difference)
in that case it would be better as a dedicated videocamera :) the stills are really dreadful these 2 cams really deserve their wn review...not a comparison one :(
did you use an inferior lens on the GH4 for the comparison tool? Compared to the sony, the RAWS look like mud (even on pictures with 3 EV difference)
Anastigmat: It doesn't look like the wide angle lenses take advantage of the short registration distance of the E mount and are simply retrofocal 35mm lenses.
rrr_hhh: I never liked the APSC format. May be because i started photography with a film camera a range finder which was much lighter than current enthusiast DSLRs.
My first digital DSLR camera was the Canon D60 and the crop factor was a real pain for wide angle lenses. I updated to the Canon 5D as soon as it was issued. But the weight of the whole system always bothered me.
Nowadays, i find that the weight and size of MFT is the best compromise. But recently i got an A7r and i do really like it : it remembers me of my first RF camera (for weight and size).
The problem with the A7 series are the lenses : how big do they have to be in order to offer good performance in the corners ? I'm thinking of selling the Canon 6D : had i known about the coming A7 series, i wouldn't have updated the 5D. Now i have three systems and should get rid of one.. Probably the Canon .. We will see.
not as big as some trols like to say, look at the comparison of the new 16-35/4 vs the canon alternativehttp://cdn0.digiphoto.techbang.com.tw/system/images/86903/medium/38842eacf7073e92911c0c25b61e2244.jpg?1411440635according to the early review, it seems to be very good performer, not lacking by the canon at all...
"we consider our sensors to be the best"yes, mr. Maeda, thats exactly why are you are showing off this new shiny G7 X with a sony sensor inside :D :D :D
josseee: dpreview shows its "profesionality"..only one week delayed news.
anyway, still no 85mm lens..not even a mention about it being planned (only some rumors). Instead we get a 3th 35mm lens :D
speaking of "double duty option" going for a fast 85 (1.4) you receive 1) portrait lens 2) low light lensso, there you go...
the same "apsc-people" logic applies to the 35, dont you think? (anyway 128mm equivalent is still a portrait lens, what is the purpose of people buying the ZA135/1.8?what do you think?) Anyway you twist it, the demand for fast 85 is higher than the demand for 35. I effectively proved it to you.If one is serious about portraiture, one gets a dedicated portrait lens. doesnt go for compromises...
even with 90/2.8 available, still more people would pick a fictional 85/1.4 over a real 35/1.4, check the poll on SAR ;)http://www.sonyalpharumors.com/poll-tell-us-what-new-fe-lens-you-are-likely-going-to-buy/I know that many portraits are taken at 5.6 or around. Again you misunderstood me. Im talking about lens, not the aperture at which its used. There is virtually no REAL portrait photographer that doesnt have at least F1.8 lens. Not saying that they actually shoot ALL portraits wide open, but they want to have the option to occasionally use ultra-shallow-dof.
did I say something about the three 35mm being produced by sony? Im talking about native e-mount
1) I didnt ask for a fast 35..2.8 is plenty good at this FL for me.Just check how many portrait photographers are using a relatively slow 2.8 prime lens..not many I can tell you. A 1.8/1.4 lens is a standard for anyone into portrait photography. On the other hand, a 35/1.4 is not thaaat common...
2) suitable yes... but far from great, especially if youre a bokeh addict as I am ;)
3th, the 35/2 zeiss loxia is also E mount native lens.by 85 its obvious I mean a portrait prime, and those are normally fast...not 2.8 as the macro you mention, but 1.8 or (my personal hope) 1.4
dpreview shows its "profesionality"..only one week delayed news.