josseee: pity that those ones that don't care about the IBIS have to stand the extra weight caused by it...Anyway, for me personally the only thing that the original A7 was missing, is the A6000 style AF
ijustloveshooting...you stated it as some kind of an "absolute truth". Stating "A7ii is a huge leap over A7...PERIOD" is very absolutistic my friend. Not everybody agrees to your statements, actually many seems to disagree
ijustloveshooting, do you realize that I clearly stated my personal opinion? Why do you think that the things you consider important are a must for everyone?
pity that those ones that don't care about the IBIS have to stand the extra weight caused by it...Anyway, for me personally the only thing that the original A7 was missing, is the A6000 style AF
Horshack: Regarding the review comments "We also found the a7 II to have 1-2 stops worse ISO performance than an a7S or D750", here is a High ISO comparison I did between the A7, A7s, A7r, and Nikon Df, keeping in mind that the review indicates the A7II has the same noise performance as the A7 and that the D750 has slightly more noise than a Df:
yep, seeing the "1-2 stops difference" exaggeration made me giggle a bit... well, whatever...anyway I tend to agree on the dials ranting..theres a big step back in the dial placement for me personally
wow...a review one month after camera has been announced! Didnt see this fast response from dpreview in ages...Certainly would be nice if they could be so quick with all cameras
Randy Veeman: I am a bit shocked by the prices. My 85mm F/1.4 was $750. I am sure the argument is the Zeiss name and quality, but a lot of potential buyers are going to be shut out. These do very little for the NEX owners looking for $300-$800 lenses with wider apertures.
apsc 85/1.4 is a biiit different from FF 35/1.4how can you compare those?
nice review, gives u some hope that we will eventually get the A77 II review one day :D (almost a year old cam now)
aftab: I am sure this is a very capable camera and your video is testament to that. I would have loved to see how it performed with smaller moving subjects such as BIF. I was in Galapagos few months ago and was shooting with FZ1000 and 5DIII. I did much better for BIF with both of my cameras than my friend did with a6000. I don't mean to say that my experience is the final word on these cameras. May not be relevant here, but I find it interesting that Sony market share in Japan for mirrorless has fallen from over 40% to less than 30% in 2014.
the "fact" that you did better with the FZ1000 indicates that the problem might have been in your friends skills rather than his A6000 :)
Langusta: EOS 5DS RI own it 1I want it 23I had it 3
?That was quick ;)
those who had it already managed to sell it, so the "I own it" is expected to rise any minute :D
Mirrorlessplease: The lens focal lengths I am interested in are 1.4 50mm, 1.4 35mm, 1.4 24mm, 2.8, 17mm, 1.4 85mm, 2.8 100mm macro 1:1. Tilt shift 24/17mm. These can all be manual focused if it means they're as small as leica lenses. I want as small as possible lenses I can have for street photography. I know this is asking for a lot but there's no harm in mentioning what I'd like! Please don't suggest voigtlander, I hate the bokeh on those
well then look into voigtlander/zeiss ZM mount offerings...
DavidNJ100: The only review I've read of the A7 II (on Cinema 5D) was less than impressive.
The Nikon vote may be suffering because it is split. The D810 has an amazing sensor. The D750 is arguably the best value and fits nearly all the high end features (except 1/8000 sec shutter and 1/250 flash sync) in best high end DSLR chassis. What we need is the D820...the D810 sensor in a D750 body. With 4k video.
The Sony A7s was game changing. Many cinematographers need to keep one in their kit just to handle low light circumstances. Now that 4k video recorders are becoming available that can explode. The next step up is video RAW recording which costs at least 3x as much, and usually 4x-5x as much.
That said all of these will pale compared to 2016's or 2017's cameras: 42Mp with 4k video from binning, 4:2:2 10-bit video out, EVF or maybe even enhanced OVF/EVF switchable viewfinder, flip screens, WiFi, etc.
really? cause I dont see ANY review on the A7 II @ cinema 5D. Perhaps you could provide us with a link? (my guess is that you confused A7 with A77 :D )However, before posting such an ignorant-smelly post, you should try to google out some real reviews, Im sure youll find something ;) Just an example follows here...http://www.stevehuffphoto.com/2014/12/27/the-sony-a7ii-real-world-camera-review-my-camera-of-the-year-2014/
nand: No need to vote. From DPR's statistics above, it show that the Fuji X-T1 is going to be the winner. It shows 856 people own it and 669 want it. That tops all the other ones.
well for sure it wins in these "metrics"...since its been around for almost a full year. D750 and A7II have been out for a couple of weeks/days respectively ;)
raally? the otus 85/1.4 is missing??? the best rated lens out there??
josseee: A77 II honorabled....where the hell is the review when you honor it so much, dear preview? Its been half a year since the damn thing came out!!! The same with a7s... this web is sinking
and that is the point...dpreview is not helpful with the purchase anymore...
@pheanix300where exactly am I crying and saying something about dpr hating sony?? Im pointing out the ridiculousness of this "roundup"!! Im also mentioning the A7s, but because Im personally interested in buying this cam, not because its a sony. I remember that they started some experimental ridiculous comparison review GH4 vs A7s. After a while they realised how stupid comparison it is..and abandoned the idea. GH4 got its review a month ago, but the a7s...well...guess they lost the damn thing somewhere.. or whatever :D
amit patnaik: they published without testing the Sony and Canon? Nikon paid them.
Read 7. Which enthusiast dslr should I buy?
@Rishiyes, we know...been 6 months since the cam is out, we all hope that within 4-5 months you will manage to "finish" the review :D
A77 II honorabled....where the hell is the review when you honor it so much, dear preview? Its been half a year since the damn thing came out!!! The same with a7s... this web is sinking
Frank C.: it's a sony
no envy..its called canikon snobbism ;)
josseee: did you use an inferior lens on the GH4 for the comparison tool? Compared to the sony, the RAWS look like mud (even on pictures with 3 EV difference)
in that case it would be better as a dedicated videocamera :) the stills are really dreadful these 2 cams really deserve their wn review...not a comparison one :(
did you use an inferior lens on the GH4 for the comparison tool? Compared to the sony, the RAWS look like mud (even on pictures with 3 EV difference)