sunhorse: I am not sure I will send mine in. Dust/oil is manageable right now and the camera is otherwise fine. Do I risk sending my D600 to Nikon service's (not) so tender loving care?
I have to say though that I love the faux outrage from people who don't own any Nikon gear ;)
It sounds more like he's questioning the motives behind some of the condemnation; with ethical concerns rather being of secondary concern to the anti-Nikon sentiment demanded of competing fanboys.
I'm sure you knew what he meant though, since the same sort of behavior is prevalent in every corner of this site and you are unlikely to have missed it.
RichRMA: Nikon and Canon epitomize the camera Jurassic era. Evolve before extinction.
Not really the best analogy. The Jurrasic lasted over 50 million years and was followed by the Cretaceous, which lasted another 80 million, if memory serves. There was no mass extinction seperating the two. The end of the dinosaurs was brought about by cataclysm. Had that not occurred, we never would have stood a chance regardless of our current arrogance.
Michael Ma: I almost bought a wide teleconverter for my fixed lens camera decade ago before I got my first DSLR a few years later. I am still glad to this day that I didn't make the purchase even though I had an itch to buy it for months.
In theory, it'll never perform as well as a descent prime lens on a ILC/DSLR but it's priced like one. When the X100S is replaced with it's successor in a short few years, you'll just be left with heavy glass with no compatibility with anything to be released in the future and no resale value. It will be in the box labeled "what was I thinking".
That's actually a really good point and something I forgot about doing myself. Well over a decade ago I had a wide angle converter I purchased for an Olympus c2100 which I shot besides my film slrs at the time. The zoom on the camera was only a 38mm equivalent so I wanted something wider. The quality wasn't bad, but I rarely ever used it because it was such a pain for me screwing and unscrewing it. Today I haven't a clue where that converter is (probably packed in a box and forgotten somewhere), while I still have and use some of my slr lenses which actually predate it.
Some may not mind or even perceive the inconvenience, but for me it was not the right choice. Additionally, for me, it's wiser to buy into a system that I trust to be around for years to come. I don't have the confidence fuji will still be making compatible cameras several years down the line, though I certainly hope so.
Ricardo Maia: That's a great option. You can get both the 28mm and 50mm converters for less than a single 50mm lens, ending up with a high quality f2.0 equivalent prime lens paired with a very nice body.
What 50 f/1.8 lens costs you even $300, let alone the $600+ that you claim? I wasn't able to find any in a quick search on Amazon. Actually you could buy a Canon 28 f/1.8 and a 50 f/1.8 for combined total just shy of $550.
MarshallG: What's with all the complaining? This camera is intended to be Canon's highest volume DSLR. They will stock these at every Wal-Mart, Costco and Target store. This model is intended to compete on a store shelf where price is king. Canon needs to cost down these consumer electronics models annually. That's just the business of entry-level cameras; no point in complaining that it doesn't meet the needs of the serious amateur or pro.
Hey Gully, your real name wouldn't happen to Shia, would it?
xentar: That does not look ergonomic at all...
... and now put your index finger on the shutter release button and press the focus button. I can't find a way to simulate it that makes that remotely comfortable. It seems to be an ergonomic nightmare. I guess I'd have to have one in my hand to see if it's better than I imagine, unfortunately I doubt I'll ever see one in the real world to give me that opportunity.
paulski66: I've had my d600 for over a year now and cleaned the sensor exactly once. Absolutely brilliant camera; I don't regret my decision to purchase it one iota.
Yes, I understand the some people have had issues, and Nikon should have addressed these in a more forthright manner. But I also think the whole thing has been somewhat overblown, and that there are many, many more happy d600 owners than unhappy ones...though as always the unhappy owners are the most vocal.
Actually Rich, it seems those who don't own, and never have owned the equipment are the most vocal opponents.
Gesture: Great idea, but build looks like every other contemporary lens. No lens should cost $1,000.
If you don't buy it, it won't cost you a dime. ;)
Tapper123: We need a longer focal length macro for greater working distance. Canon has the excellent 100mm f.28 L with IS and weather seals (150mm equiv on APS-C). Olympus has the 60mm f2.8 weather sealed (which is 120mm equiv on M4/3). Would like to see a lens like those for Fuji X system as well.
I'd like Sigma to make their 150 macro for fuji, or even a smaller 180 macro. Having a lens like that available would make the x mount far more tempting to me than it already is.
Ben Ramsey: That's amazing! Only 85 grams!
I swear that said 85 grams when I first saw it. By the time I posted, it was already fixed. Perhaps my cognizance is diminishing faster than I thought. ;)
Already fixed. :)
That's amazing! Only 85 grams!
SteveCooper: Nikon cannot be held accountable for not making sure third party equipment is compatible with Nikon's improvements or firmware updates. It is bad enough that Nikon gets blamed or even pays for a repair when the problem may have been caused by using a third party device in the first place. Everyone knows all batteries are not created equal. With a material like lithium, it is imperative that Nikon is able to make the camera and it's software or firmware work within their tolerances and specs. If you use a fly by night battery that came from a factory that did a single run of cheap batteries, and the battery characteristics are not within Nikon engineered tolerances, it could not only cause the camera to malfunction, it could cause a fire in either the camera or the charger you place the battery in. That third party company doesn't care what happens to you, your camera or your warranty- their stuff is cheap for a reason- no warranty and they don't have a reputation to maintain.
Eleson, It's hardly a hoax. Perhaps you've heard about the recall of Sony manufactured Li-on laptop batteries of not too many years ago. The batteries were used by Apple, Dell and Toshiba among others and were indeed overheating and causing damage and fires. You can do a google image search if you like.
And that was Sony made batteries, not a cheap battery produced with questionable manufacturing. Imagine the outrage that would occur when preventable damage took place to thousands of dollars/euro/pounds, etc. takes place. People would be up in arms about why Nikon or whomever allowed the batteries to be used.
I am uncertain as to the scope of the problem and what batteries are affected, though from various reports, it doesn't seem to be all 3rd party batteries. I'm not defending the choice Nikon (and it seems Canon) made, nor do I outright condemn it. As a disclaimer, I don't own any Nikon gear, excepting a pair of binoculars, so don't really have a horse in this race. Of course, I don't think most of the people who have been on an anti-Nikon and Canon tear lately, have ever used any of their gear either. It looks like attacking others to make one's self appear better. I don't accuse you of that, since I only know you from this one post and you most likely don't fit that description.
Toshik: UPDATE: They've partially fixed it for new lenses:
35mm F1.4 DG HSM A012 NIKON17-70mm F2.8-4 DC MACRO OS HSM C013 NIKON30mm F1.4 DC HSM A013 NIKON18-35mm F1.8 DC HSM A013 NIKON120-300mm F2.8 DG OS HSM S013 NIKON
via firmware update through usb dock.
Still unknown how will they fix other lenses without sending them back to factory to upgrade firmware .But i heard recent rumors that they're planning to make usb dock compatible with older lenses with HSM motor.
Good news. There doubtlessly have been numerous sales sigma lost over the years due to potential compatibility issues. Sigma really seems to be sorting out those issues and producing some really excellent lenses lately. That's good for all uf us.
HBowman: Once again, NIKON fail us.
It's actually Sigma who has failed...
Koemans: Will this be it..? canon's new marketing strategy? Tons of features the more you pay for it..?
Nah, probaly not.. i guess they will release 20 more 'dumbed down' bodies compared to its competitors and ask hundreds of euros extra for the sake of product diversification.
Expect another body that has the same features as canon's bodies 6 years ago ( 3 fps.. d'oh) only slightly more megapixels (BRAND NEW SENSOR!) and some more marketing rubbish slangs like "Lightest camera ever!".. All this for exactly the same price back then since nothing ever changes at canon.
as a 7d user, its time to jump away from this sinking ship into sony's utopia.
" as a 7d user, its time to jump away from this sinking ship into sony's utopia."
I don't say this often, but.... lol
rwl408: It seems to be larger than SL1. Canon's response to A7/A7R?
Based on my degree in marketing that I don't have ;), I think it would be smart of Canon to respond to the a7s by highlighting their lenses. Only Nikon can compete with their lineup. After all, you sell the lower end equipment through lust for the high end.
Jeff Peterman: It could be that they just threw a cloth over an SL1 to take the shot as an illustration and it has nothing to do with the actual camera that will be announced. I would not put much importance on this image.
That's the brilliance of this campaign. We are speculating what's under the cloth, but the new product is in plain sight. It's a new Canon microfiber cleaning cloth in pure white. As pure as the driven snow for the crystal clean your lenses deserve.... and I guess your cameras too... ;)
BobYIL: Shame on Nikon, shame on Canon too, for insisting to ignore of what we really want and pushing on what they like us to buy.
Just what is it that "we really want"? We are all different and have varying needs and preferences, so please don't presume to speak for everyone as though we all agree with you. It's equally easy to say 'shame on Sony or Olympus for abandoning the ovf so many prefer'. Some will agree and some won't.
semorg: The tripod collar doesn't seem sturdy enough. It might be fine for some wildlife stuff, but not reliable for some landscape work
"You can tell all that from looking at one photo?"
I don't think anyone can say for sure without trying it, but looking at it, along with its specs is certainly cause to be a little suspicious.