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kemal erdogan: The Fuji site says that the 12MP sensor use the same technology as XPRO1 and X100S.
it is likely that the sensor is exactly the same APS-C sensor used in the X100S.
I come to this conclusion by the fact the X20 supports all of 9/16, 2/3, 3/4, 1/1 aspect ratios, which implies that the sensor is at least as large as the diameter of the image circle both in height and width.
Least costly option to achieve this is just to use a bit bigger sensor and I think Fuji took that path. Lower pixel count is also consistent with that possibility.
And, I am thrilled at the possibility of having the low light capabilities of Xpro1 in such a small camera
Sorry, you are confusing me. How exactly can the 2/3 sensor of the X20 be the same as the APS-C sensor in the X100s? The size isn't even close. Maybe they are using the same techonology, processing, whatever but I don't think it is possible to have the same sensor.
SH Photo: Any idea what the bit-rate is for the video?
I was wondering that myself. The X20 is 36 Mbps but I don't think this one will be that good...different sensor and processor. If it is at least up to 24 o r28 then it might be decent.
Is that bartender dressed as a boyscout?
pascal b: is it an example supposed to be good from this new "beast" associated with such an expensive lens ???
nothing is crisp !
or did I miss something ?
Have a look at the first photo of the girl's face and tell me there is any detail lacking in her right eye. It's pretty remarkable.
This image really speaks to me :-)
Considering they are all going to be connected in probably the very near future, why do they need a special name at all?
Its just another function on the camera.
WiFi enabled
App enabled
GPS enabled
just functions or specs.
I do like CAMOphone from below though :-)
tkbslc: "In the field of digital cameras, we will seek to achieve collaboration in a manner that further improves the competitiveness of the two companies."
Considering that NEX and m4/3 directly compete, I wonder what that means.
It would be nice if it meant a Sony NEX with a respectable kit lens like the ones Olympus usually puts together.
jquagga: I think many folks give you guys/gals way too much grief on what you do and I try to be positive. However you did ask for feedback so, I'm sorry in advance!
I think this moves the ball the wrong directly. "Community-based moderation" will be abuse city. Trolling, fanboyism - if you're going to enable this I'd like the option to completely disable it. i.e., I want to view the forums without the moderation at all. I don't care a troll mod'ed something down. I want to see it.
Blue on black is harder to read than yellow on black. At least there is the option to revert. Can we make that part of my default profile so I'm always reverted?
Where's the mobile layout or tapatalk integration? That's one of the major limitations of the current layout.
As others have said, why aren't you moving to something standard? Why not leverage work others have done and implement a modern forum system many already use?
Why not ask for input before pouring months of work in?
The font size should be changed within your browser settings. It isn't something that can be set at their end and affect every different browser that reads it.
Just make the change within your own settings.
So we all know that the most important elements with regards to IQ are the sensor and the lens... and both of those are exactly what you can get with the NEX 7 (they even admit to NOT tweaking the Sony sensor)...heck, you can get a pretty good combo with the F3, 5R or the 6, for that matter.
I think they are totally out of touch with reality.
Sad thing is they will definitely sell a few of them and declare it a great success.
peevee1: "In addition to superior still image quality, the 1080p Full HD Movie capability with stereo sound captures movies in the best quality currently available in compact cameras. "
That is simple not true. Looks like the press-release was written before RX100 either. Another era, simpler times... :)
Poor shmucks caught with their pants down...
In Marketing Speak anything that produces full HD 1080 p would be considered the "best quality currently available". It's based on the spec...not the actual video that comes out of that camera.
Unfortunately if the video is anything like what the XZ-1 produced it will be crap... at least in comparison to any of the Sony models.
qwertyasdf: When P&S and camera phones are moving on to larger sensors
Someday, the Q might have the smallest sensor not just amongst other CSCs, but all photo-taking gadgets....
Way to go.
@ Edgar Matias
Actually Panasonic DOES sell a similar lens that actually has a range of 25 mm to 600 mm (equiv) constant f 2.8 and I think it sells for around $599 as part of the FZ200. Same size sensor...
I think the Q series are definitely cute but I wish people would put some perspective on what they are getting. It is definitely a niche market and a fun camera to play with but it doesn't miraculously do things that other similarly sized and speced cameras don't do at a lower price...and maybe those cameras are a load of fun for some people too.
sdyue: Finally a flexible screen that has Face-FORWARD utility topside and works while on a tripod... (rather than bottom side which doesn't work with a tripod)
now all they need to do is offer a flexible vari-angle swivel screen, VASS, like Canon PowerShots... and Sony CyberShot DSC-R1
given the NEX is a very small-form factor... such a VASS would make more sense on larger alpha-SLT models instead (which all currently STILL lack full flexibility, just up/down tilt only or flexible, but stuck 'bottom-side' (SLT-A65)).
however, given NEX are close to most digicams in size... a VASS isn't that unreasonalbe (PowerShot G series... Samsung TL500 (EX1) to mention a couple)
@ TrojMacReady
Please show me a NEX 3 that has an LCD with face-forward utility.
sdyue is wrong in stating that this camera is the first to have it but the NEX 3, 5, C3, 5N definitely don't have it. I believe the first NEX with the flip up LCD was the F3.
I'm all for technology and I think that this little camera phone is a good achievement but I really can't say I am impressed by the images it produces.
The higher ISO images are not bad...they are terrible.
Low ISO shots are definitely acceptable...especially considering the amount of detail you can get with that many MP but the colors don't look very accurate and WB looks to be an issue in anything but bright sunlight.
I am just amazed that some are comparing detail against something like the D800. We need to get some perspective on exactly what this camera/phone can produce.
Jan Toude: Grass is smeared. It's Sony...
Shoot RAW then :-)
zeev a: when i wrote this words last time " I was looking forward to see an f2.0 lens and 6x zoom in this class of camera .if canon can make it on s100 why not here ?" on the canon GX1, I get an anser that is not possible and now came sony and make smaller camera with an F1.8 lens .so it can be done . well done sony .
Canon should have been able to do better, size wise, but this Sony sensor is still considerably smaller than the one in the Canon G1X.
However, I expect that the Sony will do very well in comparison.
Kodachrome200: I wanna love these mirrorless camera's but they always seem to miss the mark by a bit. With an aps-c sensor physics is going to require that the lenses are essentially dslr sized. this makes the camera only marginally more portable.
The micro 4/3rds seems to be the right balance. but there are still some wierd issues. Like the fact that you can't get a thin profile standard prime for it. witch oddly enough you can for the large 4/3rds cameras. And dont say use an adapter, the is too big. Also the only 4/3rds camera that is reasonably small and acceptably powerfull is the olympus e-pl3. witch comes with a kit zoom that is not pocket sized. and you CANT buy it without it. (witch makes me ask what about upgraders?). I like that panasonic pancake zoom lens. combined with a small standard prime that was also pocket sized you could have a lot of photo power in your pocket.
This new sony is massive in the world of camera thats only justification is they are more portable though.
@thx1138... a heck of a lot more DOF control then the m 4/3 kit lenses with the same specs.
I held off on the 5n for a long time and I am still using m 4/3 along side it but the 5n sensor really is incredible and working with legacy lenses is a dream.
You gotta love the marketing BS they come up with... "Durability Unites with DSLR-Image Quality".
If my DSLR was only as good as this 1/2.3" sensor I would be suing its manufacturer.
Why do we put up with the BS marketing?
gulffish: I don't see this as a win for Fuji. The new sensor's overall IQ is inferior to the original sensor. I'd keep the old!
How would you know that? Have you tested a camera with the new sensor? I only see one image to make that judgement on.
It's just awful. Is there another 'final' version of that dog photo? It doesn't look like bokeh at all. It looks like smudges. Lens bokeh doesn't smudge the background. Sorry, I just don't get it. It certainly doesn't look any better than Fuji's Pro Focus mode or Sony's version on their point & shoots...it usually just doesn't look realistic. Just like this.
nofumble: I want this iPad apps ASAP to make DSLR people envy.
Actually its the iPhone 4S that has the great video. It's not a 5D Mk III but if you look at the comparisons on YouTube and Vimeo you will see that the quality of the output is very similar...just don't expect to pull focus or get decent image stabilization.