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The one of the dog drinking in the lake is really great.
Does Android allow for full manual camera controls? (shutter speed, aperture, ISO)? Or perhaps real RAW capture?
snegron2: The body style resembles the old Leica R8/R9. I wonder if Panasonic was going for that look intentionally?
I like it! Even if they didn't start with that purpose in mind, I'm sure they realized it at one point and may have deliberately moved in that direction. I think the Leica R8/9 look great.
LOL, when I read the headline I was already imagining a "Violators will get their asses kicked" warning...
Not only will you get a black eye, but you probably end up with a broken $1500 toy.
This 'dRAW TIFF' stuff is pretty ridiculous IMO. You get the huge size of RAW files with essentially none of the benefits.
JPEG compression is a minimal factor in image quality degradation.
I was hoping for more from the 920 camera, the results seem worse than the iPhone 4S. The 4S has slower lens and no IS, but the 920 images are way too processed.
Marvol: A lot of 'glass half empty' people here on the forums, blimey :S.
One point to note, if you include a grip, flipout tilt swivel rotating screen, EVF and OVF and hybrid VF... wouldn't you just end up with a small DSLR without interchangeable lenses? Yes, you would. And would the camera be even more expensive? Of course it would. And then all of you lot would be complaining about that. Get over yourselves.
As it is, Sony (of course) left all these things off to keep the camera as small as possible while still carrying a FF sensor. It is a statement of intent. Judge it as that. It's like looking at the McLaren road car and going "there's no boot" "my kids don't fit in the back" "the suspension is too hard" "for 1M I would expect adjustable seats". Apples, oranges.
Yeah, but does it have apps??? ;-)
Lightpath48: I would love to be able to afford something like the RX1. But it's really priced beyond my sanity.
It's even priced beyond my insanity.
It will have a red apple instead of a red dot.
Paul Guba: How short sighted leadership that lacks vision can destroy a company. Kodak pretty much owned the imaging business. They developed much of the digital technology we use now. However they saw digital as threat to traditional market of film and so stifled their own move towards it. It wasn't expediently profitable to move towards digital. Short term they made their profits but eventually it killed them. First digital camera I owned was a Kodak 460N.
I don't believe they stifled their own move to digital. They apparently foresaw the digital future, but even then weren't able to keep up with companies that were simply better positioned to take advantage of the coming digital world:
http://www.slideshare.net/Christiansandstrom/kodak-destruction
The Sony took everyone by surprise, this one honestly would have been a very nice update pre-RX100. Actually, if this would have been the P7100, then they could have really done something with the 3rd gen. Instead, the P7100 mainly corrected the problems with the P7000.
The short registration distance doesn't make it hard to design lenses, any more than a longer registration distance. The lens elements can be as far away from the sensor as the designer wants, the registration distance only governs the distance of the mount from the sensor, correct?
Jogger: Kodak and Fuji. The two dominant companies in consumer film; couldnt be any more different today.
Fuji had it's electronics manufacturing to fall back on, I think that's the big difference between the 2. The consumer electronics companies were the ones best suited to dominate digital photography, not chemical companies.
Keith Lommel: It's obvious they're using the 19/2.8 and 30/2.8 which they're also marketing for m43 and NEX.
Looking at the dimensions, it doesn't seem the lenses are very deeply integrated into the body... Seems they could have engineered some kind of lens mount so you could swap one for the other without increasing size that much. That might have made for a much more exciting product, rather than forcing foveon fans to pick one and only one focal length, or buy two (likely very expensive) cameras.
Or better yet, put a NEX mount on there. I'm sure a lot more people would try such a camera if they could add it to an existing system and feel like their lenses could be reused on future bodies...
If they're going to be doing other mounts, I'd rather them do a Micro 4/3 Foveon camera...
If they have good image quality and reasonable price, they should sell well on NEX mount. But performance is going to have to be really good to compete with existing Micro 4/3 lenses (I'm thinking mainly of the Panasonic 14mm, 20mm, and 25mm lenses.) I think these were primarily designed with NEX in mind, and then adding the Micro 4/3 mount to generate some additional sales and exposure.