shaocaholica: Look at the size of the T mount. It could easily accommodate a FF sensor.
An AF FF leica. Compact(ish).
Thats a revolution they might not be interested in.
They are not funded as heavily as the Japanese giants - and rely on a core market of MF-afficionados.
But I can't fault your logic here. Sony did it.
If Leica does excactly that they'll be sure to price it out of reach of many (if not most). They'll have to recoup the R&D cost on a limited production run.
lighthunter80: Damn... now I want one :)Just the body and the 23/2.0 would be enough. Or shall I better get the Fuji X-E2 and the 23/1.4 ?
Badi. How can you - so matter-of-factly - state that the Fuji has superior IQ ? Considering the quality of the X-vario lens I still put Leica ahead of Fuji. Especially if you stick to adobe software. In prime lens territory Leica is king. Now they make excellent zooms for ASP-C sized sensors as well.
Fact is - you have no idea. Stop "mentoring" or passing on "knowledge" if you're going to be so biased about it.
The Fuji is affordable and very capable. I own a Fuji X camera and zero Leicas. But I'm not going to kid myself.
Peiasdf: JVC is owned by Panasonic so this is just a badge engineered Panasonic camera. Next thing you know, Sanyo would join m4/3 because it is also owned by Panasonic.
And how typically non-american to state that as a general, American problem.
Zeisschen: With the a6000 news just prior to this, it's hard to believe both product pictures are made in the same year 2014. Compared to the modern Sony design this camera just looks like a cheap plastic tool from the 90s.
*chen* implies you're German. I just visited Berlin - out of 100's of cameras on display only ONE - yes ONE - was sporting a M43. The rest were DSLRs or small compacts.
What are you talking about?
Cane: The fact that you need a grip in the first place shows the design fail of this style of camera. The past isn't always as great as old people remember it. Did Fuji just realize hands aren't rectangles?
I've just returned home from shooting 400 frames with an X100 (gripless). Not once did it slip, nor did I feel I needed one...
Forpetessake & Cane... What on earth are you talking about? Bad ergonomics? Makes me doubt that you've ever touched an x-series body.
The lightness of the camera allows you to hold it firmly just by gently squeezing your fingers on the body. YMMW if you're using it with a 55-200, in which case I'd reach for a grip.
Sorry mates - the X-series are ergonomical wonders. Essentially fatigue-free.
Northgrove: Beach 2014, here I come!
Sergey Borachev: I love it!
Canon and Nikon continue to waste time and let others have a bigger lead as the world turn mirrorless. This is great for competition. Thank you, Canon.
"as the world turns mirrorless"
Do you honestly think restating false information will make it so?
Not happened yet. Not happening anytime soon.
DigiMatt: Are you guys incapable of reading the English language? You don't have to agree with the way DXO scores, but they did clearly state the reason they knocked the score down. That reason is: not being sharp wide open and not being sharp across the frame until f11. How do you people make it through life without a basic reading comprehension ability?
"On the downside, sharpness is low at full-aperture and isn’t uniform across the frame until its stopped to f11. At larger apertures there’s as much as 30% deviation in sharpness from the center to corners."
"Individually the new Nikkor has the higher sharpness overall but the current 50mm is sharper at full aperture, while both are sharper than the AF-D model.
Stopped down to f2.8 and the new Nikkor is sharper in the centers than either but the outer field, edges and corners are similar to the old AF-D model and someway behind the current 50mm model until f11, where the new 58mm has high sharpness from corner-to-corner."
I'm guessing a lot of people have a hard time reading the MTF-lines.
Guys - the left most point shows center resolution. The right one shows the extreme corners. Only by stopping down to f.8 does the MTF in corners reach 1500.
Not particularly impressive considering the price point.
David Ziff: I had opportunity to use (borrow, not own) the original X100 and loved the look and feel of the camera. However objectively it only scores 73 on the DXO Mark sensor tests. That's the same as my Nikon D90 from three years ago. The X100 low light ISO score is 1001 whereas the 5D Mark III is up around 2390 and the D800 around 2923. I'm not suggesting science should diminish anyone's love for a camera as that's a personal thing. The camera I'm fondest of was the old 2.8 medium format Rolleiflex twin-lens reflex. Objective sensor ratings might only be one factor in a person's photographic preference. May I ask my fellow readers here if sensor ratings -- whether from Popular Photography or DXO Mark or ? -- have a bearing in evaluating your next camera purchase
I have an X100. It's not quite there in terms of pure resolution but there is a very distinct look about the files, which lends itself perfectly to event shooting. Especially wide open at 2.0. I shoot for personal uses - PM if you'd like an example.
I really never use DxO mark. I'm a strong believer of the fact that any modern camera is more than up to most tasks.
DxO might work for pure resolution seekers. I'm not one of them. I have 2x 16mp cameras, one more on the way. All three with different sensor formats. More than enough, as most pics are posted on websites.
And I simply do not understand why the d800 trumphs eg a Leica S. Doesn't correspond to what I actually see.
Trust me - you would love the X100 even with that score.
SnapHappy32: The next US residing poster who complains about the 3.000 price tag should visit my neck of the woods. Nikons official pricing is close to 4.800 USD incl. VAT. Ex VAT there is still a difference of 600 USD.
Freak off. The A7 including kit lens is priced at 2.700.
The D600 however is now down to 2.000 USD, even AFTER the introduction of the D610.
Shut it - seriously.Or get a new hobby. If you can't afford that - pick up knitting.
I'm sorry for the rude rant, but it really p*'s me of. You guys are much better of price wise.
How nice. Here its priced at 760 USD.You don't get the point, do you?
Everything is priced way above the quoted US prices. There is no reason why it (ex VAT) should cost more in Europe.
The next US residing poster who complains about the 3.000 price tag should visit my neck of the woods. Nikons official pricing is close to 4.800 USD incl. VAT. Ex VAT there is still a difference of 600 USD.
mark25: The Nikon Df catalog says:
"Free from haste and competition, I become my true creative self again, choosing unhurried inspiration over the frantic rush of speed and efficiency."
i think this is what best describes the camera design philosophy. it is a camera for those who are not in a hurry - those who take their time making pictures and those who don't always feel 'compelled' to bring home a load of pictures on their 16GB memory card :)
for those who like to be modern, fast and 'in', then there is the D610 or the D800 for them :)
Sigma DP1, DP2 and DP3 are slow performing cameras but those who use them, don't complain why the other cameras from Canon/Fuji/Nikon are so fast... they know what their photographic needs are, what their camera is capable of, and more importantly, what they as photographers are capable of, and hence, no complains :)
i like this design and believe it is going to make a terrific imaging tool! (in the right hands, that is!)
mark25 - I, myself, decide the speed of the shooting process.No camera design is going to change that.
Last year in Berlin, an approx 65 year-old gentleman in the Berlin Zoo was carrying a D4 & what looked like a gitzo tripod.
He set up - but didn't trip the shutter once during the 15 minutes I was looking. He was staring at the sky for the entire duration, and simply packed his stuff and left after said time.
Don't know what he was waiting for. He didn't get it.
A camera does not magically make you see things more slowly.
On the contrary - having the ability to set up a lot of the main exposure settings with the camera off seems like a means of improved speed.
samhain: I was really hoping for some sort of manual focusing aid, split focus, focus peaking, something to assist, given this is aimed squarely at folks with manual lenses.In the article, it says Nikon spent 4 years making this camera. I find it hard to believe they couldn't come up with some sort of innovative manual focusing assist, whether built in or attachment.
I second that. I was lead to believe that the VF would be larger and include MF-assist. I was naive. I'm guessing Liveview magnified works as "well" as on other Nikons, which is to say very poor.
That's a bummer. Not a dealbreaker (same issue with all other Nikon FF DSLRS).
Regueira Photo and Film: Esta nueva DF me parece una gran falla de Nikon, ya que si bien es mucho mas cara que la nueva D610 (o la 6D de Canon), tiene menor prestaciones y ergonomia. Eso sin hablar de la falta de video, GPS o Wifi incluidos.
Se ve a la vista que lo Ingenieros de Nikon no vieron jamas las Leica "M", unas esquisitas compactas de lentes intercambiables de sensor completo, muy comodas de usar, pero dirigidas a un nicho de alto poder adquisitivo. Y lamentablemente se perdieron la oportunidad de utilizar su vasta experiencia y recursos en diseñar un modelo similar para las masas.
El simple hecho de que se puedan utilizar lentes antiguos o su apariencia y segmentacion de mercado, no creo que la conviertan en el suceso que la Nipona esta necesitando para sanar sus problemas con el declinante mercado de las reflex digitales.
Thanks man. Here's a finish cupcake recipe. Makes about as much sense to me as you using spanish on an english website. Im not a native english speaker either
OhjeetValmista ensin muffinssit. Sulata voi ja anna sen jäähtyä. Vatkaa kananmunat ja sokeri kuohkeaksi vaahdoksi. Sekoita kuivat aineet keskenään. Lisää muna-sokerivaahtoon vuorotellen sulaa rasvaa, maitoa ja jauhoseosta. Sekoita taikina varovaisesti tasaiseksi. Annostele taikina muffinivuokiin ja paista 175 asteessa noin 15 minuuttia. Anna muffineiden jäähtyä ja valmista sillä aikaa kuorrute.
Vatkaa vispikerma vaniljasokerin kanssa kevyeksi vaahdoksi. Jaa kerma kahteen osaan. Sekoita toiseen kaakaojauhe ja toiseen vihreä elintarvikeväri sekä piparminttuaromi. Vatkaa kumpaakin kermaa vielä pieni hetki. Laita kaakaokermaa pursotinpussiin ja pursota sillä toisen pursotinpussin sivulle paksu ja pitkä viiva. Lisää tähän pursotinpussiin vihreää kermaa varoen kaakaokerman viereen. Pursota jäähtyneet cupcake-leivokset kuorrutteella.
jacek2008: What for is that big knob on the front of the camera?
I think you're spot on Per. Must be aperture control.
D1N0: People who use lenses without an aperture ring on this camera should loose their license :p
That one had me LOLling. Crisp one, D1NO.
SnapHappy32: Just saw the images on NR.
Having held of buying a FF twice during the last year - this is it.This is the one.
I shoot events a lot (indoor). I have the savings (if the 3.000 k.USD price is correct) in place. I just need to pair this with the new Noct if it indeed has the D4 sensor.
This is it. I've never been this excited about a camera release. I don't care for its faux-retro looks or size. But I've never been this ready to preorder anything.
Cfynn. You're absolutely right.
AFAIK the Sonnar is not corrected explictly for coma. The nikon is not a resolution monster for me - just a lens that accentuates the rigth things for me. I shoot concerts. Flare and coma are nuisances.
Then again, Im an open-minded person. I'll reserve judgement for actual comparisons. Im not married to Nikon.
Thanks for setting the record straigth.
HawaiiVolcanoes: and...why.....would i want/need this thing?
Why... would.... we....give....a.....f......?
Digitall: Almost the same specs as D610, but almost twice the price, ok. The retro style is expensive.But it's a good marketing move from Nikon. "The gods must be crazy" Part II.
Almost? Ah then all is well
Dear Buffallo Bills. All is well. You almost won the Superbowl five times.