PENTAX AND NOT THE OTHER
winkalman: For those lamenting the lack of a built in flash, why not just go with a small hotshoe flash that offers higher output and bounce capabilities like Metz's mecablitz 26 AF-1?
Like to here Pentax announces new small flash which can works as commander.
SimenO1: Why dont they just settle for one of the names. Samyang, Rokinon, Phoenix, Bower .. ?
There are several companies that want their name exist without do anything other than to create perception of protection if they bought locally.
Samyang should offer fl 200 mm 2.8 macro lens. Not this lens, otherwise this lenses performs better than similar lens on the market today.
CameraLabTester: Tsk tsk tsk....
Nikon, Nikon, Nikon....
You still haven't FIRED and kicked out your industrial designers, huh?
THEY are the ones killing you... not lack of customers.
Customers want to buy your cameras, loyal customers...
But if you keep on using body designers who have no vision and creativity... then it's your call.
So sadly , it looks like just copying from other camera models without careful thought ....... or maybe " J " stands for " Joke "
Nice looking camera, but why this new model still maintain its tiny sensor? Is there any revolutionary in sensor technology? I thought the new small " standard" size sensor for a camera is 1". Smaller than that has been eaten by smartphone....
ewelch: No. 8 is just bad. Horrid composition. Crop it!
There are a few that are just killer. The winner's photo reminds me of the work of Canadian photographer Freeman Patterson.
No 8 is so unique and unusual that make it become prominent.
jukeboxjohnnie: or you can just go buy a canon 6d at a bargain price now.....
Yes, but bargain prize for the body only and need huge investment for the lenses.
KL Matt: Dream come true. But why is the 35 in Pentax mount, but the 24 isn't????
Should be a better market for fl 24mm on Pentax mount ? Pentax also have, but old manual lens on this fl. Pentax AF star model is expensive n hard to find. Many of Pentax shooter still rely on old Sigma AF model.
Provia_fan: The 2001 model is a beautiful MZ-S adapted to digital. Love the old MZ-S. This new Pentax looks a little like a Sony A900. But anyways, well done Pentax, hope this comes true this time around.
I also got the same impression with the "giant" prism looks at the camera. Model design as seen in the Pentax K5 looks much better, simpler and look never last. Yach, maybe they would like to state that the prism is the "signature" of its icons. Just seems too naive ........
Mr Darma: It says DSLR so hopefully it will not be mirrorless. I have a complete set of 1975-1976 issue K mount lenses (not counting zooms) which were introduced with the K series cameras (24 in all). It took me 12 years to get them all and yes, some were pretty expensive. Finally I will reap my reward if this is true! :-)
Pentax name is derived from prism. Other camera brand that use from the same word was Pentacon. Unfortunately, this camera product has vanished. So, prism is the "signature" for pentax camera, but this technology has gradually change with the introduction of mirrorless camera. See objects through lens without the use of prism is getting better this day. Refering this trend and its advantages, the use of prism on camera will be superseded.
gLOWx: You want small body AND lenses ?That's why i gone m43 sensor, and don't regret it a bit ;)
You can't get all. If you choose APS-C, you will get equivalent lens size/weight, mirrorless or not. Because mirroless change mounting flange distance, nothing else. Mirrorless has strictly no impact in lens design size/weight over reflex.When you get very small APS-C lenses,it is because they have reduced aperture (f4 vs f 2.8) or reduced quality (like sliding storage position).
Here, we have a constant f2.8 zoom quality lens. It can't be smallerI even find it very small for those specs ;)If real world quality follow the specs, it is an amazing lens for a very small size.
You want smaller ? Go m43, it is the only other way i see.Chasing small lenses on big sensors is not logical, until you limit your choice to pancake lenses or fixed small focal length (like an X100) :D
Not sure can be small for fast zoom tele lens on m43?
AlanVia: First reaction looking at them as a group and individually, lenses look huge....
And the small size (compact) body become less relevant......
Andy Dan: Stupid launch imo. The Sigma 17-70 f2.8-4 Contemporary Macro sells for 500$ and it's faster and has macro capabilities. It lacks weather sealing indeed but who needs weather sealing in a slow variable aperture zoom like this new Pentax? Pro's won't use it, enthusiasts won't use it...A new version of the DA 17-70mm F4 AL would have been much better...
I never use Sigma 17-70 2.8-4 "C" version but the model before it. Mine has same characteristic performance on edges (softness & high CA) with the one that reviewed by Lenstip.com.
Old model (w/ same spec?)http://www.lenstip.com/index.html?test=obiektywu&test_ob=223
And here the "C" version http://www.lenstip.com/index.html?test=obiektywu&test_ob=366
Pls. check also on the actual pictures that taken on field. The Pentax DA 17-70 is not as good as the Sigma on the center but much more even on the whole frame. So, it is much more useful for general purpose lens that cover many situation of photography.
Now, I still have the Pentax DA 17-70 but forced not to use it. Its SDM fail! That is why I need replacement and sincerely hope this new lens offers can meet user expectations.
NiallM: sorry but at f/3.5 it's not worth giving up the constant f/2.8 on my main walkabout, Tamron 17-50mm, as good as anything else and better than the Pentax 16-50mm. I don't live in a sunny bright part of the world so lens speed is kinda important for me. Absolutely PERFECT focal range, 16-85, but alas, too slow.
You are lucky to have Tamron 17-50 which gives consistent results. Mine is not work properly although has tried twice of the same lens. Finally landing with Sigma 17-50 2.8 HSM. Not so sharp @ f2.8 (fl50), but this lens serve better than my Tamron.
Sigma 17-70 2.8-4 is not suit for general purpose lens, its edges performance is weak. I will consider this lens, if this lens in par or better than Nikon equivalent offer.
Piggy the bad: Pentax 16-85 3.5/5.6 £599Pentax 18-135 3.5/5.6 £379Both WR . Not convinced the extra 2mm @ wide angle 24mm equiv to 27mm equiv is worth the extra £220
We have to check its performance whether can deliver even sharpness on the whole frames or not. The Pentax 18-135 exhibit bad performance on the edges.
LensBeginner: Am I the only one to find the design very similar to that of the Pentax Limiteds?
It is more to Leica lens
princewolf: I rate the first picture +18.
Who or What?
This Lumix looks more camera with smartphone capabilities than the otherwise.