Papi61: It probably cost Canon $1k to make, so they have lots of room to deflate the price. Personally, I wouldn't buy it if they sold it for $2k. And it's not because I'm a Nikon shooter, but because the Samsung NX1 is so much better at 4k filming.
ET2, are there any adapters for either Samsung or Panasonic which would allow full use of EOS lenses, with electrical contacts? I'm not aware of any, but would be very interested to learn of their development. I recall that some company (perhaps Fotodiox) showed a mock-up of an EOS - m43 adapter which would allow aperture control, but as far as I know it was never produced.
Neuroanatomist: as a pro i might stick to canon for a bit longer.but for average joe customers canon has nothing exciting to offer anymore.
samsung and sony cameras offer something new and great features only a mirrorless can offer.
nikon and canon are dinosaurs.
I have a difficult time believing you're a pro if you see Canon and Nikon as having nothing to offer that Samsung and Sony do not. That's not a slight against the big electronics companies, but your assment is way off.
Mirrorless Crusader: These photos look like they were taken by a 7-year-old.
That's something for you to aspire to then...
Archiver: I'm disappointed. I was expecting Team Doofus to write comments like, 'why is this news on DPReview/how come this lens is so expensive/who would buy anything like that/it's got nothing to do with me so I won't read about it'.
Calling the peanut gallery: your usual opportunity has arrived!
Just a couple posts above yours. :)
Wes Syposz: if those are winners, I hate to see the losers...
Yes, none of them hold a candle to your humming bird photo.
ThomasSwitzerland: Ken Rockwell has just published snapshots on the D750 with the 20mm f/1.8.
To me this represents outstanding journalistic quality in time and precision. Why cannot the so much larger <dpreview> deliver?
Did you really describe Ken Rockwell's site as "outstanding journalistic quality in time and precision"? Unless that was an astounding display of sarcasm, your opinions will never be respected again...
Donnie G: Nearly 1,400 rants and they just keep on coming. The whiners have proven again that they spend more time thinking, typing, and dreaming about Canon than they do about any other camera brand on the planet. No wonder the other camera companies can't make a dime. Canon Envy is such a powerful emotion that those people who are afflicted with it simply can't think of anything else. Good for Canon, bad for the competition. So lets keep those rants ah-coming folks. We have a good chance at breaking a DPR record before the week's out. Ok, who's next? :)
Donnie G said "This campaign was meant to make people aware of all of the businesses that make up Canon Corp."
I think this is exactly right. Even though Photokina just ended, many had their hopes high that there was to be some major announcement. Admittedly, I hoped as well, but I don't blame Canon for not fulfulling my dreams with a 5 layer dual-pixel 24x36mm sensored monster with enough dynamic range to shoot a dandelion against the setting sun and not have blown highlights or blocked up shadows. Really though, there was no reason to expect it. Again, Photokina just ended. No one will release anything very soon.
Canon is a big corporation with a lot more to offer than cameras. They should be expected to showcase what they have, even if it's things we don't care about. Most don't get up in arms when they see a ps4 advertisement or a panasonic microwave for sale. This marketing capaign was never directed at us and will probably be quite successful whether we like it or not. There's no betrayal. We weren't led astray by anything but our desires.
maxnimo: Ever since my Canon 50mm f1.4 failed catastrophically, I lost my taste for Canon. I would have bought the new EOS 7D Mark II, but instead I found Fuji, and I'm extremely pleased. The Fujinon kit zoom is actually better made and sharper than my Canon 50mm f1.4 was.
I used to like Canon, but it seems unlikely I'll ever go back to them. Kind of sad.
I understand your frustration and possibly bitterness, but the reality is that lenses fail sometimes, as do cameras. No manufacturer is immune to their product suffering an untimely demise. From your description, it sounds like the lens was out of warranty, which is a shame. I hope you never have a similar problem with any of your present or future equipment.
sceptical1: I am a Nikon shooter and I won't lie - I am very envious of this offering as well as the new 400mm lens. First, I prefer DX cameras for wildlife shooting. Unfortunately current DX (except this Canon) cameras are lacking in ways that many users want. There are really 3 big advantages to this offering.1. AF performance. For fast moving wildlife and birds in flight, you want the best possible AF and this Canon is state of the art.2. Low light performance. Much as I like cameras like the D7100, the low light performance does not measure up to professional standards. FX cameras like the Nikon D4s, Nikon 750/810, and Canon 1D series allow you too take pictures earlier in the morning and later in the evening. This Canon brings that type of performance to a DX camera.3. Fast performance. This camera shoots fast enough and has a big enough buffer to make sure you don't miss much. Personally, small buffer cameras don't bother me because of my style of shooting, but many will appreciate it.
Ednaz: Size and weight matter in a lot of ways. As much as I love my Nikon D800E bodies and Nikkor lenses, I can pack a three zoom, two prime, and two body m4/3 kit in the same space as one D800E and two zooms. I have my Fuji kit because it slots in nicely between the two options - better noise performance than the m4/3, but still light weight, quiet, and small compared to the DSLR kit. XPro1 and four fast primes in the space of a D800E and two zooms that cover the same focal length range, but the Fuji lenses are across the board wider aperture, for more light gathering. (I know f1.2 translates to something like f2 in DOF... but f1.2 in terms of light gathering is f1.2.)
I'd like a few more pixels so I'm not stressing an image so much when printing 20x30, and I'd like a more functionally good XP rangefinder, and an ultra wide prime would basically fill out my complete wish list for Fuji beyond what they have now. They're doing great stuff, and own a range of my work.
Your comparison is a bit skewed. For the same setup, you should try to compare equivalent-ish lenses. A d800 with a set of f/1.8 primes including the 20, 35, 50 and 85 weighs 75 ounces. That's a whopping 19 more than your x-pro 1. On top of that you seem to have neglected to mention the battery life, which I've always valued while hiking. According to cipa numbers nikon gets 900 per charge while the fuji gets 300. So if you need to take two nikon batteries, you'll need six for your fuji. The difference then becomes even smaller. Some would contend that swapping batteries on a hike is more troublesome than an extra pound. I've gone for several days long hikes before and overpacked once (I was carrying a lot for another hiker who needed the help), so I know how vital every ounce can be, but in the end, with equal systems, there really isn't much to be gained.
I hope you don't think I'm bashing fuji - I'm certainly not. I actually think they have the most interesting mirrorless system going. I am only questioning your numbers and hoping you relate better facts to you impressionable newbie friends.
cgarrard: Fujifilm on a roll.... a refreshing interview compared to some of the other company interviews especially ;).
*crickets chirping in the distance
Morpho Hunter: At last ... Sony releases a macro lens ... better late than never, I suppose...
Why did you move to Fuji? They still don't have 1:1 macro lens. It's fine if you don't need it, but to cite that as a reason seems odd to me. That's the biggest thing holding me back from buying into that system... followed closely by funds. A 90-100mm, or equivalent isn't reall long enough for me either.
nerd2: No 8fps, no 4K, no gps and over 2K price
Yep, I want one too. Though some of the other products are attractive, the d750 is the product I'm most likely to buy from this Photokina.
mpgxsvcd: If they had spent their time making a great mirrorless camera instead of making excuses they wouldn’t be in the position they are in now.
What positon is that exactly?
Serious Sam: i can almost see this thing getting a Gold Award now with the way DPR is covering it. In fact I dare DPR not give it a Gold Award. It is just like how Canon rob retailer of their best shelf space.
Do you double-dog dare them?
MichelBB: There is no way I will buy a camera without Wi-Fi in 2014.
I love that comment. I can just see the Canon engineers sitting around discussing this; 'This is our top priority, people. How can we ensure MichelBB does NOT buy this camera?"
After hours of brainstorming, discussion and deliberation comes the eureka moment, 'We"ll exclude in camera wifi!'
'Brilliant work, Yoshida!'
Dimitris Roubos: I love the enthusiastic tone you guys have whenever you are previewing a canon product. Your selection of joyful words and the numerous exclamation marks give me the feeling you are mostly advertising this product rather than previewing it.
In the meantime we are waiting for 2 centuries for a review on a product that has equally impressed the imaging world the a7s. Given the vast similarities with the rest of the a7 series it makes me wonder what really takes you so long as if it was an unsolved murder case.
Maybe you should use a Canon product - then you could be more joyful too. ;)
Le Frog: "Its depth-of-field and light capture costs (it's most directly comparable to a Full Frame 70-200mm F5.6)"
No, no, no, dear DPR, in a telephoto, deep DoF is never ever a cost, it is always a benefit! Who wants (and why would he want) shallow DoF@200mm? And whenever you can use the 35-100 wide open, while, with an APS or FF camera, you would have had to stop down the lens, to get sufficient DoF, there is no light capture cost either.
Please, please, please, do not encourage the trolling of the shallow DoF brigade. Pretty please with a cherry on top and plenty of whipped cream and chocolate fudge?
That's why no one ever buys one of those 70-200 f/2.8s for their ff cameras...
Cal22: The LX100 aims at people who want an all-in-one solution. And the camera has a lot to like. I like especially the full manual control with control dials on the top plate for your right hand and a ring at the lens' mount for your left. And the camera body is big enough to making it not fiddly.
What I don't like: The camera has no tilting rear screen and no tilting EVF either. How to shoot from ground level? And a bundled flash should come up with more options than a built-in flash can provide; whether Panasonic will deliver in this respect, we may doubt until now.
The lens' zoom range is a little limited. Let's hope the image quality lives up to the name Leica!
Love the arrogance. 'You don't need that because I don't.' Certainly there's a way to accomplish almost anything and find a work-around, but honestly, tell us why we should find a way to work from ground level laying in the mud when a simple solution is just a swiveling screen away. Yes, I and probably others do shoot that way.
It's not just a matter of learning how to do it your way or the way others do it. Most likely we all already know that. Some like to try to find a better way.