Say NO! to CC.
I like picture 19 the best, the one with the women with the very large breasts.
If we start using subscription based software then you are supporting a very scary future. Every company is lurking to see if Adobe succeeds or fails with their CC. It is us(!) users who control the success or failure of such a system. We will all fall into a system in where we have to pay money on a monthly basis and the software companies can raise the costs at free will. Be aware, this future can ONLY happen if we are accepting subscription based agreements.
BobORama: I want to know HOW they cut them in half. I've done this on a small scale for metallurgical specimen preparation. Same thing just bigger?
They do it with an old rusty saw.
Dames01: Wonderful artwork!
I hope all the trolly geeks out there will refrain from posting their usual rants about how irrelevant this is to them...
This is irrelevant.
jadot: Lots of people stamping their feet here. It's easy to see that a percentage of those people are just upset because it's getting harder to keep cracked versions up to date.
The truth is that in a competitive market using the latest software (in this case CC with current updates) can give you a competitive edge.
If you're happy with CS6 or below, then why are you complaining about CC? If it was CS7 you'd complain about the cost of "buying" it and how Adobe force you to buy updates every 18 months. Depending on how you want to use the software, it could actually cost you more to "own" the software every two years. If you don't need the latest features, then you'll probably be alright using Photoshop Express - buy that.
Meanwhile for probably less than what you spend on chocolate in 1 week, professionals are using CC with all the latest updates, spending less time worrying about Adobe's plans for armegeddon, and less time eating chocolate.
The money you pay for CC now is not going to last. It will be very expensive chocolate for you my friend, be sure of that. Mind you, I have invested for MANY years into Photoshop, and Adobe couldn't be Adobe if it where not for customers like me. Now, they are taking the Mickey with me, as they only option for me left to use their stuff is to pay them money each month or else I will not be able to use their stuff anymore. If that's what you get after 17 years of investing they can keep their tiny little teeny-weenie updates and I'll be looking at an alternative, as I have a talent, and my talent does not depend on a program, like Photoshop.
This update does not make any sense. WHO ON EARTH is going to use a 3D-printing option from inside Photoshop? If you are, like me, into 3D-printing, you are using 3D software for that, NOT a 2D photo-retouching application!! It sounds so sophisticated, "hey look- Photoshop can do 3D-printing too"! Yeah, prehistoric simple objects like a coke-can, that's what we print all the time.. It shows that, again, Adobe makes pointless updates on a product that has been finished years ago, and now it's milking it's users money with their Cloud. Who wants to be part of that? I'll keep working with CS5 for as long as I like it, then jump towards the competition.
(btw, I am a professional Photoshop user for more than 17 years).
Darn, I like it. All the negative comments, I don't get it. This is a resurrection of an authentic lens that takes images with that 19th century nostalgic 'look'. It gives me wet collodion dreams.
Bob Meyer: I have to laugh at all the criticism of Adobe. If you don't like it, don't sign up. Nobody is holding a gun to your head.
I have to laugh at those people who say it's "wrong," especially those who tell me what is good for me. It's neither right nor wrong. It's a business decision. If it generates more income for Adobe it's "right" for the company and it's shareholders. Adobe isn't in business to make you happy; it's in business to make money. And what's "right or wrong" for you doesn't matter to me; I'll make up my own mind, thank you.
The only real problem I have with this deal is that it's bait and switch. After 1 year Adobe jacks the price back up to their normal rate, anf you're screwed.
Adobe WAS in business to make it's customers happy. Now they are in business to make mountains of money at the expense of it's customers. This is the beginning of the end of the glorious days of PS, a product I supported for more than 16 years.
wireless: I don't get the thing about renting vs. buying. You end up with the same functionality at the same cost if you do regular upgrades. If you own property you must pay taxes on it, or the government will retrieve it back from you. That's a kind of renting. For the price of two Starbucks coffees a month I get $800 worth of software.
The BIG difference about renting vs buying is that I decide when I want to upgrade or not. I pay for the software and if I want to work with CS5 for 5 years, that's my choice. With renting, Adobe's hand is in your pocket, and it's pay time every month, if you want to upgrade or not. And if not, then you can't use their software. Do you still like the CC concept?
srados: "Adobe", what a person should do if his/hers computer IS NOT 24/7 connected to internet?I have my workhorse AWAY from viruses and other garbage. Keeping me disconnected saves me money in antivirus software...By the way I am boycotting subscription based software.Still happy with my CS 5...and yes when I can not install it on my new version of operating system software I will look up Corell line of products.
@venturStay away from porn sites.. Yeah, that's what most of us do.
taojones: I like it I have a behance site now which was due for payment so I get a year of free PS and LR. Jeezus it is only the price of two coffees, are all you guys living in a third world country...
Nothing is free in this world, and you can count on it this is very strategic and tactic move from Adobe. Let's see in three years from now if you can still can buy two coffees from the price you have to pay to use this software… That is, if Adobe CC survives that long..
SemperAugustus: If you are making money from your images $10 a month is reasonable, but if you are a hobbyist, amateur or just enthusiast, then IMHO is best to invest in another SW e.g. Corel Paint Shop Pro or even PSE For a photographer, LR is probably 90% of what you ever going to need, specially if you add some plugins like Nik Collection and Perfect Effects. They have the ability to add layers and blending. They also have some masks (not as powerful as PS) but adequate in most cases. Trying CC and cancelling is not a realistic option, PS is not something that you learn overnight, it does take years. So when you cancel your sub, not only you are left with no SW, you are letting go many man-days of effort and learning. Why not put that effort into some other SW.... Corel PSP has layers, masks, blending modes, selections, etc.... you could use LR for ACR and then trigger Corel PSP for a single image editing.
This is not about what is reasonable to pay each month. I am using PS professional, I make a living using PS, and yet I will never go for the Cloud option. It's not the money, it's the Cloud. If my CS5 wears out after a few years from now I'll go to the competition. By that time Pixelmator will most likely be on the same level, or Paint Shop Pro, whatever is available, I will avoid at all costs a system that forces me to pay money each month to rent a creative tool. I want to be free, and no software, how good it might be is ever going to take away my freedom. Screw them and their Cloud, we don't need them. They need us.
I have €250 waiting for you Adobe, but only if I can buy the latest PS upgrade and own a copy of it. Not even a cent I will pay for your Cloud. Not even if it was for free.
Even Apple has said bye-bye to Abode, for instance check the new Mac Pro on their site, the “Performance” is now measured with 'Pixelmator' (!) instead of Photoshop: http://www.apple.com/mac-pro/performance/
I started working with version 3, somewhere in the 90ties. Al these years I have invested in PS until it became a CEO-corrupted company trying to seduce people into their money-pit Cloud-system. How beautiful things can become so ugly.
Say NO(!) to cloud.
The 808 looks better..
Which type of Panasonic camera is this?