onlooker: First of all, I disagree that diffused light is to blame. Diffused light can produce some of the most beautiful photographs. Alas, these images lack smoothness and richness I was hoping to see. I hope it's just lousy built-in jpeg processing, but even with that, I am not impressed by the lens.
That's a pity because I was really intrigued by RX10, and outside of the price, I thought it was a very desirable camera. Let's wait for raws.
Strange. My RX100 jpegs are much richer than these. Ooh we, what up with that?
CM WORKS: I'm waiting for Steve Huff's pics of the Rx10 tomorrow hopefully. This guy always bring out the best real world test images.
I'm waiting also. He indicated pretty soon.
dgmessenger: Proves mobile phones are great for Instagram! I think we already knew that. More impotantly, it proves it's not the arrow but the Indian (pc: indigenous north american hominid). His photos would look hardly different if using another high end mobile phone camera. Cheers.
Proves mobile phones are great for Instagram! I think we already knew that. More impotantly, it proves it's not the arrow but the Indian (pc: indigenous north american hominid). His photos would look hardly different if using another high end mobile phone camera. Cheers.
nathanleebush: This really highlights the larger problem: people with waaaaay too much money to spend who actually pay insane prices BECAUSE of a higher sticker and attendant 'prestige.' Tax the rich to hell if they are so bored with their wealth they make decisions akin to lighting their cigarettes with Benjamins. And to think, the people who put this together make a few dollars a day. Is this camera not really a cartoonish indictment of the neo-feudalist system (AKA "free market meritocracy") that is globalization?
Sounds like someone spilled their latte on their skinny jeans and is all upset.
Me thinks the the taxing government has waaaay too much money and actually spends it on insane and dubious social experiments.
Instead of Obama phones, they would distribute Obama Lunar cameras.
If you believe the government (USA) doesn't have too much money already, then I think I see a much "larger problem" with your argument.
ngollan: Repeat after me: an LCD can never be a viable alternative to an OVF, no matter how bad, in bright daylight.
Unless it's a transflective display, and I don't see anyone using those anymore.
R.I.P., usability, you are sorely missed.
Agreed. IMO, @ngollan, seems to be stating an edge case. Even in that edge case of bright sunlight, the articulating displaying can be manipulated to mitigate. Why give up size to accommodate this edge case?
justmeMN: My speculation is that Canon removed the articulated screen, for the sake of product differentiation.
If you want an articulated screen, Canon wants you to buy a (more expensive) G1 X.
Agree. However, to howardroark's point, G1 X does not have macro (the reason I returned it - couldn't do the type of food photography I wanted).
nathanleebush: I think Canon gets that this is a dying product category. Why buy small sensor compacts when engineering teams are putting much larger sensors in smaller bodies (RX100) and smartphone manufacturers are wrestling sensors approaching the same size into their products.
So Canon is phoning it in.. slightly updating specs (while actually removing features) and knowing the name will carry. I see so many clueless people at art openings and fashion shows with these things, blissfully unaware that they could get vastly more features for the same money, but their friends told them to buy this, and it "just takes amazing pictures" if you ask them.
That settles it. "Four" people in "your circle" want iPhone5s. Argument is over. Apple wins. Let's move on now and stay on topic.
dgmessenger: Owned this phone all but of one day. Sent it back. The pictures are simply astounding for a device this size! However, I hated using this phone! The UI was slow and clumsy. The low screen rez was also disheartening.
I'm completely baffled why Nokia didn't build this phone around Android! The mimic attempt was just unworkable! I guess, just too many cost to consider.
The screen rez is crappy compared to the standard of phones in this cost range. Sorry if those facts confuse you. That cheesy Android like knockoff they had running on this phone was clumsy and slow!! I owned the phone! Have you? I'm sure you haven't. Go troll somewhere else.
Owned this phone all but of one day. Sent it back. The pictures are simply astounding for a device this size! However, I hated using this phone! The UI was slow and clumsy. The low screen rez was also disheartening.
tiberiousgracchus: Looks Grand !
looks 4Grand! What's up with the USB 2.0?? It's 2012.
Jeff Peterman: Anyone know of anything similar for Android? So far, I'm not impressed with any of the camera Apps I've tried on my Galaxy SII.
The main reason I also own an iPhone 4s (work issued - they gave me a choice and I chose iPhone) with my Android Galaxy Nexus (personal), is the iPhone 4s camera and iOS camera apps. Android really sucks pickles on camera apps! And the android camera phones are really sucky also. In good light, the cameras are competitive with iPhone 4s. However, in low light, the iPhone back illuminated CMOS sensor eats their lunch!! That's coming from an Android fan boy!! I'm hoping Android phone makers change this soon!
Dear @Rick Knepper: A sensor of this size for this category of camera is indeed considered "LARGE". Chill dude.
arboreus: A few pictures speak more than a thousand words.
I think it's quite intentional by Engadget!
wutsurstyle: If dpr insists on these articles of smartphones with "cameras" then we might as well feature video cams that take hd stills, binoculars that take photos, spy pens, trophy cam trail cameras, and everything else out there with a photo lens.
Cameras on these high-end phones are better/compete with many of the early digital cameras reviewed on this sight. So, I say good for dpr for including this category. At some point, you will not have standalone point&shoots, as they will be replaced by superior/comparable phone cameras.